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Exercise is kicking my butt
"Sarah" wrote Then why don't you leave and never come back. Why? To miss out on the fun you're going to provide? I intend to greatly increase my presence here to make the newbie's aware that low-carbing can cause problems and may be dangerous to their health. Bull****. It may be justified to manage diseases like diabetes and epilepsy but should not be used just for weight loss. It don't lead to long term weight loss anyway. Bull****. So, you intend to spread bull**** in this newsgroup. Ok. |
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Exercise is kicking my butt
SWarah,
You are the one with the "Agenda". You are here to "Save" people from low carb. And, you make the mistake of common ignorance in not being able to use the english terms Lose and LOOSE correctly. You should be ashamed. The body has no absolute need for carbohydrates... Source, Institute of Medicine of the National Academy of Sciencesin thier reports titled "Dietary Reference Intakes". See below....... You can read this stuff yourself, without resorting to some crappy biased "diet guru". http://www.nap.edu/openbook.php?reco...10490&page=275 The lower limit of dietary carbohydrate compatible with life apparently is zero, provided that adequate amounts of protein and fat are consumed. However, the amount of dietary carbohydrate that provides for optimal health in humans is unknown. There are traditional populations that ingested a high fat, high protein diet containing only a minimal amount of carbohydrate for extended periods of time (Masai), and in some cases for a lifetime after infancy (Alaska and Greenland Natives, Inuits, and Pampas indigenous people) (Du Bois, 1928; Heinbecker, 1928). There was no apparent effect on health or longevity. Caucasians eating an essentially carbohydrate-free diet, resembling that of Greenland natives, for a year tolerated the diet quite well (Du Bois, 1928). However, a detailed modern comparison with populations ingesting the majority of food energy as carbohydrate has never been done. It has been shown that rats and chickens grow and mature successfully on a carbohydrate-free diet (Brito et al., 1992; Renner and Elcombe, 1964), but only if adequate protein and glycerol from triacylglycerols are provided in the diet as substrates for gluconeogenesis. It has also been shown that rats grow and thrive on a 70 percent protein, carbohydrate-free diet (Gannon et al., 1985). Azar and Bloom (1963) also reported that nitrogen balance in adults ingesting a carbohydrate-free diet required the ingestion of 100 to 150 g of protein daily. This, plus the glycerol obtained from triacylglycerol in the diet, presumably supplied adequate substrate for gluconeogenesis and thus provided at least a minimal amount of completely oxidizable glucose. The ability of humans to starve for weeks after endogenous glycogen supplies are essentially exhausted is also indicative of the ability of humans to survive without an exogenous supply of glucose or monosaccharides convertible to glucose in the liver (fructose and galactose). However, adaptation to a fat and protein fuel requires considerable metabolic adjustments. The only cells that have an absolute requirement for glucose as an oxidizable fuel are those in the central nervous system (i.e., brain) and those cells that depend upon anaerobic glycolysis (i.e., the partial oxidation of glucose to produce lactate and alanine as a source of energy), such as red blood cells, white blood cells, and medulla of the kidney. The central nervous system can adapt to a dietary fat-derived fuel, at least in part (Cahill, 1970; Sokoloff, 1973). Also, the glycolyzing cells can obtain their complete energy needs from the indirect oxidation of fatty acids through the lactate and alanine-glucose cycles. In the absence of dietary carbohydrate, de novo synthesis of glucose requires amino acids derived from the hydrolysis of endogenous or dietary protein or glycerol derived from fat. Therefore, the marginal amount of carbohydrate required in the diet in an energy-balanced state is conditional and dependent upon the remaining composition of the diet. Nevertheless, there may be subtle and unrecognized, untoward effects of a very low carbohydrate diet that may only be apparent when populations not genetically or traditionally adapted to this diet adopt it. This remains to be determined but is a reasonable expectation. Sarah wrote: "jcderkoeing" wrote in message t... "Sarah" wrote in message om... "jcderkoeing" wrote in message . net... "Sarah" wrote in message ... wrote in message glegroups.com... I don't know what it is lately but I can't make myself get off my ass. In times past I've been able to prescribe my workout goals before a week starts, say -- this week 'll walk 45 minutes four times and do Pilates four times, and then do it. Lately...it takes me *forever* to get around to this. I procrastinate. I spend an hour curling my hair, which is something I'd never even *do* normally, instead of just getting out and hitting the track. Pilates is totally easy to get around to -- I just have to get on my bedroom floor, but I'll turn on my TV, lay on my bed and stay there for just hours before braving the one foot vertical distance to my workout mat. Out on my walks, I can't wait til they're over. I think, ugh, another lap? I can't, next time. I've become a complete sloth and I do not understand the reason. It makes me wonder if our new hero Taubes was right about insulin resistance causing laziness. Tips? Tricks? Treats? c On the verge of lipo Since you are posting here, I assume you are following a low-carb diet plan. A low-carb ketogenic diet strips the body of glycogen. This is the reason for the illusion of rapid weight loss. The body normally stores up to 2000 calories in glycogen. Each gram of glycogen ties up 3-4 grams of water. When you loose the glycogen, you loose the water. You lose water, not loose. Idiot. The worst part is that without its store of glycogen, the body looses its The body doesn't loose anything. Idiot. ability to perform sustained strenuous activities. This leads to fatigue and lack of motivation and as you put it, you become a complete sloth. When experiencing glycogen deficiency, athletes often experience extreme fatigue to the point that it is difficult to move. Do you know this from experience or merely from shared old wives tales? Idiot. Treat your body to some healthy carbs for a few days and see if that makes a difference. Carbs are non-essential. Idiot. Don't listen to the low-carb fanatics that post here. They have their own agenda. This is a low-carb newsgroup. Idiot. See what I mean about their own agenda. When they are challenged, they respond with nitpicking and name calling. Don't listen to these rude, crude idiots. Sarah Your misinformation is the worst part of this newsgroup. Idiot. Then why don't you leave and never come back. I intend to greatly increase my presence here to make the newbie's aware that low-carbing can cause problems and may be dangerous to their health. It may be justified to manage diseases like diabetes and epilepsy but should not be used just for weight loss. It don't lead to long term weight loss anyway. Sarah |
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Exercise is kicking my butt
And your credentials would be? If you are going to blast your information as
if it is the ONLY correct thing around let us know what gives you the ability to be the bearer of such information? Have you read any of the latest studies? Have you read the books? What exactly do you KNOW about the Low Carb Diet? Have you had any experience with low carb yourself? How well did you follow the diet? Did you do it exactly the way it was written or did you make up your own plan along the way and then fail? We are waiting with baited breath to find out what makes you right and us so wrong? "Sarah" babbled: I intend to greatly increase my presence here to make the newbie's aware that low-carbing can cause problems and may be dangerous to their health. It may be justified to manage diseases like diabetes and epilepsy but should not be used just for weight loss. It don't lead to long term weight loss anyway. Sarah |
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Exercise is kicking my butt
And your credentials would be? If you are going to blast your information as
if it is the ONLY correct thing around let us know what gives you the ability to be the bearer of such information? Have you read any of the latest studies? Have you read the books? What exactly do you KNOW about the Low Carb Diet? Have you had any experience with low carb yourself? How well did you follow the diet? Did you do it exactly the way it was written or did you make up your own plan along the way and then fail? We are waiting with baited breath to find out what makes you right and us so wrong? "Sarah" babbled: I intend to greatly increase my presence here to make the newbie's aware that low-carbing can cause problems and may be dangerous to their health. It may be justified to manage diseases like diabetes and epilepsy but should not be used just for weight loss. It don't lead to long term weight loss anyway. Sarah |
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Exercise is kicking my butt
Sarah wrote:
Then why don't you leave and never come back. I intend to greatly increase my presence here to make the newbie's aware that low-carbing can cause problems and may be dangerous to their health. It may be justified to manage diseases like diabetes and epilepsy but should not be used just for weight loss. It don't lead to long term weight loss anyway. She's just here to troll. She says *here* that low-carb is justified to manage diabetes, but she began the anti-low-carb argument over on alt.support.diabetes a few days ago. After being called on lots of dumb arguments by a lot of folks, and changing her story again and again about what the problem with low-carb is, she finally just wound up flaming the heck out of Susan for matters having nothing to do with diet. Since she couldn't argue convincingly with diabetics about low-carb, she decided to come play here, probably following Susan. It's obvious to me that she's purposely trolling. -- http://www.ornery-geeks.org/consulting/ |
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Exercise is kicking my butt
"Sarah" wrote in message ... "jcderkoeing" wrote in message t... "Sarah" wrote in message ... "jcderkoeing" wrote in message ... "Sarah" wrote in message ... wrote in message oups.com... I don't know what it is lately but I can't make myself get off my ass. In times past I've been able to prescribe my workout goals before a week starts, say -- this week 'll walk 45 minutes four times and do Pilates four times, and then do it. Lately...it takes me *forever* to get around to this. I procrastinate. I spend an hour curling my hair, which is something I'd never even *do* normally, instead of just getting out and hitting the track. Pilates is totally easy to get around to -- I just have to get on my bedroom floor, but I'll turn on my TV, lay on my bed and stay there for just hours before braving the one foot vertical distance to my workout mat. Out on my walks, I can't wait til they're over. I think, ugh, another lap? I can't, next time. I've become a complete sloth and I do not understand the reason. It makes me wonder if our new hero Taubes was right about insulin resistance causing laziness. Tips? Tricks? Treats? c On the verge of lipo Since you are posting here, I assume you are following a low-carb diet plan. A low-carb ketogenic diet strips the body of glycogen. This is the reason for the illusion of rapid weight loss. The body normally stores up to 2000 calories in glycogen. Each gram of glycogen ties up 3-4 grams of water. When you loose the glycogen, you loose the water. You lose water, not loose. Idiot. The worst part is that without its store of glycogen, the body looses its The body doesn't loose anything. Idiot. ability to perform sustained strenuous activities. This leads to fatigue and lack of motivation and as you put it, you become a complete sloth. When experiencing glycogen deficiency, athletes often experience extreme fatigue to the point that it is difficult to move. Do you know this from experience or merely from shared old wives tales? Idiot. Treat your body to some healthy carbs for a few days and see if that makes a difference. Carbs are non-essential. Idiot. Don't listen to the low-carb fanatics that post here. They have their own agenda. This is a low-carb newsgroup. Idiot. See what I mean about their own agenda. When they are challenged, they respond with nitpicking and name calling. Don't listen to these rude, crude idiots. Sarah Your misinformation is the worst part of this newsgroup. Idiot. low-carbing can cause problems and may be dangerous Only if you're an idiot. It don't lead to long term weight loss anyway. Doesn't, not don't. Perhaps you should sign up for one of those English as a Second Language classes at your local community college. Idiot. |
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Exercise is kicking my butt
On Oct 27, 11:44 pm, "Sarah" wrote:
"jcderkoeing" wrote in message t... "Sarah" wrote in message m... "jcderkoeing" wrote in message et... "Sarah" wrote in message ... wrote in message legroups.com... I don't know what it is lately but I can't make myself get off my ass. In times past I've been able to prescribe my workout goals before a week starts, say -- this week 'll walk 45 minutes four times and do Pilates four times, and then do it. Lately...it takes me *forever* to get around to this. I procrastinate. I spend an hour curling my hair, which is something I'd never even *do* normally, instead of just getting out and hitting the track. Pilates is totally easy to get around to -- I just have to get on my bedroom floor, but I'll turn on my TV, lay on my bed and stay there for just hours before braving the one foot vertical distance to my workout mat. Out on my walks, I can't wait til they're over. I think, ugh, another lap? I can't, next time. I've become a complete sloth and I do not understand the reason. It makes me wonder if our new hero Taubes was right about insulin resistance causing laziness. Tips? Tricks? Treats? c On the verge of lipo Since you are posting here, I assume you are following a low-carb diet plan. A low-carb ketogenic diet strips the body of glycogen. This is the reason for the illusion of rapid weight loss. The body normally stores up to 2000 calories in glycogen. Each gram of glycogen ties up 3-4 grams of water. When you loose the glycogen, you loose the water. You lose water, not loose. Idiot. The worst part is that without its store of glycogen, the body looses its The body doesn't loose anything. Idiot. ability to perform sustained strenuous activities. This leads to fatigue and lack of motivation and as you put it, you become a complete sloth. When experiencing glycogen deficiency, athletes often experience extreme fatigue to the point that it is difficult to move. Do you know this from experience or merely from shared old wives tales? Idiot. Treat your body to some healthy carbs for a few days and see if that makes a difference. Carbs are non-essential. Idiot. Don't listen to the low-carb fanatics that post here. They have their own agenda. This is a low-carb newsgroup. Idiot. See what I mean about their own agenda. When they are challenged, they respond with nitpicking and name calling. Don't listen to these rude, crude idiots. Sarah Your misinformation is the worst part of this newsgroup. Idiot. Then why don't you leave and never come back. I intend to greatly increase my presence here to make the newbie's aware that low-carbing can cause problems and may be dangerous to their health. It may be justified to manage diseases like diabetes and epilepsy but should not be used just for weight loss. It don't lead to long term weight loss anyway. And how exactly would that contribute to the support of low carb dieters? Your information about glycogen stores completely ignores metabolic processes for rendering glycogen with minimal dietary carb from the fat stores, the break down of triglyercerides (that's a glycerine at the core), and protein. It also ignores ketones as fuel, the ATP/CP muscle energy metabolism (which probably works better on an adequate protein LC diet due to high levels of dietary creatine), or standard aerobic energy requirements. You do yourself as large a disservice as you do others with your wives tales about depleted energy. High carbs suck the energy right out of me. Low magnesium as well. Good protein and fat make me want to jump and shout. And then I go hit the weights. It's great. You might look into it for experience rather than blathering about what you clearly don't really know. |
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Exercise is kicking my butt
"jcderkoeing" wrote in message ... "Sarah" wrote in message ... wrote in message oups.com... [snip] The body doesn't loose anything. Idiot. [snip] My pants are loose. Does that count? |
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Exercise is kicking my butt
"Cubit" wrote in message ... "jcderkoeing" wrote in message ... "Sarah" wrote in message ... wrote in message oups.com... [snip] The body doesn't loose anything. Idiot. [snip] My pants are loose. Does that count? Only if you've had your pants on so long that they've melded to your skin. HTH |
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Exercise is kicking my butt
Cubit wrote:
"jcderkoeing" wrote in message ... "Sarah" wrote in message ... wrote in message egroups.com... [snip] The body doesn't loose anything. Idiot. [snip] My pants are loose. Does that count? Too loose and you lose them. Too loose La Trec was a famous artist. |
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