wheat and dairy

why are wheat and dairy considered by some , (most) dieticans to be
considered bad food

mexican kitch@water wrote in message
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why are wheat and dairy considered by some , (most) dieticans to be
considered bad food

I think your initial premise is flawed. The dieticians involved in
creating the US food pyramid at least are enamored of wheat and dairy.

But there are some reasons why the two might be considered "bad" food.
Both wheat and dairy cause allergies and/or GI problems in a large
number of people. Wheat--as it is most typically consumed in the
USA--is nearly devoid of nutrients and quite similar to sugar. Having
been stripped of its fiber, most people find that wheat products are
not very filling and they tend to overeat. IMHO, this accounts for the
great success of lower-carb diets. But if you aren't allergic to wheat
gluten, whole wheat in moderation can be a part of a healthy diet.

Another big problem with dairy is that it tends to be high in
saturated fat. Diets high in saturated fats increase the risk of
hypertension, heart attack, and stroke. But if you aren't lactose
intolerent, low- and non-fat dairy products in moderation can be a
part of a healthy diet.

Matthew

mexican wrote:
why are wheat and dairy considered by some , (most) dieticans to be
considered bad food

one reason is that many people have allergies to these foods.
there are reasons in terms of nutrition, but they are easily avoidable.
full-fat dairy is generally considered 'bad' in large quantities; most
wheat products (like white bread) are not 'whole grain' and have little
nutritious value. but lowfat milk and whole-wheat (especially wheat
berries prepared in a traditional fashion) are generally considered a
regular part of a healthy diet, and even their counterparts (whole milk
and french baguette) can be included as long as they aren't 'abused.'

Ignoramus18353 wrote in message
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On Thu, 12 May 2005 07:48:05 -0600, Matthew
wrote:

mexican kitch@water wrote in message
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why are wheat and dairy considered by some , (most) dieticans to
be
considered bad food

I think your initial premise is flawed. The dieticians involved in
creating the US food pyramid at least are enamored of wheat and
dairy.

Another big problem with dairy is that it tends to be high in
saturated fat. Diets high in saturated fats increase the risk of
hypertension, heart attack, and stroke. But if you aren't lactose
intolerent, low- and non-fat dairy products in moderation can be a
part of a healthy diet.

Here's four studies that you may find interesting. One finds
saturated fat to be bad for cognitive abilities, another one finds
that intake of milk fat is NEGATIVELY associated with the risk of
myocardial infarction. The third study says that SF does increase
the
risk of heart attack, but that total fat intake does not affect the
risk of a heart attack. The fourth says that the alleged effect of
SF
is largely explained by confounding factors like fiber intake.

So, these three studies point us in rather different directions. I
personally eat relatively little dairy, which is high in SF, and eat
meat, which has more unsaturated fat than saturated.

Certainly there is more work for the researchers to do in this area
but from the available evidence, I think it is safe to conclude we
should avoid trans-fat (commercially-prepared baked and fried foods)
as much as possible, limit saturated fat (fatty red meats, poultry
skin, high-fat dairy, coconut), and get the majority of our fat from
unsaturated sources (fatty fish, nuts, and vegetable oils).

Matthew

On 12 May 2005 13:15:36 GMT, Ignoramus18353
wrote:

On Thu, 12 May 2005 15:29:53 +1000, mexican kitch@water wrote:
why are wheat and dairy considered by some , (most) dieticans to be
considered bad food

I do not think that they are considered bad food by most dieticians.

I don't think I've ever met a dietician with this belief (not that I
know many of them). Quite a few people have allergies to one or the
other of these, so of course a dietician would recommend that those
people avoid them, but I don't think most would give this advice to
other people.

Chris
262/130s/130s
started dieting July 2002, maintaining since June 2004

USA--is nearly devoid of nutrients and quite similar to sugar. Having
been stripped of its fiber,

How am I able to tell? What should I look for on the label?

455 wrote:
USA--is nearly devoid of nutrients and quite similar to sugar.
Having
been stripped of its fiber,

How am I able to tell? What should I look for on the label?

Before any type of flour listed in the ingredients, there should be the
word "whole." Whole wheat, whole oat, whole rye, etc. If it doesn't say
"whole," it's not good.

"455" wrote in message
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USA--is nearly devoid of nutrients and quite similar to sugar. Having
been stripped of its fiber,

How am I able to tell? What should I look for on the label?

It can be very confusing; best to shop with a nutritionist ;-)

See http://www.cspinet.org/nah/wwheat.html for some more info.

Matthew