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Old March 29th, 2005, 03:16 PM
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Hey all,

I was wondering if anyone can tell me if there is such a thing as drinking
too much water a day? I know the recommendation is at least 64 oz, but can
you drink too much?

Just wondering...

Rob


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Old March 29th, 2005, 03:24 PM
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Rob wrote:
Hey all,

I was wondering if anyone can tell me if there is such a thing as

drinking
too much water a day? I know the recommendation is at least 64 oz,

but can
you drink too much?

Just wondering...

Rob


yes

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Old March 29th, 2005, 03:24 PM
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" was wondering if anyone can tell me if there is such a thing as
drinking
too much water a day? I know the recommendation is at least 64 oz, but
can
you drink too much? "


Yes, you can in fact kill yourself if you drink excessive water, though
it's pretty hard to do, as you'd really have to force yourself. Too
much causes brain swelling and electrolyte imbalances. There have been
documented cases of it occurring.

As for the 64 Oz recommendation, there was a news article last year on
that. Researchers went back and tried to find what it was based on,
studies, etc. They found zippo. It's just something passed down as
fact, without any real basis. For those on the early stages of a LC
diet, I think it is important to drink plenty of water to help flush
the fat breakdown byproducts out of the system. For the average
person, simply drinking when you feel like it or are thirsty should be
fine.

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Old March 29th, 2005, 06:20 PM
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The best advice I've seen wrt water amounts, is to drink enough such
that you have 5 or so "clear" urinations per day. Less water (thus
darker urine) means you're not fully hydrated, but more would be of
little benefit.
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Old March 29th, 2005, 08:28 PM
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Perdu wrote:
On 29 Mar 2005 06:24:34 -0800, "
said :


" was wondering if anyone can tell me if there is such a thing as
drinking
too much water a day? I know the recommendation is at least 64 oz, but
can
you drink too much? "


Yes, you can in fact kill yourself if you drink excessive water, though
it's pretty hard to do, as you'd really have to force yourself. Too
much causes brain swelling and electrolyte imbalances. There have been
documented cases of it occurring.

As for the 64 Oz recommendation, there was a news article last year on
that. Researchers went back and tried to find what it was based on,
studies, etc. They found zippo. It's just something passed down as
fact, without any real basis. For those on the early stages of a LC
diet, I think it is important to drink plenty of water to help flush
the fat breakdown byproducts out of the system. For the average
person, simply drinking when you feel like it or are thirsty should be
fine.



Well agreed. I had found no evidence of drinking a lot of water being in
any way helpful. Claims had been made you lose faster, and so on. I do
agree during induction to step it up. And when you are in a real hot place,
like Arizona during a heat wave, to load up on water beyond a bit perhaps
of what you feel you need.

But in general - I believe it to be hogwash. I think the rumor may have
been started by a bathroom attendant in Vegas. More tips.


I live in Las Vegas and can tell you it's not hogwash, especially to
those who aren't acclimated to the heat. I’ve seen plenty of people drop
at a taxi / shuttle bus stop out here. When I moved out here it took 3
or 4 months for my lips to stop cracking and my nose to stop bleeding
from being so dry. The low humidity and heat were sucking the moisture
out of me. Once I increased my intake everything got much better.

Health experts recommend that adults drink between six and eight 8-oz
glasses of water per day. These needs would increase in hot and dry
weather. Heat stroke and even death can result if as little as 10% of
the body fluids are lost and not replaced orally or intravenously.

My wife and I average 3) 5 gal bottles and 2-3) cases (16 ½ oz x 24
bottles) of water every month during the summer. Any local can tell you
they never go anywhere without a water bottle during the summer heat
unless you are just plain stupid.



http://www.thelatestmagazine.com/Art...ehydration.htm
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Old March 29th, 2005, 08:44 PM
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Perdu wrote:
On Tue, 29 Mar 2005 11:28:01 -0800, Bunky42 said :


I live in Las Vegas and can tell you it's not hogwash, especially to
those who aren't acclimated to the heat.



As I had mentioned, it is important in high heat areas. I had blacked out
once in 120 + heat in Phoenix, thinking I had hydrated myself enough. So I
remember that well. And I heed the warnings in the same type of conditions.

But on the average, people pumping water over and above, is hogwash. Like
a poster here said, if your urine is clear, you do ok, but if you are
consistently dark, then you need to "thin" it out by drinking more.

Perdu

Didn't some research group feed rats high volumes and it caused cancer?
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Old March 29th, 2005, 08:48 PM
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Bunky42 wrote:
Perdu wrote:

On Tue, 29 Mar 2005 11:28:01 -0800, Bunky42
said :


I live in Las Vegas and can tell you it's not hogwash, especially to
those who aren't acclimated to the heat.




As I had mentioned, it is important in high heat areas. I had blacked
out
once in 120 + heat in Phoenix, thinking I had hydrated myself enough.
So I
remember that well. And I heed the warnings in the same type of
conditions.

But on the average, people pumping water over and above, is hogwash.
Like
a poster here said, if your urine is clear, you do ok, but if you are
consistently dark, then you need to "thin" it out by drinking more.

Perdu


Didn't some research group feed rats high volumes and it caused cancer?



Never mind it was chlorinated tap water that caused cancer in rats
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Old March 29th, 2005, 09:56 PM
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wombn wrote:
On Tue, 29 Mar 2005 11:28:01 -0800, Bunky42
wrote:


http://www.thelatestmagazine.com/Art...ehydration.htm



interesting article.

I don't know what to think about the article. But I do know that living
out here in the desert I feel it if I let my intake decrease below the
8-10 glasses a day(approx.). I fall out of ketosis and get nasty
headaches too. As with everything it may just be the way my body reacts.
YMMV
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Old March 29th, 2005, 10:51 PM
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On Tue, 29 Mar 2005 16:52:25 -0500, Roger Zoul
wrote:

DJ Delorie wrote:
:: The best advice I've seen wrt water amounts, is to drink enough such
:: that you have 5 or so "clear" urinations per day. Less water (thus
:: darker urine) means you're not fully hydrated, but more would be of
:: little benefit.

I wonder what the basis of this argument is. I know it came from Lyle M,
but who says that the color of urine determines one's hydration level?



Especially if one does not take supplements. Or perhaps does.

--
Bob in CT
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Old March 29th, 2005, 10:52 PM
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DJ Delorie wrote:
:: The best advice I've seen wrt water amounts, is to drink enough such
:: that you have 5 or so "clear" urinations per day. Less water (thus
:: darker urine) means you're not fully hydrated, but more would be of
:: little benefit.

I wonder what the basis of this argument is. I know it came from Lyle M,
but who says that the color of urine determines one's hydration level?


 




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