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I'm one of them people that needs to be told what to do and what exactly not to do on pretty much anything I do.
I need to follow a plan.. something I can print and follow to the T.. I have to follow rules or else I fail miserably. I need a list of to do's and don't do's so that I can be successful... Please help me... I have to lose 65 lbs and want to be at 130 by this time next year. (which is a realistic goal). But I have to be told, step by step, what to do. I need grocery lists and a designated work out plan formulated by someone other than me. I know, it sounds crazy.. but unless I have rules to follow I won't follow them... Can anyone out there my savior? My Knight or princess in shining armor? Help!!! |
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Cyn wrote: I'm one of them people that needs to be told what to do and what exactly not to do on pretty much anything I do. I need to follow a plan.. something I can print and follow to the T.. I have to follow rules or else I fail miserably. I need a list of to do's and don't do's so that I can be successful... Please help me... I have to lose 65 lbs and want to be at 130 by this time next year. (which is a realistic goal). But I have to be told, step by step, what to do. I need grocery lists and a designated work out plan formulated by someone other than me. I know, it sounds crazy.. but unless I have rules to follow I won't follow them... Can anyone out there my savior? My Knight or princess in shining armor? Help!!! First, knock off the helpless stuff. It won't do you any good in any part of your life. YOU ALONE have the power to decide what YOU put into your body. There are no knights, no one to save you, except yourself. So, start your reading and research. You could try a program like Weight Watchers but there's not a program in this entire planet who is going to baby you. Isn't your own life worth the effort? It is only when you decide that it is, will you lose weight and keep it off. Be an adult. Eat less, exercise more, say no to junk food. Use www.fitday.com to track your progress. Check out www.cookinglight.com as well. They have great recipes there. |
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gee... thanks!
"SFrunner" wrote in message ups.com... Cyn wrote: I'm one of them people that needs to be told what to do and what exactly not to do on pretty much anything I do. I need to follow a plan.. something I can print and follow to the T.. I have to follow rules or else I fail miserably. I need a list of to do's and don't do's so that I can be successful... Please help me... I have to lose 65 lbs and want to be at 130 by this time next year. (which is a realistic goal). But I have to be told, step by step, what to do. I need grocery lists and a designated work out plan formulated by someone other than me. I know, it sounds crazy.. but unless I have rules to follow I won't follow them... Can anyone out there my savior? My Knight or princess in shining armor? Help!!! First, knock off the helpless stuff. It won't do you any good in any part of your life. YOU ALONE have the power to decide what YOU put into your body. There are no knights, no one to save you, except yourself. So, start your reading and research. You could try a program like Weight Watchers but there's not a program in this entire planet who is going to baby you. Isn't your own life worth the effort? It is only when you decide that it is, will you lose weight and keep it off. Be an adult. Eat less, exercise more, say no to junk food. Use www.fitday.com to track your progress. Check out www.cookinglight.com as well. They have great recipes there. |
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Cyn wrote: gee... thanks! Well, do you want to lose weight or not? |
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SFrunner wrote: Cyn wrote: gee... thanks! Well, do you want to lose weight or not? Let me continue...there are lots of great people in here who have lots tons (literally) of weight. NOT ONE of them was babied or coddled. They worked their asses off (again, literally). You should follow their examples and their advice. They have lots of great advice. And, I admire them. I get up 5 mornings a week, regardless of rain, freezing temperatures and such and go run. Does anyone baby me? Hell no!!! Losing weight is hard freakin' work, it comes with the great rewards, but only for those who are willing to put the time and effort in. It's like life. It sounds like you've been spoiled your whole life. There is nothing in this world worthwhile that is NOT hard work. Perhaps it's about time you learn this. |
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"Cyn" wrote in message
. net... gee... thanks! Cyn, I don't post here anymore, but I saw this thread and felt really sympathetic. This is not a very supportive ng at all, at the moment. It has been quite different from time to time in the past, but at the moment this group is prone to name-calling, "tough love," and ignorant calorie-counting regardless of health considerations. My advice is to read this post and then run away :-) Here's a good link for general education about health and fitness for women: http://www.stumptuous.com/cms/index.php Click on the "eating" link to learn a lot about diet. But your post indicates you don't necessarily want to become a nutritional expert as much as you want to just lose the weight by next year. So . . . . The most idiot-proof, step-by-step, healthy diet I've seen lately is "The Abs Diet," http://www.amazon.com/Abs-Diet-Six-W...845265-9048012 The whole "abs" focus is a gimmick (which weakens the book, of course), but the overall health and nutrition stuff in the book is based on rock-solid research. It's written for men, by the editors of Men's Health Magazine, but the diet and exercise routine will work just as well for women, and it's really idiot-proof and healthy. It's not a fad diet, it's simple shopping lists, meal-planning lists, exercise explanations, and "cheat sheets" that anybody could happily and healthily and easily following for a lifetime. A similarly sensible, though less research-based book is "Fight Fat," by the editors of Prevention magazine. It was written for women. It's out of print, but you can get it for a penny plus shipping and handling from http://www.amazon.com/gp/offer-listi...e=UTF8&s=books . The bottom line diet on pages 35-36 is a lot like Weight Watchers, but the overall program focusses much more on a nutrionally balanced diet and it is not based on calorie-counting. It's not as "idiot-proof" as the "Abs Diet" program, and you'll eventually need to supplement the nutritional wisdom with info from a less simplistic resource like www.stumptuous.com (especially the stumptuous section on EFA's) but it's still quite simple and healthy for a beginner. Another good book is "Body for Life," by Bill Phillips, which you can probably get from the library. His program is idiot-proof, healthy, and comprehensive. My main quibble with this program is that it advocates exercising on an empty stomach. IMHO, that burns more muscle than fat. Also, the earlier editions of his book have some erroneous info about "supplements," so just ignore that chapter. If you go ahead and start the Abs Diet (that goofy name really annoys me, but it's a good program) and then start educating and motivating yourself with some of the other reading I've recommended, you *can* lose the weight you want without having to become a fitness expert, or go hungry, or do anything you wouldn't want to do for the rest of your long and healthy life. Don't be surprised if a ****storm ensues on this thread after my post. I won't post to this thread anymore. If you want to to e-mail me, feel free. Just take "bitemespammer." out of my e-mail addy. ep |
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Edna Pearl wrote: "Cyn" wrote in message . net... gee... thanks! Cyn, I don't post here anymore, but I saw this thread and felt really sympathetic. This is not a very supportive ng at all, at the moment. It has been quite different from time to time in the past, but at the moment this group is prone to name-calling, "tough love," and ignorant calorie-counting regardless of health considerations. My advice is to read this post and then run away :-) With all due respect, she doesn't want to do the work for herself. She wants someone to take her hand and coddle her. Is that how you lost weight? Are you going to hold her hand while she wallows in sself pity? I have more sympathy than you could ever imagine, believe me. But, when someone looks at the world as wanting someone to save them, do you honestly think that person will be successful at waight loss? Be honest about it. Reality is a harsh mistress, we should know that by adulthood. |
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Unfortunately, Cyn, there is no program that will cover every contingency in
your life. There are situations where you simply have to make decisions. Besides which, what you need is a better way of life for the rest of your life--not just until the weight is lost. A new way of eating. It sounds to me like you need support in your efforts--not necessarily a bite-by-bite plan to follow. Weight Watchers can provide you with all the support you need while you form the habits you need to lose weight and maintain that loss. That might be a good place for you to start. "Cyn" wrote in message . net... I'm one of them people that needs to be told what to do and what exactly not to do on pretty much anything I do. I need to follow a plan.. something I can print and follow to the T.. I have to follow rules or else I fail miserably. I need a list of to do's and don't do's so that I can be successful... Please help me... I have to lose 65 lbs and want to be at 130 by this time next year. (which is a realistic goal). But I have to be told, step by step, what to do. I need grocery lists and a designated work out plan formulated by someone other than me. I know, it sounds crazy.. but unless I have rules to follow I won't follow them... Can anyone out there my savior? My Knight or princess in shining armor? Help!!! |
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Hi, Edna. How are you doing these days? Are things working better for you?
Did you ever find a group you like? "Edna Pearl" wrote in message ... "Cyn" wrote in message . net... gee... thanks! Cyn, I don't post here anymore, but I saw this thread and felt really sympathetic. This is not a very supportive ng at all, at the moment. It has been quite different from time to time in the past, but at the moment this group is prone to name-calling, "tough love," and ignorant calorie-counting regardless of health considerations. My advice is to read this post and then run away :-) Here's a good link for general education about health and fitness for women: http://www.stumptuous.com/cms/index.php Click on the "eating" link to learn a lot about diet. But your post indicates you don't necessarily want to become a nutritional expert as much as you want to just lose the weight by next year. So . . . . The most idiot-proof, step-by-step, healthy diet I've seen lately is "The Abs Diet," http://www.amazon.com/Abs-Diet-Six-W...845265-9048012 The whole "abs" focus is a gimmick (which weakens the book, of course), but the overall health and nutrition stuff in the book is based on rock-solid research. It's written for men, by the editors of Men's Health Magazine, but the diet and exercise routine will work just as well for women, and it's really idiot-proof and healthy. It's not a fad diet, it's simple shopping lists, meal-planning lists, exercise explanations, and "cheat sheets" that anybody could happily and healthily and easily following for a lifetime. A similarly sensible, though less research-based book is "Fight Fat," by the editors of Prevention magazine. It was written for women. It's out of print, but you can get it for a penny plus shipping and handling from http://www.amazon.com/gp/offer-listi...e=UTF8&s=books . The bottom line diet on pages 35-36 is a lot like Weight Watchers, but the overall program focusses much more on a nutrionally balanced diet and it is not based on calorie-counting. It's not as "idiot-proof" as the "Abs Diet" program, and you'll eventually need to supplement the nutritional wisdom with info from a less simplistic resource like www.stumptuous.com (especially the stumptuous section on EFA's) but it's still quite simple and healthy for a beginner. Another good book is "Body for Life," by Bill Phillips, which you can probably get from the library. His program is idiot-proof, healthy, and comprehensive. My main quibble with this program is that it advocates exercising on an empty stomach. IMHO, that burns more muscle than fat. Also, the earlier editions of his book have some erroneous info about "supplements," so just ignore that chapter. If you go ahead and start the Abs Diet (that goofy name really annoys me, but it's a good program) and then start educating and motivating yourself with some of the other reading I've recommended, you *can* lose the weight you want without having to become a fitness expert, or go hungry, or do anything you wouldn't want to do for the rest of your long and healthy life. Don't be surprised if a ****storm ensues on this thread after my post. I won't post to this thread anymore. If you want to to e-mail me, feel free. Just take "bitemespammer." out of my e-mail addy. ep |
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"Cyn" wrote in message . net... gee... thanks! "SFrunner" wrote in message ups.com... Cyn wrote: I'm one of them people that needs to be told what to do and what exactly not to do on pretty much anything I do. I need to follow a plan.. something I can print and follow to the T.. I have to follow rules or else I fail miserably. I need a list of to do's and don't do's so that I can be successful... Please help me... I have to lose 65 lbs and want to be at 130 by this time next year. (which is a realistic goal). But I have to be told, step by step, what to do. I need grocery lists and a designated work out plan formulated by someone other than me. I know, it sounds crazy.. but unless I have rules to follow I won't follow them... Can anyone out there my savior? My Knight or princess in shining armor? Help!!! First, knock off the helpless stuff. It won't do you any good in any part of your life. YOU ALONE have the power to decide what YOU put into your body. There are no knights, no one to save you, except yourself. So, start your reading and research. You could try a program like Weight Watchers but there's not a program in this entire planet who is going to baby you. Isn't your own life worth the effort? It is only when you decide that it is, will you lose weight and keep it off. Be an adult. Eat less, exercise more, say no to junk food. Use www.fitday.com to track your progress. Check out www.cookinglight.com as well. They have great recipes there. The mayo clinic has some sample menus in their nutrition/diet section. Else there are a number of commercial establishments that will do exactly what you want. Or there are books and web pages with menus and eating plans. It would be better if you could take responsibility for yourself, but if that won't work .... Or you could take the plan that I have done in the past and some on the group seem to do and eat nearly the same thing in the same amount every day, at least for a couple of meals. del |
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