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Old May 13th, 2006, 02:38 PM posted to alt.support.diet.low-carb
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Default Question on Branched Chain Amino Acids and Atkins

I have a question - and I have no idea about the effect of amino acids on
weight loss during atkins, hence my reason for asking my intellectual
betters.

Would taking BCAA's (Branched Chain Amino Acids) supplements (apparently a
combination of Leucine, Isoleucine and Valine) be a good idea on Atkins.

Apparently it helps prevent muscle loss and is touted as helping with fat
loss over muscle loss (could be a load of crap though).

I realise I probably already get some of the benefits of this type of amino
acid from eggs etc. but was wondering if supplementing on it would have any
adverse effects and perhaps interfere with ketosis perhaps, or actually
promote it.

Anyone who can offer any insight I'd appreciate it.

Cheers

John


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Old May 13th, 2006, 03:11 PM posted to alt.support.diet.low-carb
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The amino acid L-Glutamine helps reduce carb cravings for some folks, but
the dosage needs to be large.

I'm not familiar with the biology of your BCAAs, so I don't know. My
feeling is that eggs are a great source of fat and protein.


"Nugget heads revenge" wrote in message
...
I have a question - and I have no idea about the effect of amino acids on
weight loss during atkins, hence my reason for asking my intellectual
betters.

Would taking BCAA's (Branched Chain Amino Acids) supplements (apparently a
combination of Leucine, Isoleucine and Valine) be a good idea on Atkins.

Apparently it helps prevent muscle loss and is touted as helping with fat
loss over muscle loss (could be a load of crap though).

I realise I probably already get some of the benefits of this type of

amino
acid from eggs etc. but was wondering if supplementing on it would have

any
adverse effects and perhaps interfere with ketosis perhaps, or actually
promote it.

Anyone who can offer any insight I'd appreciate it.

Cheers

John




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Old May 13th, 2006, 04:03 PM posted to alt.support.diet.low-carb
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IMO, supplements are mostly a "blind faith" kind of thing. I've used many
and it's an extremely rare situation where I can honestly claim I noted any
benefit whatsoever. That doesn't mean there aren't any, and IMO that's
where the blind faith comes in. The bottom line is if you can afford them,
feel good about taking them, then go for it. You can find "science" that
supports your position, so it's not as if you're stupid for doing so.

If you're really concerned about muscle loss while LC dieting, start lifting
weights. Nothing will work for you better than that. The boost in
metabolism will assist with fat burning and the demands placed on your
muscles will send a strong message body that they are needed. A LC diet
adequate in protein and beneficial fats along with appropriate exercise is
the best protection you can find for minimizing muscle loss.

Nugget heads revenge wrote:
:: I have a question - and I have no idea about the effect of amino
:: acids on weight loss during atkins, hence my reason for asking my
:: intellectual betters.
::
:: Would taking BCAA's (Branched Chain Amino Acids) supplements
:: (apparently a combination of Leucine, Isoleucine and Valine) be a
:: good idea on Atkins.
::
:: Apparently it helps prevent muscle loss and is touted as helping
:: with fat loss over muscle loss (could be a load of crap though).
::
:: I realise I probably already get some of the benefits of this type
:: of amino acid from eggs etc. but was wondering if supplementing on
:: it would have any adverse effects and perhaps interfere with ketosis
:: perhaps, or actually promote it.
::
:: Anyone who can offer any insight I'd appreciate it.
::
:: Cheers
::
:: John


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Old May 13th, 2006, 04:34 PM posted to alt.support.diet.low-carb
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In article ,
"Nugget heads revenge" wrote:

I have a question - and I have no idea about the effect of amino acids on
weight loss during atkins, hence my reason for asking my intellectual
betters.

Would taking BCAA's (Branched Chain Amino Acids) supplements (apparently a
combination of Leucine, Isoleucine and Valine) be a good idea on Atkins.

Apparently it helps prevent muscle loss and is touted as helping with fat
loss over muscle loss (could be a load of crap though).

I realise I probably already get some of the benefits of this type of amino
acid from eggs etc. but was wondering if supplementing on it would have any
adverse effects and perhaps interfere with ketosis perhaps, or actually
promote it.

Anyone who can offer any insight I'd appreciate it.

Cheers

John


I'm a huge believer in amino acid "therapies", but as far as BCAA's go,
they do you a lot more good if you are lifting weights.

If you are not, my personal opinion is that it'd be a waste of money.

You'd be better off taking L-Ornithine, L-Lysine and L-Arginine at night
on an empty stomach. Don't eat for at least 2 hours before taking it.
This boosts night time output of HGH and IGF-1.

Also, stuff down all the L-Glutamine you can afford. It's cheapest if
you buy it as a loose powder.

Read any books you can get your hands on by Earl Mindel.
I have yet to find him to be wrong when I've used myself as a guinea
pig. ;-)

Hope this helps?
--
Peace!
Om

"My mother never saw the irony in calling me a Son of a bitch"
-- Jack Nicholson
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Old May 13th, 2006, 04:37 PM posted to alt.support.diet.low-carb
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Agreed.

L-Gluatmine is one of the most utilized amino acids by the body,
primarily in muscle, digestive system and central nervous system.
I've noticed a real improvement in short term memory in my 73 y/o father
when I make sure he takes it. It's available as a loose powder and it's
more affordable that way.

The "natural" food source highest in L-Glutamine are dairy products.
Purified lactalbumin (milk protein) and whey protein.

Learn to read labels. G


In article ,
"Cubit" wrote:

The amino acid L-Glutamine helps reduce carb cravings for some folks, but
the dosage needs to be large.

I'm not familiar with the biology of your BCAAs, so I don't know. My
feeling is that eggs are a great source of fat and protein.


"Nugget heads revenge" wrote in message
...
I have a question - and I have no idea about the effect of amino acids on
weight loss during atkins, hence my reason for asking my intellectual
betters.

Would taking BCAA's (Branched Chain Amino Acids) supplements (apparently a
combination of Leucine, Isoleucine and Valine) be a good idea on Atkins.

Apparently it helps prevent muscle loss and is touted as helping with fat
loss over muscle loss (could be a load of crap though).

I realise I probably already get some of the benefits of this type of

amino
acid from eggs etc. but was wondering if supplementing on it would have

any
adverse effects and perhaps interfere with ketosis perhaps, or actually
promote it.

Anyone who can offer any insight I'd appreciate it.

Cheers

John


--
Peace!
Om

"My mother never saw the irony in calling me a Son of a bitch"
-- Jack Nicholson
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Old May 13th, 2006, 04:38 PM posted to alt.support.diet.low-carb
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"Roger Zoul" wrote:

If you're really concerned about muscle loss while LC dieting, start lifting
weights. Nothing will work for you better than that.


I agree with that one 150%!!!!!!

It also reverses bone loss in older women.
--
Peace!
Om

"My mother never saw the irony in calling me a Son of a bitch"
-- Jack Nicholson
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Old May 13th, 2006, 05:13 PM posted to alt.support.diet.low-carb
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"OmManiPadmeOmelet" wrote in message
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I'm a huge believer in amino acid "therapies", but as far as BCAA's go,
they do you a lot more good if you are lifting weights.

If you're getting enough protein in your diet, there's no point to ingesting
BCAA's.


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Old May 13th, 2006, 06:13 PM posted to alt.support.diet.low-carb
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Just eat a high-protein breakfast every morning (like bacon and eggs)
and get some sort of weight-bearing excercise on a regular basis, and
you'll be fine. Better to spend your extra $$ on some fine aged cheeses
or low-carb beer or something rather than supplements IMHO. Cheers.

Nugget heads revenge wrote:
I have a question - and I have no idea about the effect of amino acids on
weight loss during atkins, hence my reason for asking my intellectual
betters.

Would taking BCAA's (Branched Chain Amino Acids) supplements (apparently a
combination of Leucine, Isoleucine and Valine) be a good idea on Atkins.

Apparently it helps prevent muscle loss and is touted as helping with fat
loss over muscle loss (could be a load of crap though).

I realise I probably already get some of the benefits of this type of amino
acid from eggs etc. but was wondering if supplementing on it would have any
adverse effects and perhaps interfere with ketosis perhaps, or actually
promote it.

Anyone who can offer any insight I'd appreciate it.

Cheers

John


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Old May 13th, 2006, 08:03 PM posted to alt.support.diet.low-carb
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"JC Der Koenig" wrote:

"OmManiPadmeOmelet" wrote in message
...

I'm a huge believer in amino acid "therapies", but as far as BCAA's go,
they do you a lot more good if you are lifting weights.

If you're getting enough protein in your diet, there's no point to ingesting
BCAA's.


Tsk! Just shows how clueless you really are.......

What a shame.
--
Peace!
Om

"My mother never saw the irony in calling me a Son of a bitch"
-- Jack Nicholson
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Old May 13th, 2006, 08:35 PM posted to alt.support.diet.low-carb
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"OmManiPadmeOmelet" wrote in message
...
In article ,
"JC Der Koenig" wrote:

"OmManiPadmeOmelet" wrote in message
...

I'm a huge believer in amino acid "therapies", but as far as BCAA's go,
they do you a lot more good if you are lifting weights.

If you're getting enough protein in your diet, there's no point to
ingesting
BCAA's.


Tsk! Just shows how clueless you really are.......


There is no proof that BCAA's add anything for someone that is getting
enough protein through their diet. It doesn't matter how much you believe
in it.


 




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