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Old November 28th, 2003, 04:57 AM
Steven C \(Doktersteve\)
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Default Atkins and low carb = $$$ (long)

I went into a few stores during my days off, and I started looking to
purchase some low carb type foods to treat myself.

Don't get me wrong, I am currently on induction, and I don't have a problem
with all meat all the time (yes, yes, some veggies, but mostly meats), but I
still wanted to see what I could get to snack on.

I ended up getting some old Dutch pork rinds, which unfortunately I DO NOT
LIKE AT ALL, they are flavorless and sort of gross tasting (I don't really
eat pork), but I decided to try them, and for $2.79 Canadian for an 80g bag,
I WILL eat them.

But I digress.

As I was looking at various low carb items, I started to notice just how
expensive it would cost if you were to actually start to purchase these low
carb items.
Atkins advantage bars run anywhere from $2.79 to $3.99 (Canadian) for one
small 60g bar, and some of the other competitors are no better with a small
bag of jelly beans running $2.50, or 1 low carb peanut butter cup for $1.99.

As more and more people started to go low carb, you would think that these
sorts of items would start to come down in price. It doesn't seem to be
happening, even though the Atkins center as a business takes in over $100
000 000 a year.

It is even worse if you go into a GNC store, where the employees do not
specialize in low carb (however the store looks like it should be renamed
"The Atkins Store" from the front), and they will try and sell you things
you don't need.
The other day, after explaining I was on induction, the guy at GNC told me I
could mix psyllium husk with juice so it wouldn't taste so bad.
I looked at him and said "I cant have juice whatsoever, you know that
right?" to which he added "oh yea, I guess that's right".

it was sort of nuts. Seeing this newly formed market, as bread makers fear
low carb, but do nothing to make affordable low carb breads (I was always
allergic to bread, but never had major reactions, so I wont go back to bread
ever personally, I am using it as an example) although they could do that if
they wanted to.
In Canada there is a huge bread manufacturer called Dempsters, but they
don't bother to make low carb breads. They complain though about bread
sales.
I guess that making a low carb alternative would be like admitting they
could be selling potentially harmful products in white bread, etc.

Why do early adopters always get ripped off, so to speak.
Doesn't it seem unfair?

I think personally I will try my best to just skip Atkins branded stuff,
based on principle alone.
Just my opinion though, thanks for reading.


  #2  
Old November 28th, 2003, 05:13 AM
JC Der Koenig
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Default Atkins and low carb = $$$ (long)

Treat yourself to some sunflower seeds, almonds, pecans, or walnuts. Forget
about all that fake crap that comes from Atkins, Carbolite and others.

--
JC

Eat less, exercise more.

--
"Steven C (Doktersteve)" wrote in message
newsIzxb.58166$oN2.9714@edtnps84...
I went into a few stores during my days off, and I started looking to
purchase some low carb type foods to treat myself.

Don't get me wrong, I am currently on induction, and I don't have a

problem
with all meat all the time (yes, yes, some veggies, but mostly meats), but

I
still wanted to see what I could get to snack on.

I ended up getting some old Dutch pork rinds, which unfortunately I DO NOT
LIKE AT ALL, they are flavorless and sort of gross tasting (I don't really
eat pork), but I decided to try them, and for $2.79 Canadian for an 80g

bag,
I WILL eat them.

But I digress.

As I was looking at various low carb items, I started to notice just how
expensive it would cost if you were to actually start to purchase these

low
carb items.
Atkins advantage bars run anywhere from $2.79 to $3.99 (Canadian) for one
small 60g bar, and some of the other competitors are no better with a

small
bag of jelly beans running $2.50, or 1 low carb peanut butter cup for

$1.99.

As more and more people started to go low carb, you would think that these
sorts of items would start to come down in price. It doesn't seem to be
happening, even though the Atkins center as a business takes in over $100
000 000 a year.

It is even worse if you go into a GNC store, where the employees do not
specialize in low carb (however the store looks like it should be renamed
"The Atkins Store" from the front), and they will try and sell you things
you don't need.
The other day, after explaining I was on induction, the guy at GNC told me

I
could mix psyllium husk with juice so it wouldn't taste so bad.
I looked at him and said "I cant have juice whatsoever, you know that
right?" to which he added "oh yea, I guess that's right".

it was sort of nuts. Seeing this newly formed market, as bread makers fear
low carb, but do nothing to make affordable low carb breads (I was always
allergic to bread, but never had major reactions, so I wont go back to

bread
ever personally, I am using it as an example) although they could do that

if
they wanted to.
In Canada there is a huge bread manufacturer called Dempsters, but they
don't bother to make low carb breads. They complain though about bread
sales.
I guess that making a low carb alternative would be like admitting they
could be selling potentially harmful products in white bread, etc.

Why do early adopters always get ripped off, so to speak.
Doesn't it seem unfair?

I think personally I will try my best to just skip Atkins branded stuff,
based on principle alone.
Just my opinion though, thanks for reading.




  #3  
Old November 28th, 2003, 05:45 AM
Luna
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Default Atkins and low carb = $$$ (long)

Hell yeah. You don't need that stuff. Oh, and btw JC, I'm glad you took
the "fat ****" quotes off your sig. It's like you got a makeover and you
look nicer. I think that sig was alienating a lot of people who otherwise
probably would have given your advice more credence.

In article ,
"JC Der Koenig" wrote:

Treat yourself to some sunflower seeds, almonds, pecans, or walnuts. Forget
about all that fake crap that comes from Atkins, Carbolite and others.

--
JC

Eat less, exercise more.




--
-Michelle Levin (Luna)
http://www.mindspring.com/~lunachick
http://www.mindspring.com/~designbyluna


  #4  
Old November 28th, 2003, 05:49 AM
JC Der Koenig
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Default Atkins and low carb = $$$ (long)

It's not like I'm running for Governor.

--
JC

Eat less, exercise more.

--
"Luna" wrote in message
...
Hell yeah. You don't need that stuff. Oh, and btw JC, I'm glad you took
the "fat ****" quotes off your sig. It's like you got a makeover and you
look nicer. I think that sig was alienating a lot of people who otherwise
probably would have given your advice more credence.

In article ,
"JC Der Koenig" wrote:

Treat yourself to some sunflower seeds, almonds, pecans, or walnuts.

Forget
about all that fake crap that comes from Atkins, Carbolite and others.

--
JC

Eat less, exercise more.




--
-Michelle Levin (Luna)
http://www.mindspring.com/~lunachick
http://www.mindspring.com/~designbyluna




  #5  
Old November 28th, 2003, 06:26 AM
Jumping Bomb Angel
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Default Atkins and low carb = $$$ (long)

As I was looking at various low carb items, I started to notice just how
expensive it would cost if you were to actually start to purchase these

low
carb items.
Atkins advantage bars run anywhere from $2.79 to $3.99 (Canadian) for one
small 60g bar, and some of the other competitors are no better with a

small
bag of jelly beans running $2.50, or 1 low carb peanut butter cup for

$1.99.

As more and more people started to go low carb, you would think that these
sorts of items would start to come down in price. It doesn't seem to be
happening, even though the Atkins center as a business takes in over $100
000 000 a year.


I'm a struggling schoolteacher trying to make ends meet...I feel you; "diet"
products are a racket.

Instead of going for the low-carb bars and shakes and what not, the only
thing I ever get from that section of the grocery store is a cheap low-carb
protein shake mix. The rest of what I buy is fairly cheap...tuna fish,
chicken, eggs, nuts, cheese, olive oil...all still quite low-carb but not as
pricey!

JBA
(Still holding steady...34-26-38...even though my hips tend to fluctuate
this time of the month!)


  #6  
Old November 28th, 2003, 07:04 AM
Aramanth Dawe
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Default Atkins and low carb = $$$ (long)

On Fri, 28 Nov 2003 03:57:23 GMT, "Steven C \(Doktersteve\)"
wrote:

I went into a few stores during my days off, and I started looking to
purchase some low carb type foods to treat myself.

Don't get me wrong, I am currently on induction, and I don't have a problem
with all meat all the time (yes, yes, some veggies, but mostly meats), but I
still wanted to see what I could get to snack on.


Cheese, either raw or nuke small pieces (put them on some bakers
parchment first) until they turn crispy and golden-brown.

Nuts

Celery sticks stuffed with cream cheese, or peanut butter (or other
nut butters)

Sunflower seeds - buy them in the shell and you can take longer
(therefore eating fewer) to eat them as you open them one at a time

Pumpkin seeds as above

snip

Atkins advantage bars run anywhere from $2.79 to $3.99 (Canadian) for one
small 60g bar, and some of the other competitors are no better with a small
bag of jelly beans running $2.50, or 1 low carb peanut butter cup for $1.99.

As more and more people started to go low carb, you would think that these
sorts of items would start to come down in price. It doesn't seem to be
happening, even though the Atkins center as a business takes in over $100
000 000 a year.


It's really only recently that there's been a big enough groundswell
of people wanting to eat LC that it's been WORTH putting out much in
the way of candy or bars that are LC. Those of us who have been doing
it for a while (for me, it will be 5.5 years this Saturday, which also
happens to be my 40th birthday) can attest to this. When I started,
and I'm by no means the longest LCer out there, there was VERY little
choice in the way of pre-packaged allegedly LC 'snacks' - and none at
all here in Australia. You made your own or did without, and for the
most part if you DID make your own they were a kajillion times tastier
than the cardboard that gets marketed today.

Why do early adopters always get ripped off, so to speak.
Doesn't it seem unfair?


No. The earlier you get into something, the less likely it is that
pre-prepared 'help' is going to be around. Therefore, it's not
unreasonable from a business perspective that it's going to be
expensive when they do finally come on the market. Those in the LC
product industry are not doing it primarily as a service to LCers -
they're doing it to make a profit for themselves. The fact that it's
ALSO helpful to us is great, but the main reason is to make a profit.

I think personally I will try my best to just skip Atkins branded stuff,
based on principle alone.
Just my opinion though, thanks for reading.


I have bought ONE, and only one Atkins-branded item in my 5.5 years LC
- and that was the book. You don't need pre-packaged crap to eat in
a healthy LC way. Just real food, eaten at appropriate intervals is
enough.

Aramanth

  #7  
Old November 28th, 2003, 12:43 PM
c
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Why not? You already have your campaign slogan: "Vote for me, you ****!" :-)

Chris

"JC Der Koenig" wrote in message
igy.com...
It's not like I'm running for Governor.

--
JC

Eat less, exercise more.

--
"Luna" wrote in message
...
Hell yeah. You don't need that stuff. Oh, and btw JC, I'm glad you

took
the "fat ****" quotes off your sig. It's like you got a makeover and

you
look nicer. I think that sig was alienating a lot of people who

otherwise
probably would have given your advice more credence.

In article ,
"JC Der Koenig" wrote:

Treat yourself to some sunflower seeds, almonds, pecans, or walnuts.

Forget
about all that fake crap that comes from Atkins, Carbolite and others.

--
JC

Eat less, exercise more.




--
-Michelle Levin (Luna)
http://www.mindspring.com/~lunachick
http://www.mindspring.com/~designbyluna






  #8  
Old November 28th, 2003, 02:55 PM
JC Der Koenig
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Default Atkins and low carb = $$$ (long)

Because I don't want to take responsibility for a bunch of stupid ****s.
Well, outside of school that is... ;-)

--
JC

Eat less, exercise more.

--
"c" wrote in message
...
Why not? You already have your campaign slogan: "Vote for me, you ****!"

:-)

Chris

"JC Der Koenig" wrote in message
igy.com...
It's not like I'm running for Governor.

--
JC

Eat less, exercise more.

--
"Luna" wrote in message
...
Hell yeah. You don't need that stuff. Oh, and btw JC, I'm glad you

took
the "fat ****" quotes off your sig. It's like you got a makeover and

you
look nicer. I think that sig was alienating a lot of people who

otherwise
probably would have given your advice more credence.

In article ,
"JC Der Koenig" wrote:

Treat yourself to some sunflower seeds, almonds, pecans, or walnuts.

Forget
about all that fake crap that comes from Atkins, Carbolite and

others.

--
JC

Eat less, exercise more.




--
-Michelle Levin (Luna)
http://www.mindspring.com/~lunachick
http://www.mindspring.com/~designbyluna








  #9  
Old November 28th, 2003, 03:43 PM
Ariannah
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Default Atkins and low carb = $$$ (long)

"Steven C \(Doktersteve\)" wrote:
Why do early adopters always get ripped off, so to speak.
Doesn't it seem unfair?


It's easier when you just stick to real food. It costs so much less.
Not only is half of the "low carb" stuff I've tried incredibly icky to
choke down, it costs more than stuff that tastes absolutely heavenly.


  #10  
Old November 28th, 2003, 04:20 PM
Jenny
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Steven,

"Early adopters" did not get ripped off because there was almost no "low
carb" food in the marketplace, except for the bars (which most of us knew
could stall us.) But that was more than 5 years ago.

Back then we ate meat, cheese, low carb veggies and stuff we baked up at
home ourselves with whatever low carb ingredients we could come up with. We
generally ate a lot less than other people because hunger these foods tend
to be self-limiting.

The huge number of high calorie, chemical-filled "low carb" foods, many of
which have quite a few carbs that are available now are likely to undermine
the diets of many people who try what they mistakenly believe is "low
carbing."

-- Jenny

Cut the carbs to respond to my new email address!
New photo: http://www.geocities.com/jenny_the_bean/jennypics.htm
Weight: 168.5/137
Diabetes Type II diagnosed 8/1998 -
HBa1c 5.2 10/03
Low Carb 9/1998 - 8/2001 and 11/10/02 - Now

http://www.geocities.com/jenny_the_bean
How to calculate your need for protein * How much people really lose each
month * Water Weight Gain & Loss * The "Two Gram Cure" for Hunger Cravings
* Characteristics of Successful Dieters * Indispensible Low Carb Treats *
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"Steven C (Doktersteve)" wrote in message
newsIzxb.58166$oN2.9714@edtnps84...
I went into a few stores during my days off, and I started looking to
purchase some low carb type foods to treat myself.

Don't get me wrong, I am currently on induction, and I don't have a

problem
with all meat all the time (yes, yes, some veggies, but mostly meats), but

I
still wanted to see what I could get to snack on.

I ended up getting some old Dutch pork rinds, which unfortunately I DO NOT
LIKE AT ALL, they are flavorless and sort of gross tasting (I don't really
eat pork), but I decided to try them, and for $2.79 Canadian for an 80g

bag,
I WILL eat them.

But I digress.

As I was looking at various low carb items, I started to notice just how
expensive it would cost if you were to actually start to purchase these

low
carb items.
Atkins advantage bars run anywhere from $2.79 to $3.99 (Canadian) for one
small 60g bar, and some of the other competitors are no better with a

small
bag of jelly beans running $2.50, or 1 low carb peanut butter cup for

$1.99.

As more and more people started to go low carb, you would think that these
sorts of items would start to come down in price. It doesn't seem to be
happening, even though the Atkins center as a business takes in over $100
000 000 a year.

It is even worse if you go into a GNC store, where the employees do not
specialize in low carb (however the store looks like it should be renamed
"The Atkins Store" from the front), and they will try and sell you things
you don't need.
The other day, after explaining I was on induction, the guy at GNC told me

I
could mix psyllium husk with juice so it wouldn't taste so bad.
I looked at him and said "I cant have juice whatsoever, you know that
right?" to which he added "oh yea, I guess that's right".

it was sort of nuts. Seeing this newly formed market, as bread makers fear
low carb, but do nothing to make affordable low carb breads (I was always
allergic to bread, but never had major reactions, so I wont go back to

bread
ever personally, I am using it as an example) although they could do that

if
they wanted to.
In Canada there is a huge bread manufacturer called Dempsters, but they
don't bother to make low carb breads. They complain though about bread
sales.
I guess that making a low carb alternative would be like admitting they
could be selling potentially harmful products in white bread, etc.

Why do early adopters always get ripped off, so to speak.
Doesn't it seem unfair?

I think personally I will try my best to just skip Atkins branded stuff,
based on principle alone.
Just my opinion though, thanks for reading.






 




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