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Old May 2nd, 2005, 09:46 PM
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" A high calorie diet is the next best way to increase metabolism. Consuming
mass quantities of high calorie food will increase metabolic rate by up to
10 percent. On the contrary, a malnutritious (light) diet could lower your
metabolism by 10 percent. "
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I am 5'11'' 200lbs and trying to lose 15lbs of body fat through
weight/cardio training and a clean diet. I "should" be consuming 3000
calories a day, but have held between 1800-2000 for the past 3 weeks
dropping 15lbs. If I consume the recommended 3000 a day for my
weight/height, should I expect to lose body fact quicker? This statement is
confusing to me.


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Old May 2nd, 2005, 11:07 PM
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455 wrote:
" A high calorie diet is the next best way to increase metabolism.
Consuming mass quantities of high calorie food will increase
metabolic rate by up to 10 percent. On the contrary, a malnutritious
(light) diet could lower your metabolism by 10 percent. "
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I am 5'11'' 200lbs and trying to lose 15lbs of body fat through
weight/cardio training and a clean diet. I "should" be consuming 3000
calories a day, but have held between 1800-2000 for the past 3 weeks
dropping 15lbs. If I consume the recommended 3000 a day for my
weight/height, should I expect to lose body fact quicker? This
statement is confusing to me.


Drinking lots of water helps raise your metabolism. So does eating small
meals throughout the day. I eat about every two hours, and I can lose
weight eating 2,500 kcal per day, at 5' 10" and 185.

It all comes down to calories in vs. calories out. What Ignoramus said is
correct. Your metabolism will slow to some degree. But, that's normal.

You can add a "re-feed" day in your week as I do. I've been told it helps
reassure your metabolism that it's not going to starve, so don't slow down.
Also, dieting with out a re-feed day begins to suck after awhile. You still
need to enjoy life.

And try not to run a caloric deficit greater than 1,000 per day. This not
only will help maintain your metabolism, but also keep lean body mass. You
don't just lose fat, but also LBM. The key is to keep as much LBM as
possible while dropping weight. And if you're dropping weight fast, you'll
lose a bunch of LBM.
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Old May 3rd, 2005, 08:33 AM
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Drinking lots of water helps raise your metabolism. So does eating small
meals throughout the day. I eat about every two hours, and I can lose
weight eating 2,500 kcal per day, at 5' 10" and 185.


This is because of the cals required to digest & break down food, eating
several times a day is 'energy-inefficient' for the body (as opposed to one
or two big meals), the equivalent of going to the shops every time you want
to have something to eat or drink instead of stocking food & drink at home,
you'd use more energy fuelling your body and/or car doing this.

It all comes down to calories in vs. calories out. What Ignoramus said is
correct. Your metabolism will slow to some degree. But, that's normal.

You can add a "re-feed" day in your week as I do. I've been told it helps
reassure your metabolism that it's not going to starve, so don't slow
down. Also, dieting with out a re-feed day begins to suck after awhile.
You still need to enjoy life.


I posted about refeeds a while ago, although some people had arguments
against them, I had several refeeds, every 10-15 days. I was worried about
cancelling out the effect of the calorie restrictive days but, to my
surprise, even eating up to 3,500 cals on such days didn't seem to affect
the weight loss at all. There are psychological reasons for them (like you
say, life sucks without them) but as far as your body is concerned, you seem
to need them more if you restrict calories too far on your diet days and if
you're not really fat.


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Old May 3rd, 2005, 03:01 PM
Patricia Heil
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"455" wrote in message
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" A high calorie diet is the next best way to increase metabolism.
Consuming mass quantities of high calorie food will increase metabolic rate
by up to 10 percent. On the contrary, a malnutritious (light) diet could
lower your metabolism by 10 percent. "
---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------

I am 5'11'' 200lbs and trying to lose 15lbs of body fat through
weight/cardio training and a clean diet. I "should" be consuming 3000
calories a day, but have held between 1800-2000 for the past 3 weeks
dropping 15lbs. If I consume the recommended 3000 a day for my
weight/height, should I expect to lose body fact quicker? This statement
is confusing to me.


Can anybody here say crock. You don't say where you got this.



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Old May 3rd, 2005, 04:38 PM
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Polar Light wrote:

I posted about refeeds a while ago, although some people had

arguments
against them, I had several refeeds, every 10-15 days. I was worried

about
cancelling out the effect of the calorie restrictive days but, to my
surprise, even eating up to 3,500 cals on such days didn't seem to

affect
the weight loss at all. There are psychological reasons for them

(like you
say, life sucks without them) but as far as your body is concerned,

you seem
to need them more if you restrict calories too far on your diet days

and if
you're not really fat.


If you want to get most out of your refeeds, you may wish to limit your
fat intake and consume foods with a high glucose content (e.g., sugar)
to substantially increase your leptin levels.

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Old May 3rd, 2005, 05:04 PM
roxan
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When I had lost the weight before and used a refeed day, I didn't find that
it caused me to gain any weight back. It was rewarding to eat what I wanted
for one day and then get back to limiting my calorie intake the rest of the
week. I do this on the weekends and it helps with not being so stressful
about counting and watching calories.
Roxan
"Polar Light" wrote in message
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You can add a "re-feed" day in your week as I do. I've been told it

helps
reassure your metabolism that it's not going to starve, so don't slow
down. Also, dieting with out a re-feed day begins to suck after awhile.
You still need to enjoy life.


I posted about refeeds a while ago, although some people had arguments
against them, I had several refeeds, every 10-15 days. I was worried about
cancelling out the effect of the calorie restrictive days but, to my
surprise, even eating up to 3,500 cals on such days didn't seem to affect
the weight loss at all. There are psychological reasons for them (like you
say, life sucks without them) but as far as your body is concerned, you

seem
to need them more if you restrict calories too far on your diet days and

if
you're not really fat.



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Old May 3rd, 2005, 05:16 PM
Polar Light
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If you want to get most out of your refeeds, you may wish to limit your
fat intake and consume foods with a high glucose content (e.g., sugar)
to substantially increase your leptin levels.


Yes, I did just that & ate lots of sweets & drank sugary drinks. It's easy
to pile on the calories on those things 'coz sugar doesn't really fill you
up like 'proper food' does.

I read about it online although the websites I found seemed to be geared
largely towards bodybuilders, I also read some stuff by Lyle McDonald, who
seems to be a bit of a guru on the subject.


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Old May 3rd, 2005, 10:07 PM
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On 2 May 2005 21:07:58 GMT, Ignoramus760
wrote:

On Mon, 2 May 2005 16:46:10 -0400, 455 wrote:
" A high calorie diet is the next best way to increase metabolism. Consuming
mass quantities of high calorie food will increase metabolic rate by up to
10 percent. On the contrary, a malnutritious (light) diet could lower your
metabolism by 10 percent. "

I am 5'11'' 200lbs and trying to lose 15lbs of body fat through
weight/cardio training and a clean diet. I "should" be consuming 3000
calories a day, but have held between 1800-2000 for the past 3 weeks
dropping 15lbs. If I consume the recommended 3000 a day for my
weight/height, should I expect to lose body fact quicker? This statement is
confusing to me.


If you eat 20% more food, which increases your "metabolism" by 10%,
would you gain weight or lose weight?

Hint: that's a simple math question.

The anwer is you would gain weight.

Another problem: if you eat 20% less food, which reduces your
metaboism by 10%, would you gain or lose weight?

Answer: you would lose weight.

So, the conclusion is, to lose weight, eat less. Slowed metabolism is
a normal, and quite likely, adaptation to eating less that does not
stop your weight loss, given adequate reduction in calories.

I am also a 5'11" man, and I dropped weight nicely at 1900 cals per
day. I maintain my current weight on 2,500 cals per day.


OK, but what if... you increased you calories by 20% every other day
(and reduced your calorie intake by 20% on the in-between days)?

Simple math would say that it balances out... but this isn't a math
question, it's a biology question. :-)

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Old May 4th, 2005, 03:08 AM
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1.4 Decreasing detection times: Increasing metabolism is probably the most
effective way to decrease the time period that drugs can be detected in your
system. Physical activity can increase your metabolic rate as much as two
thousand percent! Nothing beats proper training taken to an extreme. A high
calorie diet is the next best way to increase metabolism. Consuming mass
quantities of high calorie food will increase metabolic rate by up to 10
percent. On the contrary, a malnutritious (light) diet could lower your
metabolism by 10 percent. Speed (the drug) will also increase metabolism.
Unfortunately, labs usually test for speed, and could get you into trouble.
So exercise with intensity, and eat big.

http://www.neonjoint.com/passing_a_d...ion_times.html


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Old May 4th, 2005, 03:12 PM
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In article ,
"455" wrote:

1.4 Decreasing detection times: Increasing metabolism is probably the most
effective way to decrease the time period that drugs can be detected in your
system. Physical activity can increase your metabolic rate as much as two
thousand percent! Nothing beats proper training taken to an extreme. A high
calorie diet is the next best way to increase metabolism. Consuming mass
quantities of high calorie food will increase metabolic rate by up to 10
percent. On the contrary, a malnutritious (light) diet could lower your
metabolism by 10 percent. Speed (the drug) will also increase metabolism.
Unfortunately, labs usually test for speed, and could get you into trouble.
So exercise with intensity, and eat big.

http://www.neonjoint.com/passing_a_d...ion_times.html



Or get a prescription. ;-)
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Om.

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