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Old February 12th, 2004, 03:12 PM
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http://www.startribune.com/stories/438/4362434.html
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Old February 12th, 2004, 03:43 PM
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Interesting. The disdane the people in the article have for lo-carbers is
amazing.

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Old February 13th, 2004, 03:32 PM
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Lori


"I don't think I've ever seen a diet fad that has had this kind of lasting
impact," said J.P. Samuelson, chef-owner of jP American Bistro in
Minneapolis. "I'm amazed at how prevalent it is. It's definitely on the
radar."

-Maybe because it actually works? It really bugs me that low-carb has been
bestowed with the label of a 'fad' diet, though I suppose that for a lot of
people it will end up being just that. Especially for those who go into it
uneducated, and then can't live within the self-imposed and incorrect
guidelines of eating 'no' carbs or eating only meat, cheese and eggs.

"People are looking for the miracle cure for their own over-consumption. If
everyone cut portions, bought higher-quality food, ate more slowly and
exercised, then we wouldn't have these fad diets."

-And if that had worked for me, I'd never have been motivated to try
low-carb - I wouldn't have needed to. In the past, the only way I was ever
able to lose weight was to starve myself and be miserable. Even when
getting lots of exercise daily. It wasn't a way of eating that I could
sustain or live within, so I'd eventually have to go off it and would regain
the weight.

Attitudes like the above _really_ bug me. For once in my life, I've found
something that works, and works well. Lack of control wasn't my issue. I
wasn't sitting on my butt eating bonbons when I gained the weight - I wasn't
consuming huge portions of anything. I was getting more exercise on my job
than most people get who go to the gym daily. I was back and forth across
acres of flight line (and always in a hurry - when your skipper's plane goes
down during preflight, you're not going to win any points by strolling
casually out there to fix it). I was carrying heavy toolboxes and parts
(the lightest box we had weighed 24lbs), and going up and down 1- and
2-story aircraft ladders and maintenance stands at full tilt - for up to 12
hours every day, including most weekends. Lunch was often a bowl of soup or
sandwich, dinner was often low-fat pasta with no meat (and not in huge
portions). Breakfast was usually toast, a bagel, oatmeal or cereal (when I
ate breakfast at all). Snacks were usually a bag of pretzels or cup of
low-fat yogurt. All supposedly healthy, all low-fat, all in moderate
portions - and all high in refined carbs. I also got a lot of 'wet' carbs
(and unnecessary calories) in the form of sports drinks, sodas and juices.
And I was *still* fat. Not obese by weight, bodyfat or BMI, but still fat
(my average weight was between 167 and 175, from age 25 to 35). When I got
out of the service, then I became obese.

(and you'd be right to note that I wasn't eating a lot of veggies or fruit
daily either - which is why I'm so amused whenever someone tells me how
'bad' Atkins is for me, and how unbalanced it is also. Following Atkins
helped me get my diet back in balance, where before it was rather
hit-and-miss nutrient-wise. I found that after cutting the flour and sugar,
vegetables tasted better to me and I actually wanted to eat them rather than
doing it because I 'had' to. I also found that I started craving water,
when before I didn't like to drink it).

Contrast to now, when I have a purely sedentary job...and feel like I'm
always eating. I feel like I eat more daily now than I did then, which
actually I probably do - the calorie deficit for me is probably coming more
from what I'm not drinking now (juices, sports drinks, and soda) rather than
what I'm not eating. And I am now *not* fat by weight, BMI or BF
percentage. I'm also older now and less active, which means that the weight
should have been harder to take off now than it was when I was in my 20's -
but it hasn't been. I've also had no trouble keeping it off, and don't
expect I will in the future either.

I firmly believe that the 'what' (at least for some people) is just as
important as the 'how much'. I'll be interested to see the results of the
more in-depth study on the pilot research done he http://tinyurl.com/sgk9
.. The fact that a low-carb group ate more calories (300 more per day), and
still lost _more_ weight than the low-fat group (at the same level of
activity), is quite interesting to me. It will be interesting to see what
the results are with a much larger sample group.

Sorry for the long rant - but I feel better, *grin*. Telling me to 'eat in
moderation', and to eat only low-fat, never did a thing for me in the past.
Telling me to watch sugar and starch (and pay less attention to portion
size) did - it made weight loss almost as easy now as it was difficult
before. The fact that it really can be this simple has been a revelation
for me. I feel like the wall I've been shoving against all these years
suddenly toppled over with just the push of a finger. And if it's been that
way for me, there are others out there who would experience the same - as
long as they aren't scared away from it by all the misinformation first.

Stargazer


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Old February 13th, 2004, 04:22 PM
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On Fri, 13 Feb 2004 12:02:21 GMT, CarbAddict
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From: Bear (Thu, 12 Feb 2004 14:43:34 GMT)
MsgId: . net

Interesting. The disdane the people in the article have for lo-carbers is
amazing.


Except in JC's case.



Thank you for your contribution.
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Old February 13th, 2004, 04:31 PM
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On Thu, 12 Feb 2004 14:12:39 GMT, "Lorelei"
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http://www.startribune.com/stories/438/4362434.html
Lori



Low-carbers are ruining it for the bakeries. Oh, boo-hoo. This concept
applies to everything. Remember the Tickle Me Elmo craze. Remember the
Cabbage Patch craze. Remember this craze. Remember that craze. What
happened when all these crazes blew over. Do you whine about your
failures or do you persevere and make something better.

The way I see it, bakeries have two options. If they want to stay on
the black side of the profit margin, that is. They can embrace the
trends and try to cater to their customers. Whether they think it's
right or not. Or they can buck the trend hoping it will pass over and
hopefully stay above water. Either way, you shouldn't whine about
other people creating your problems. You choose your own destiny.

Of course you should take anything that is written in the Star Tribune
with a grain of salt, IMO.
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Old February 13th, 2004, 08:59 PM
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"Bear" wrote in message link.net...
Interesting. The disdane the people in the article have for lo-carbers is
amazing.

--
- Bear
Grrrrrrrr : o)

297/277/210


The article is very condescending. Interestingly, the paper elected
to follow the article on their Web site with a link to Smart Carb
Choices and Adkins products. I guess it's okay to make fun of it, but
still okay to make a little money off it on their web site.

I've seen it work for me, and I know this is the first time in my life
when I don't finish a meal and obsess over where the next bite of food
is coming from , even though I'm stuffed at the time. It's the first
time I've stopped eating when I'm satisfied, as opposed to when I
simply can't cram another fork full of mashed potatos in my face or
I'll pop.

I honestly believe that (for me) the carbohydrates litteraly create an
imbalance that creates cravings not unlike what an alcoholic must
feel. I mean no disrespect to those battling alcoholism, I'v lost one
family member to that disease.

Please, everyone, keep the faith and hold your head high. My wife and
I were watching a show the other day and the dietitian telling about
how to eat low-fat was noticeably overweight! I think they have some
old-school training to get over. Imagine if researchers had clung to
the idea that cancer simply can't be cured or treated.

Keep up the good work.

Coff

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Old February 13th, 2004, 10:04 PM
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"Stargazer" wrote in message ...
"People are looking for the miracle cure for their own over-consumption. If
everyone cut portions, bought higher-quality food, ate more slowly and
exercised, then we wouldn't have these fad diets."

It's just good old-fashioned Puritanism, the twin-virtues of
hard work (exercise) and self-denial (small portions of awful tasting
low-fat food). These dietary Puritans hate low-carb because you don't
suffer enough on it.
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Old February 14th, 2004, 02:50 AM
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Default article in the Star Tribune

You'll lose about twenty pounds and then quit.

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JC

Eat less, exercise more.

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"Coff" wrote in message
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"Bear" wrote in message

link.net...
Interesting. The disdane the people in the article have for lo-carbers

is
amazing.

--
- Bear
Grrrrrrrr : o)

297/277/210


The article is very condescending. Interestingly, the paper elected
to follow the article on their Web site with a link to Smart Carb
Choices and Adkins products. I guess it's okay to make fun of it, but
still okay to make a little money off it on their web site.

I've seen it work for me, and I know this is the first time in my life
when I don't finish a meal and obsess over where the next bite of food
is coming from , even though I'm stuffed at the time. It's the first
time I've stopped eating when I'm satisfied, as opposed to when I
simply can't cram another fork full of mashed potatos in my face or
I'll pop.

I honestly believe that (for me) the carbohydrates litteraly create an
imbalance that creates cravings not unlike what an alcoholic must
feel. I mean no disrespect to those battling alcoholism, I'v lost one
family member to that disease.

Please, everyone, keep the faith and hold your head high. My wife and
I were watching a show the other day and the dietitian telling about
how to eat low-fat was noticeably overweight! I think they have some
old-school training to get over. Imagine if researchers had clung to
the idea that cancer simply can't be cured or treated.

Keep up the good work.

Coff

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