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Old October 8th, 2004, 02:37 AM
Kara H
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Default Veggies.

Hello!
First, THANKS for all of the congrats and comments in my previous
thread. Most people had the same theme/ recommendation: veggies. Rather than
responding individually I thought I'd just start a new thread. I have a
MAJOR problem with food textures and I don't eat veggies. It's a battle that
I've been fighting for over 10 years and I can't seem to win. I gag when I
eat them and it's really been something that I've worked on with no success.
We (being my doctor and I) tried the 'eat it and keep eating it- you'll get
used to it' method- no go. We tried the 'hide it in other things' method- no
go. We tried the 'dress them up a little' method- no go. I have taken to
supplementing with vitamins and other 'not really veggies but close enough'
things like ketchup, etc. I have sun-dried tomatoes on pizza and I eat
salads but that's it. I know most of you want to say 'Just eat them!' but it
really isn't that easy. I CAN'T do it! I can do corn, potatoes, peas (in
small quantities- if absolutely necessary) and almost all fruits (not
melon). So I guess what I'm getting at is that I SO wish I could eat veggies
without getting sick because it would help a lot with this weight-loss thing
but I'm not finding it possible.
With that- I need other alternatives. Very low point snacks? Filling,
yet low-point meals without many veggies? Good things to munch on when you
aren't really hungry but desire to eat/munch?
Ugggh. This veggie thing is one of my biggest frustrations.

Thanks again,
-Kara.


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Old October 8th, 2004, 03:11 AM
Laura
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When my kids were young they did not like veggies either. They would eat
salads or cut up cucumber. So if you can eat salads then just stick with
that. Why add additional stress to your life? Fruits are all low point.
Typically one point per serving with the exception of the banana. My
favorite lunch is a large salad with cut up grilled chicken with FF shredded
cheese. Other alternatives would be tuna with mayo or shrimp in the salad.

"Kara H" wrote in message
...
Hello!
First, THANKS for all of the congrats and comments in my previous
thread. Most people had the same theme/ recommendation: veggies. Rather

than
responding individually I thought I'd just start a new thread. I have a
MAJOR problem with food textures and I don't eat veggies. It's a battle

that
I've been fighting for over 10 years and I can't seem to win. I gag when I
eat them and it's really been something that I've worked on with no

success.
We (being my doctor and I) tried the 'eat it and keep eating it- you'll

get
used to it' method- no go. We tried the 'hide it in other things' method-

no
go. We tried the 'dress them up a little' method- no go. I have taken to
supplementing with vitamins and other 'not really veggies but close

enough'
things like ketchup, etc. I have sun-dried tomatoes on pizza and I eat
salads but that's it. I know most of you want to say 'Just eat them!' but

it
really isn't that easy. I CAN'T do it! I can do corn, potatoes, peas (in
small quantities- if absolutely necessary) and almost all fruits (not
melon). So I guess what I'm getting at is that I SO wish I could eat

veggies
without getting sick because it would help a lot with this weight-loss

thing
but I'm not finding it possible.
With that- I need other alternatives. Very low point snacks? Filling,
yet low-point meals without many veggies? Good things to munch on when you
aren't really hungry but desire to eat/munch?
Ugggh. This veggie thing is one of my biggest frustrations.

Thanks again,
-Kara.




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Old October 8th, 2004, 08:40 AM
Miss Violette
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what about juice? fruits are fine, and what about cooking them and blending
to a gravy consistency to just be able to swallow them? I do understand
your issue as I have the same problem with meats, It has taken a long time
for me to be able to get enough protein because of this, the good news is
that I just kept trying different things so I have enough variety to get it
in and not be bored to tears. I was also wondering if you like salad why
not just do the raw ones normally found in salad, and come to think of it
nothing wrong with just eating salad. What if you found a list of
vegetables and marked off all the ones you have tried cooked then the ones
you have tired raw, make a separate list of the few you can get down, then
once a week try one cooked or raw that you haven't tried, this way you will
get variety and maybe find another one or two you can deal with, Lee, who
uses a lot of meat replacement to have her protein... and if there is a
vegetarian reading here isn't there a vegetable powder of some sort that can
be dissolved in stuff? would that help Kara?
Kara H wrote in message
...
Hello!
First, THANKS for all of the congrats and comments in my previous
thread. Most people had the same theme/ recommendation: veggies. Rather

than
responding individually I thought I'd just start a new thread. I have a
MAJOR problem with food textures and I don't eat veggies. It's a battle

that
I've been fighting for over 10 years and I can't seem to win. I gag when I
eat them and it's really been something that I've worked on with no

success.
We (being my doctor and I) tried the 'eat it and keep eating it- you'll

get
used to it' method- no go. We tried the 'hide it in other things' method-

no
go. We tried the 'dress them up a little' method- no go. I have taken to
supplementing with vitamins and other 'not really veggies but close

enough'
things like ketchup, etc. I have sun-dried tomatoes on pizza and I eat
salads but that's it. I know most of you want to say 'Just eat them!' but

it
really isn't that easy. I CAN'T do it! I can do corn, potatoes, peas (in
small quantities- if absolutely necessary) and almost all fruits (not
melon). So I guess what I'm getting at is that I SO wish I could eat

veggies
without getting sick because it would help a lot with this weight-loss

thing
but I'm not finding it possible.
With that- I need other alternatives. Very low point snacks? Filling,
yet low-point meals without many veggies? Good things to munch on when you
aren't really hungry but desire to eat/munch?
Ugggh. This veggie thing is one of my biggest frustrations.

Thanks again,
-Kara.




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Old October 8th, 2004, 06:16 PM
ray miller
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I have a
MAJOR problem with food textures and I don't eat veggies.


I have sun-dried tomatoes on pizza and I eat
salads but that's it.


This is psychological and has little if anything to do with the taste
or texture. Without a doubt tomato is a fruit not a veg, so you should
be able to eat tomatoes without turning a hair.

So, what can you do about it? Go see a shrink perhaps?
Also you can start cooking fruit like a vegatable. Squash is a fruit,
so you should have no problem with that. Also courgettes etc.

You can do soup? Try it with ingredients you will eat straight, and
then add other stuff in small quantities.

If you are physically sick when you eat veges you might be able to get
it treated like a phobia. Try a blind taste test.

With that- I need other alternatives. Very low point snacks? Filling,
yet low-point meals without many veggies? Good things to munch on when you
aren't really hungry but desire to eat/munch?


Try atkins/low-carb. Restrict yourself to protein and fruit, and as
low fat as you can manage without being silly?

Ray
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Old October 9th, 2004, 04:24 AM
Stephen Hunt
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I can identify a little bit with your dilemma.Although,in my adult
life,I have learned to eat and enjoy most vegetables,except for one.I
still gag if I try to eat green,runny,cooked spinach.This seems to be a
matter of texture to me.So,while disliking one vegetable is not as big
of an issue as disliking most vegetables,I can identify with your
aversion to cetain textures.Good luck!

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Old October 9th, 2004, 06:46 AM
Kara H
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"ray miller" wrote:

This is psychological and has little if anything to do with the taste
or texture. Without a doubt tomato is a fruit not a veg, so you should
be able to eat tomatoes without turning a hair.


Hmm I have never thought of it that way. What were they key things I said
that made you think that. I'm trying to retrace myself and see where it
stems from.

So, what can you do about it? Go see a shrink perhaps?
Also you can start cooking fruit like a vegatable. Squash is a fruit,
so you should have no problem with that. Also courgettes etc.


See squash makes me gag also. So do plain tomatoes like slices on sandwiches
or cherry tomatoes. The seeds in tomatoes are awful for me and I can't
explain the way squash feels in my mouth. So frustrating!

You can do soup? Try it with ingredients you will eat straight, and
then add other stuff in small quantities.


It's so bad that when I have chicken noodle soup with carrots in it, I
manage to eat around ALL of the carrots leaving a big pile in my bowl when I
am finished.

If you are physically sick when you eat veges you might be able to get
it treated like a phobia. Try a blind taste test.


Yeah. I'm wondering if I have associated the taste with the textures because
V8 makes me sick to my stomach. So in my mind even when the textures are
gone, I have trained my brain to know that those tastes are associated with
bad textures and my reflexes try to prevent me from eating/drinking it.

Try atkins/low-carb. Restrict yourself to protein and fruit, and as
low fat as you can manage without being silly?


I have a very hard time with the low-carb thing. My problem is that I can't
do something that I don't believe in. I have researched a lot and I have
found that I truly don't believe in Atkins or find it healthy. There's not
much in the media about the negatives of low-carb but some medically backed
information has been passed on to me in articles and such that makes sense.
I eat a lot of carbs. Sure that might be a bit of the problem but I really
feel that my food choices are very restricted as of late and many of my best
options are sandwiches or WW pasta dinners, etc. So I guess I'm just stuck.

-Kara.


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Old October 9th, 2004, 11:04 AM
ray miller
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On Sat, 9 Oct 2004 01:46:19 -0400, "Kara H"
wrote:

"ray miller" wrote:

This is psychological and has little if anything to do with the taste
or texture. Without a doubt tomato is a fruit not a veg, so you should
be able to eat tomatoes without turning a hair.


Hmm I have never thought of it that way. What were they key things I said
that made you think that. I'm trying to retrace myself and see where it
stems from.


If you lump all veges together and say they make you gag, it can't be
something physical, cos all veges don't taste/feel the same or
anything like. Carrot and courgettes are in no way similar..
Since you don't have a problem with fruit, but you do have a problem
with tomatoes it muts be a learned thing.

Have you tried a (double) blind taste test.
Get someone to prepare several different fruits and veges, maybe
blended to a paste. Get someone else to feed a teaspoonful of each,
and you decide which you like.

Phobia's can be treated rather easily, and this is a bit similar. I
once saw a program on telly with a guy who was phobic about beans.
They treated him and in a couple of weeks he could prpeare and eat
them as though he'd never had a problem.

I have a very hard time with the low-carb thing.


I can sympathize. Low-carb isn't for me either.
For people with no health problems there's nothing wrong with it - at
least in the short term. It's not really a WOE that can be sustained,
but even with WW once you reach target you have to re-assess how you
eat. Changing to maintenance is probably as big a problem as changing
from low-carb to eating 'normally' again.

Good luck

Ray
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Old October 9th, 2004, 07:51 PM
Kara H
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"ray miller" wrote:

Have you tried a (double) blind taste test.
Get someone to prepare several different fruits and veges, maybe
blended to a paste. Get someone else to feed a teaspoonful of each,
and you decide which you like.


I need to do that. The problem is that no one in my family really eats
veggies (which might be an ADDITIONAL problem with me and my veggies) but I
will have to get them to figure out how to cook them for me. What would you
say would be the best to try?

I can sympathize. Low-carb isn't for me either.
For people with no health problems there's nothing wrong with it - at
least in the short term. It's not really a WOE that can be sustained,
but even with WW once you reach target you have to re-assess how you
eat. Changing to maintenance is probably as big a problem as changing
from low-carb to eating 'normally' again.


Yep, you're right. It's definitely a lifestyle change more than anything
else.

-Kara.


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Old October 10th, 2004, 06:09 AM
Kara H
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"Miss Violette" wrote:

Maybe part of the issue is that you haven't been exposed to enough ways of
them being prepared to find what you can eat.


Yes I definitely think this is part of the problem. I have been around salad
a lot so maybe I can tolerate it more because of that?

I was thinking, I drink water
to help my weight loss, I will NEVER like/enjoy it but I have worked it
around so I can stand it, get it down and not gag, this has taken over a
year so don't be in a rush. If you live near a good vegetarian restaurant
or buffet you might be able to go there and taste some things to see if
there is anything you can get down, if it is a buffet then there is just

one
price and you do not have to feel guilty if you don't finish it, just move
on and try something else, keep a list of what you try so you know what

you
can stand, what you might like and what is out of the question,


Hmmm I can't think of any off the top of my head but I think I just need to
experiment. I mentioned it in another post but I had grilled onions and
green peppers today and they were GREAT. Have you grilled veggies before? Do
you know of any other veggies that would be good when grilled? Maybe it's
something about the grill that makes it more palatable? Thanks again!

-Kara.


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Old October 10th, 2004, 07:13 AM
Miss Violette
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Maybe part of the issue is that you haven't been exposed to enough ways of
them being prepared to find what you can eat. I was thinking, I drink water
to help my weight loss, I will NEVER like/enjoy it but I have worked it
around so I can stand it, get it down and not gag, this has taken over a
year so don't be in a rush. If you live near a good vegetarian restaurant
or buffet you might be able to go there and taste some things to see if
there is anything you can get down, if it is a buffet then there is just one
price and you do not have to feel guilty if you don't finish it, just move
on and try something else, keep a list of what you try so you know what you
can stand, what you might like and what is out of the question, Lee
Kara H wrote in message
...
"ray miller" wrote:

Have you tried a (double) blind taste test.
Get someone to prepare several different fruits and veges, maybe
blended to a paste. Get someone else to feed a teaspoonful of each,
and you decide which you like.


I need to do that. The problem is that no one in my family really eats
veggies (which might be an ADDITIONAL problem with me and my veggies) but

I
will have to get them to figure out how to cook them for me. What would

you
say would be the best to try?

I can sympathize. Low-carb isn't for me either.
For people with no health problems there's nothing wrong with it - at
least in the short term. It's not really a WOE that can be sustained,
but even with WW once you reach target you have to re-assess how you
eat. Changing to maintenance is probably as big a problem as changing
from low-carb to eating 'normally' again.


Yep, you're right. It's definitely a lifestyle change more than anything
else.

-Kara.




 




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