fanatical

Sprgtime wrote:
Sprgtime wrote:
"Mark McArthey" wrote in message

It's too difficult to lose weight because of his family? Are they
intentionally accelerating his decrepitude and ultimate demise due
to
CHD? He can't afford a can of mackerel or a dozen eggs a day?

We've argued about this point ourselves, believe me. The truth is
that
eating low carb IS more expensive than what they currently eat
(mostly
pasta/white flour/sugar/margarine). Plus then he'd have to buy and
prepare
vegetables, and be the only person in the house to eat them. When he
works
50 hours a week, as is the usual case, he doesn't want to spend what
little
time he has at home with his kids preparing food for himself. He'd
love to
get his wife on board (she's heavier than he is, and constantly
complaining
about how she can't lose weight) but she won't budge. She's very
into
low-fat, and is a picky eater.

Ultimately he will probably not fulfill his desire to spend more time
with his family because they will "kill him with kindness (ignorance)."

$0.89 - one dozen eggs - 930 KCal, 75 g protein, 64 g fat - prep time
10 min.
$0.99 - one can of mackerel - 560 KCal, 84 g protein, 22 g fat - prep
time 30 seconds
$1.88 - All the protein and fat a big boy needs per day in a PSMF
regime assuming he needs 0.7 g protein/pound LBM. He may need less.

If he can't afford this austere menu, then the USDA Food Stamp Program
may help him.
http://www.fns.usda.gov/fsp/applican...ts/10steps.htm

Rod & Betty Jo wrote:
||
|| It is not a question of having something to eat but rather
|| those few whom make lots of noise about what they won't eat
|| (acknowledged pet peeve).... My non diet Easter dinner for 12
|| included a slow roasted(20hr) apple juice/maple glazed ham,
|| homemade sourdough bread, herb roasted potatoes, asparagus,
|| large mixed green salad, humus, mixed bean salad, taboui,
|| mashed sweet potatoes, roasted carrots, peas with pearl
|| onions with fried eggs for desert (baked meringue rounds with
|| lemon curd filling)...not a nitpicker in the group. Soggy

Can I have an invite for next year? :-) BJ

"Rod & Betty Jo" wrote in message
...
My non diet Easter dinner for 12 included a slow roasted(20hr) apple
juice/maple glazed ham

Was that a fresh ham? I've wanted to try one since I saw it on Good Eats a
while back.

Mark

"warehouse" wrote in message
oups.com...
$0.89 - one dozen eggs - 930 KCal, 75 g protein, 64 g fat - prep time
10 min.
$0.99 - one can of mackerel - 560 KCal, 84 g protein, 22 g fat - prep
time 30 seconds

I think you just devised my new diet.

I'll have to look around for the mackerel. I don't recall having ever seen
this in the stores. Would it be near the canned tuna (which I'm tired of).

Mark

On Wed, 30 Mar 2005 14:22:41 GMT, Mark McArthey wrote:

"warehouse" wrote in message
oups.com...
$0.89 - one dozen eggs - 930 KCal, 75 g protein, 64 g fat - prep time
10 min.
$0.99 - one can of mackerel - 560 KCal, 84 g protein, 22 g fat - prep
time 30 seconds

I think you just devised my new diet.

I'll have to look around for the mackerel. I don't recall having ever
seen
this in the stores. Would it be near the canned tuna (which I'm tired
of).

Mark



But these aren't really comparable. I bake my eggs to make them hard.
This takes a while, but I can get 4 meals from a dozen eggs. One can of
makerel is basically one meal. Eggs, in this regard, are cheaper.

--
Bob in CT

"Bob M" wrote in message
news
But these aren't really comparable. I bake my eggs to make them hard.
This takes a while, but I can get 4 meals from a dozen eggs. One can of
makerel is basically one meal. Eggs, in this regard, are cheaper.

Bake them? I've never heard of this. How does it differ from hard boiled?
Mark

Bob M wrote:
On Wed, 30 Mar 2005 14:22:41 GMT, Mark McArthey
wrote:

"warehouse" wrote in message
oups.com...
$0.89 - one dozen eggs - 930 KCal, 75 g protein, 64 g fat - prep
time
10 min.
$0.99 - one can of mackerel - 560 KCal, 84 g protein, 22 g fat -
prep
time 30 seconds

I think you just devised my new diet.

I'll have to look around for the mackerel. I don't recall having
ever
seen
this in the stores. Would it be near the canned tuna (which I'm
tired
of).

Mark



But these aren't really comparable. I bake my eggs to make them
hard.
This takes a while, but I can get 4 meals from a dozen eggs. One can
of
makerel is basically one meal. Eggs, in this regard, are cheaper.

--
Bob in CT

The side benefit of the mackerel is to get a hefty dosage of omega-3
eicosanoids to balance out any omega-6 or transfats he may consume
without resorting to the expense of supplements.

"BJ in Texas" wrote in message
m...
Rod & Betty Jo wrote:
||
|| It is not a question of having something to eat but rather
|| those few whom make lots of noise about what they won't eat
|| (acknowledged pet peeve).... My non diet Easter dinner for 12
|| included a slow roasted(20hr) apple juice/maple glazed ham,
|| homemade sourdough bread, herb roasted potatoes, asparagus,
|| large mixed green salad, humus, mixed bean salad, taboui,
|| mashed sweet potatoes, roasted carrots, peas with pearl
|| onions with fried eggs for desert (baked meringue rounds with
|| lemon curd filling)...not a nitpicker in the group. Soggy

Can I have an invite for next year? :-) BJ


Sure.....dinner will be at 4pm...... Soggy

"Mark McArthey" wrote in message
...
"Rod & Betty Jo" wrote in message
...
My non diet Easter dinner for 12 included a slow roasted(20hr) apple
juice/maple glazed ham

Was that a fresh ham? I've wanted to try one since I saw it on Good Eats
a while back.

Mark


By fresh do you mean non cured? nope....I have dabbled with curing pork a
few times. made peameal bacon etc...I'd presently like to get some nitrate
cure, when I do I'll do a large picnic then smoke the thing in my smoker.

My Easter ham was just a generic cheap ham...I scored the skin
criss-crossed, added 2 qts of cider, a cup or two of brown sugar ...cover
tightly and cooked at 200degrees for 12-16 hours, turn and/or baste a few
times...when tender but not quite falling completely off the bone(it is
supposed to look like a ham when done)......drain the now doubled liquid(you
have removed much salt and have both sweetened and concentrated the flavor
of ham)......drizzle ham with maple syrup real and/or imitation and roast
uncovered at 200-250degrees for 1-2hrs..... one year I added cloves, bad
idea since after 16hrs of cooking I didn't have a ham but rather a giant
clove, still edible but not to my liking, no cloves at all now but if I did
the last hour would work..... Incidentally Good Eats is the best....Soggy

Sprgtime wrote:
"Mark McArthey" wrote in message

It's too difficult to lose weight because of his family? Are they
intentionally accelerating his decrepitude and ultimate demise due
to
CHD? He can't afford a can of mackerel or a dozen eggs a day?

We've argued about this point ourselves, believe me. The truth is
that
eating low carb IS more expensive than what they currently eat
(mostly
pasta/white flour/sugar/margarine). Plus then he'd have to buy and
prepare
vegetables, and be the only person in the house to eat them. When he
works
50 hours a week, as is the usual case, he doesn't want to spend what
little
time he has at home with his kids preparing food for himself. He'd
love to
get his wife on board (she's heavier than he is, and constantly
complaining
about how she can't lose weight) but she won't budge. She's very
into
low-fat, and is a picky eater.

Ultimately he will probably not fulfill his desire to spend more time
with his family because they will "kill him with kindness (ignorance)."

$0.89 - one dozen eggs - 930 KCal, 75 g protein, 64 g fat - prep time
10 min.
$0.99 - one can of mackerel - 560 KCal, 84 g protein, 22 g fat - prep
time 30 seconds
$1.88 - All the protein and fat a big boy needs per day in a PSMF
regime assuming he needs 0.7 g protein/pound LBM. He may need less.

You missed what I said about vegetables.
Plus, I remember how it was for me the first week I was on low carb... I
felt like I was STARVING and ate a LOT of meat.