Atkins+Low Carb equals Death

ARDS stands for Acute Respiratory Distress Syndrome.



"Steve Randy Shilts Bayt" wrote in message
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Preface: To those who have commented on my occassional grammar
mistakes. This is part of my social crusades. Not an English or
College Term Paper. I am not being paid, I am not selling anything.
And I am far more concerned with saving lives, then checking grammar.





STEVE BAYT
(Parma/Brook Park, Ohio)


JOHN HOPKINS UNIVERSITY Complete Guide For Preventing and Reversing
Heart Disease copyright1993 by Peter O. Kwiterwovich Jr. MD starts
tonight's article on Atkins Related Death Syndrome(ARDS):

"In one-third of all cases the first sign of coronary heart disease is
sudden, unexpected death. The victims are completely unaware of the
blockages in their coronary arteries until it is too late."

Tonight's pre-Kathryn Morris typed article uses information from a
place most newbie researchers, via THE NET, have probably not visited.
It's called a Library where there are shelves of books not about
Epidemic Diets like Atkins but books by hospitals, universities,
health organizations which have little financial interest but instead
offer real information.

For those who have never been in a library there are things that are
like website addresses but are called Library call numbers which have
a code called THE DEWEY DECIMAL SYSTEM. The John Hopkins book's call
number is NF616.123. Those who have been brainwashed by Atkins
marketing or have a potential loved one doomed to have an Atkins
Related Heart Attack (ARHA) should spend an afternoon researching the
fatal consequences of following The Atkins Death Sentence.

Consumer Reports June 2002 page 30 foreshadows ARDS " For nearly 30
years, the nutrition establishment has denounced the diet promulgated
by Dr. Robert C. Atkins for it's unsound, high-fat, ultra low
carbohydrate regimen.

As recently as last year an expert panel of nutritionist convened by
the American Heart Association condemned it a ineffective and very
possibly a health hazard."

I don't really care about one-line brain dead responding to these
article, for when Atkins loved ones and their possible ARDS fatalities
go to doctors, those doctors will confirm everything in my articles.
I am more interested in the response of doctors in the real world-not
brain dead Internet responders.

The Mayo Clinics "The Ultimate guide to heart health by Bernard J.
Gersh second edition copyright 200 call number 616. 12 provide one of
dozens of quotes from library medical journal books.

Page 87: "Narrowing of the arteries are almost always caused by
genetics or because of eating a high fat diet with high cholesterol."

Page 93 warns potential ARDS fatalities "60 of heart attack victims
die within the first hour after the onset of symptoms." Investigations
reveal, page 94 "Indecision of whether to call 911 accounts for 62% of
all deaths. Transportation to ER 9%, 29% delays in hospitals."

It is vital that potential ARDSers' inform anyone they associate with,
that they are engaging in a certain fatal death style. For at events
where aerobic activity someone should have a cell phone to call 911
when the Atkins person has their inevitable heart attack. If the event
where an Atkins person is in a place where a paramedic will not be
able to arrive within the hour death frame, someone should be invited
to apply CPR.

It would also be advised that an Atkins person put on their drivers
license a notice to doctors they are on Atkins. For if the ARHA victim
survives, the standard length of hospitalization according to THE
CLEVELAND CLININC HEART BOOK c.2000 by Eric J. Topol MD call number
616.12 will be about 10 days. For stroke could occur if the hour death
frame was near an end. The ARHA could be in a coma or unconscious for
days and there will be no way for a doctor to know of the extreme
carbohydrate deficiency. Doctors will easily tell your 300 plus
cholesterol but carbs simply leave your body when not needed-due to
their high fiber content.

THE IDIOTS GUIDE TO TOTAL NUTRITION, Joy Bauer MS. RD, Chapter 2 tries
to explain that Carbohydrates don't turn into fat.

According the 2004 WORLD ALMANAC vital statistic section 920,000
people died in 2001 due to Coronary Arterial Disease (CAD) causes.
CLINIC page 88 lists the causes of CAD's " 50% High Blood Cholesterol,
40% Obesity, 25% Smoking, 20% High Blood Pressure and 60-80% Sedentary
Life Style."

Chapters 11 and 12 of HOPKINS explains how Atkins causes all of the
above conditions except smoking-which will kill you long before CAD or
ARHA. To highlight- Page 71 "Restricting your dietary fat may help
lower your blood pressure as well as blood cholesterol." Page 176
"Fiber in founding certain kinds of carbohydrates some fibers of this
type are water soluble and may help lower your blood cholesterol if
taken in conjunction with a low-saturated fat, low-cholesterol diet."

One could simplify the stats and claim ARDS already kills about
700,000 Americans annually. But, there wasn't an official AIDS death
toll statistic until 1985 when it was separated from other STD's. With
the recent mass marketing ARDS will probably get its own death
statistic- when articles start appearing in early 2005 about the
massive increase in CAD.

CLINIC page 247 and 29 have in bold big fonts "USE COMPLEX
CARBOHYDRATES FOR ENERGY. LIMIT DIETARY CHOLESTEROL."

All CLINIC, HOPKINS, MAYO, and UNDERSTANING OBESITY by Dr. Lance Levy
c.2000 Recommended by Nutrition Research Center part of Baylor College
Of Medicine call number 616.398 pages 114-116-along with shelves of
other books describe the hundreds of health benefits of a high complex
carbohydrate, low saturated fat and cholesterol diet.

Yet, for 35 years no-one other than those part of The Atkins Center
and those financially connected to Atkins have ever stated anything
but fatal consequences of Atkins. His own site and most products with
the Atkins scarlet A does not have the phrase "Consult your physician
before beginning this or any exercise program." Probably because the
American Medical Association and virtually all state medical license
boards have warned doctors about Atkins.

There is hope for anyone who doesn't want to die of ARDS. Those who
started about 5 months ago when the mass marketing haven't done any
permanent damage. For CAD takes about 2-4 years to reach a point of
Atkins Related Heart Attack Risk.

And CLINIC page 28 offers hope "Managing he amount and type of dietary
fat you eat is a key strategy in lowering blood cholesterol levels and
reducing CAD risks." Page 29 describes about reverse stenosis-where a
low fat diet; high carb diet can clear arteries (clogged by Atkins
death styles.)

THE MAYO CLINIC page 188 Chapter 9 offers hope also "Increase your
carbohydrate intake to 60% or more of your total calories by
emphasizing complex carbohydrates"


Being a vegetarian since August 7, 1977 my favorite quote obtained
from shelves of books describing the fatal consequences, supporting my
ARDS jargon came from MAYO CLINIC's page 96: "Vegetarian diets can be
lower in total fat, saturated fat and cholesterol which can lower the
risk of obesity, coronary heart disease, high blood pressure, diabetes
and some form of caner." THE PCRM probably will engrave that
somewhere.


For those who are on ATKINS who might have trouble walking to a
library, you can access health information at www.americanheart.org or
www.clevelandclinic.org/heartcenter Or for those who prefer human
contact call the Cleveland Clinic Preventive Cardiology Rehabilitation
Program at (216) 444-9353.

Loved ones of a possible ARHA sufferer should also find out what is in
store. THE MAYO CLINIC book has actual photos (of dead people) of
arteries clogged subjected to Atkins death style diets. Those Jil
Hennessy, Marg Helgenberger, William Peterson fans could use them as a
CJ, CSI warm-up.

Please call, contact or visit a library-ask for where the NF616
section is.

For Consumer Reports June 2002 page 26 et seq. claims the best way to
safely lose weight and improve health is by a local hospital or
university, WEIGHT WATCHERS or JENNY CRAIG by reducing fat and
calories, not even mentioning low carb.

Atkins people might also get psychological counseling for being able
to be brainwashed so easily by marketing. But, that is for my next
article tentatively set sometime between July 14 and July 15 at 8 p.m.

And it's almost time for Cold Case tonight going back to 1973 that
would have been about the time the first wave of Atkins Related Deaths
occurred. Maybe I'll cover my library research after Kathryn Morris
heads towards an Emmy and Atkins heads towards a potential tragedy
averted by USENET newsgroups.


Love Means Never Having To Say. You're Sorry.


STEVE BAYT

yawn, are you stupid. You don't get coronary problems from fat. You get
coronary problems from fat MIXED with sugar. Open a book and read instead of
regurgitating old information that the food pyramid and your grade school nurse
told you. Heart attacks have nothing to do with fat and everything to do with
sugar and IRON. Damn, people will believe anything they are told. Thank god I
am not one of those people. I too have had amazing help since I began low
carbing 2 years ago. I don't even get the flu.

On 12 Jul 2004 19:10:00 GMT, Ignoramus32482
wrote:

In article , PurrBabies wrote:

yawn, are you stupid. You don't get coronary problems from fat. You
get coronary problems from fat MIXED with sugar. Open a book and
read instead of regurgitating old information that the food pyramid
and your grade school nurse told you. Heart attacks have nothing to
do with fat and everything to do with sugar and IRON. Damn, people
will believe anything they are told. Thank god I am not one of those
people. I too have had amazing help since I began low carbing 2
years ago. I don't even get the flu.

I also have not had a single cold since I started dieting (lower carb,
but not as low).

i

And I have been exceptionally healthy on a low calorie diet. No
sample of one proves anything. Perhaps the most reasonable conclusion
is that people who focus on a healthy lifestyle are more likely to
avoid illness :-).

Chris
262/144/ (145-150)

On 12 Jul 2004 19:10:00 GMT, Ignoramus32482
wrote:

In article , PurrBabies wrote:

yawn, are you stupid. You don't get coronary problems from fat. You
get coronary problems from fat MIXED with sugar. Open a book and
read instead of regurgitating old information that the food pyramid
and your grade school nurse told you. Heart attacks have nothing to
do with fat and everything to do with sugar and IRON. Damn, people
will believe anything they are told. Thank god I am not one of those
people. I too have had amazing help since I began low carbing 2
years ago. I don't even get the flu.

I also have not had a single cold since I started dieting (lower carb,
but not as low).

i

And I have been exceptionally healthy on a low calorie diet. No
sample of one proves anything. Perhaps the most reasonable conclusion
is that people who focus on a healthy lifestyle are more likely to
avoid illness :-).

Chris
262/144/ (145-150)

(Steve Randy Shilts Bayt) wrote in message . com...
Preface: To those who have commented on my occassional grammar
mistakes.

Occasional my ass. They're in virtually every sentence.


This is part of my social crusades. Not an English or
College Term Paper. I am not being paid, I am not selling anything.

Good. You couldn't sell this crap if you wanted to.

And I am far more concerned with saving lives, then checking grammar.

It's not just the grammar that's your problem - it's your logic, or,
rather, lack of it. You seem to be IQ challenged.

On 12 Jul 2004 23:23:36 GMT, Ignoramus32482
wrote:

In article , Chris Braun wrote:
On 12 Jul 2004 19:10:00 GMT, Ignoramus32482
wrote:

In article , PurrBabies wrote:

yawn, are you stupid. You don't get coronary problems from fat. You
get coronary problems from fat MIXED with sugar. Open a book and
read instead of regurgitating old information that the food pyramid
and your grade school nurse told you. Heart attacks have nothing to
do with fat and everything to do with sugar and IRON. Damn, people
will believe anything they are told. Thank god I am not one of those
people. I too have had amazing help since I began low carbing 2
years ago. I don't even get the flu.

I also have not had a single cold since I started dieting (lower carb,
but not as low).

i

And I have been exceptionally healthy on a low calorie diet. No
sample of one proves anything. Perhaps the most reasonable conclusion
is that people who focus on a healthy lifestyle are more likely to
avoid illness :-).

I was not actually trying to make a point, just mentioned something
rather amusing to me. Amazing that I have not yet had a cold. I am not
really "low carbing", I eat at least 150 carbs per day.

I know -- but the OP was obviously trying to make a point.

Chris

Steve - I agree that the Atkin's diet has some associated health
concerns such as the hyperlipidemia you refer to. In addition the
protein causes an acidic condition in the body which promotes calcium
loss among other things. EVen if people survive the diet they usually
rebound and gain the weight back.

The use of complex carbohydrates in the diet in a balanced way (as in
the Zone diet) accomplishes the health benefits such as having a lower
fasting insulin level without the risks.

On 12 Jul 2004 20:33:55 -0700, Randy Smith, MD
wrote:

Steve - I agree that the Atkin's diet has some associated health
concerns such as the hyperlipidemia you refer to. In addition the
protein causes an acidic condition in the body which promotes calcium
loss among other things. EVen if people survive the diet they usually
rebound and gain the weight back.

The use of complex carbohydrates in the diet in a balanced way (as in
the Zone diet) accomplishes the health benefits such as having a lower
fasting insulin level without the risks.

What? You've apparently never read the Atkins book, have you? I've been
following Atkins now for almost two years, and I have a much lower fasting
glucose level, better triglycerides, higher HDL, and better TC/HDL ratio.
There is no evidence whatsoever that protein causes calcium loss. As per
the following link, here's some research (note that the owner of the link
owns all copyrights):

http://www.lowcarbresearch.org/lcr/r....asp?catid=204


Putting Meat on Our Bones (Press Release) Added on: 1/30/2004 Hits: 116
From the USDA Agricultural Research Service and the Journal of Nutrition,
2003: A team of researchers compared the effects of several weeks a
controlled high and low meat diets on calcium retention and bone mass in
15 healthy postmenopausal women for 8 weeks. They noted that while the
high meat intake group had higher renal acid secretion at the onset of the
diet, it fell signficantly with time. At the end of the study, the
researchers noted that there was no difference in bone mass or calcium
retention among the two groups. They concluded that high meat diets do not
reduce calcium retention or bone mass.


Controlled High Meat Diets Do Not Affect Calcium Retention or Indices of
Bone Status in Healthy Postmenopausal Women (Journal Abstract) Added on:
1/30/2004 Hits: 94
From the USDA Agricultural Research Service and the Journal of Nutrition,
2003: A team of researchers compared the effects of several weeks a
controlled high and low meat diets on calcium retention and bone mass in
15 healthy postmenopausal women for 8 weeks. They noted that while the
high meat intake group had higher renal acid secretion at the onset of the
diet, it fell signficantly with time. At the end of the study, the
researchers noted that there was no difference in bone mass or calcium
retention among the two groups. They concluded that high meat diets do not
reduce calcium retention or bone mass.


Protein Intake: Effects on Bone Mineral Density and the Rate of Bone Loss
in Elderly Women (Journal Abstract) Added on: 8/22/2003 Hits: 250
From Creighton University and the American Journal of Clinical Nutrition,
2003: A team of researchers from the Bone Metabolism Unit of the
Osteoporosis Research Center studied the relationship between protein
intake and the bone densities in postmenopausal elderly women for 3 years.
They found that bone mineral density was significantly higher among women
who scored in the highest quartiles of protein intake when they also took
in 480 mg/d of calcium.


Controlled High Meat Diets Do Not Affect Calcium Retention or Indices of
Bone Status in Healthy Postmenopausal Women (Journal Abstract) Added on:
8/22/2003 Hits: 147
From the USDA's Agricultural Research Service, the Grand Forks Human
Nutrition Research Center, and the Journal of Nutrition 2003: A team of
USDA researchers placed 15 healthy postmenopausal women on two diets for 8
weeks each. The first diet was high in meat (about 10.5 ounces per day)
and the second was much lower (1.5 ounces per day). Their calcium, sodium,
and caffiene intakes were controlled for the 16 weeks of the study. The
researchers found that the high meat diet did not increase urinary calcium
loss or affect indicators of bone metabolism, as is widely believed in
medical circles. The researchers concluded that calcium retention is not
reduced when eating a high protein diet from meat.


New Data on Dietary Protein and Bone (Press Release) Added on: 8/22/2003
Hits: 148
From the USDA's Agricultural Research Service and the Grand Forks Human
Nutrition Research Center, 2003: A team of USDA researchers placed 15
healthy postmenopausal women on two diets for 8 weeks each. The first diet
was high in meat (about 10.5 ounces per day) and the second was much lower
(1.5 ounces per day). Their calcium, sodium, and caffiene intakes were
controlled for the 16 weeks of the study. The researchers found that the
high meat diet did not increase urinary calcium loss or affect indicators
of bone metabolism, as is widely believed in medical circles. The
researchers concluded that calcium retention is not reduced when eating a
high protein diet from meat.


Study Analyzes Calcium, Protein and Healthy Bones (Magazine
Article) Added on: 9/24/2002 Hits: 408
From Tufts University and the USDA, 2002: This study found that increasing
protein intake had a favorable effect on bone density in elderly subjects
supplemented with calcium and vitamin D.


Protein Saves Bone in Elders (Magazine Article) Added on: 9/24/2002
Hits: 293
From Harvard University and the USDA, 2001: This team of researchers from
Harvard and other universities found that 70 to 90 year-old men and women
with the highest protein intakes lost significantly less bone over a
four-year period than those who consumed half as much or less. Animal
protein, as well as overall protein intake, was associated with preserving
bone. The study, known as the Framingham Osteoporosis Study, was conducted
at the USDA Human Nutrition Research Center.


Effect of Protein Intake on Bone Mineralization during Weight Loss: A
6-Month Trial (Journal Abstract) Added on: 7/16/2002 Hits: 317
From The Royal Veterinary and Agricultural University in Denmark and the
journal Obesity Research, 2002: These researchers studied two groups with
the same dietary fat intake but with varying degrees of protein intake.
One group was placed on a low protein diet while the second group was
placed on a high protein diet for 6 months. The group on the high protein
diet lost more weight than did the low protein dieters. While the
researchers found that the bone mineralization content decreased in both
groups, they found that the loss was greater in the low protein group than
in the high protein group. They concluded that body fat loss was the major
reason for the loss and state, "...we found no adverse effects of 6 months
of high-protein intake on bone mineralization."


Bone Mineral Density and Dietary Patterns in Older Adults: The Framingham
Osteoporosis Study (Journal Abstract) Added on: 7/11/2002 Hits: 313
From Harvard University and The American Journal of Clinical Nutrition,
2002: This group of researchers, including professors from Harvard,
reported their findings from the long-term Framingham Osteoporosis Study.
In this article, they report that the higher the candy intake, the lower
the bone density in women and men.


Effect of Dietary Protein on Bone Loss in Elderly Men and Women: The
Framingham Osteoporosis Study (Journal Abstract) Added on: 7/11/2002
Hits: 319
From Harvard University and the Journal of Bone and Mineral Research,
2001: This team of researchers from Harvard and other universities found
that 70 to 90 year-old men and women with the highest protein intakes lost
significantly less bone over a four-year period than those who consumed
half as much or less. Animal protein, as well as overall protein intake,
was associated with preserving bone. The study, known as the Framingham
Osteoporosis Study, was conducted at the USDA Human Nutrition Research
Center. (This link goes to the home page of the journal. Click on the
picture of the current journal. Select the year 2000 and the month of
December. Scroll down to page 2504 and click on the abstract button for
the article.)


Calcium Intake Influences The Association of Protein Intake With Rates of
Bone Loss in Elderly Men and Women (Journal Abstract) Added on: 7/10/2002
Hits: 251
From Tufts University and The American Journal of Clinical Nutrition,
2002: This study found that increasing protein intake had a favorable
effect on bone density in elderly subjects supplemented with calcium and
vitamin D.


Factors Associated With Calcium Absorption Efficiency in Pre- and
Perimenopausal Women (Journal Abstract) Added on: 7/10/2002 Hits: 282
From The University of Pittsburgh and the American Journal of Clinical
Nutrition, 2000: These researchers found that dietary fat intake had a
positive affect on the rate of calcium absorption in pre-menopausal and
perimenopausal women.


Purdue Research Shows Omega 3s Benefit Bones (Press Release) Added on:
7/9/2002 Hits: 285
From Purdue University News, 1997: Past research showed that eating more
omega-3 fatty acids could decrease coronary heart disease risk and might
decrease chances of getting certain cancers, but this research is the
first to suggest that omega-3s improve bone growth. The researchers stress
that everyone, especially young children should eat a variety of fats to
protect bone growth.

--
Bob in CT
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Randy Smith, MD wrote:
:: Steve - I agree that the Atkin's diet has some associated health
:: concerns such as the hyperlipidemia you refer to. In addition the
:: protein causes an acidic condition in the body which promotes calcium
:: loss among other things. EVen if people survive the diet they
:: usually rebound and gain the weight back.

What a statement. You should run and hide now.

::
:: The use of complex carbohydrates in the diet in a balanced way (as in
:: the Zone diet) accomplishes the health benefits such as having a
:: lower fasting insulin level without the risks.

Nonsense, complete and utter.

"Roger Zoul" wrote in news:2liadiFcuek8U1@uni-
berlin.de:

Randy Smith, MD wrote:
:: Steve - I agree that the Atkin's diet has some associated health
:: concerns such as the hyperlipidemia you refer to. In addition the
:: protein causes an acidic condition in the body which promotes calcium
:: loss among other things. EVen if people survive the diet they
:: usually rebound and gain the weight back.

What a statement. You should run and hide now.

::
:: The use of complex carbohydrates in the diet in a balanced way (as in
:: the Zone diet) accomplishes the health benefits such as having a
:: lower fasting insulin level without the risks.

Nonsense, complete and utter.



Cites please!

r


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