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Old November 11th, 2004, 01:37 PM
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Wednesday, November 10, 2004

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Vitamin E hasn't proven to be good for the heart, and now a study suggests
that too much vitamin E - daily doses of 400 IU or more - actually increases
the risk of dying, according to new findings.



Johns Hopkins University researcher Edgar R. Miller III, MD, PhD, an
associate professor of medicine, tells WebMD that when he combined 19
vitamin E studies that looked at almost 136,000 patients, "it was clear that
as the vitamin E dose increased, so does all-cause mortality."



He says the risk of death starts to increase at 150 IU, but at 400 IU, which
is the typical dose available in vitamin E capsules, the risk of dying from
any cause is about 10 percent higher than for people not taking the vitamin.
At megadoses, such as 2,000 IU of vitamin E, the risk increased more than 20
percent.



"Based on our findings, high-dose vitamin E supplementation is unjustified,"
he says. Vitamins, he notes, are not regulated by the FDA or other agencies,
but a report in 2000 by the Institute of Medicine recommended 1,000 IU per
day as the "upper tolerable limit" for vitamin E. "We recommend that the
upper tolerable limit be lowered to 400 IU per day," he says. Adults get
about 10 IU of vitamin E from diet, he says.


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Old November 11th, 2004, 09:49 PM
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Johns Hopkins University researcher Edgar R. Miller III, MD, PhD, an
associate professor of medicine, tells WebMD that when he combined 19
vitamin E studies that looked at almost 136,000 patients, "it was clear that
as the vitamin E dose increased, so does all-cause mortality."


I see. So what they are saying is that taking too much Vitamin E
could cause you to be hit by a bus.

Yep, good hard science. That's what I love.

Em
Be careful what you wish for....
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Old November 11th, 2004, 09:49 PM
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Johns Hopkins University researcher Edgar R. Miller III, MD, PhD, an
associate professor of medicine, tells WebMD that when he combined 19
vitamin E studies that looked at almost 136,000 patients, "it was clear that
as the vitamin E dose increased, so does all-cause mortality."


I see. So what they are saying is that taking too much Vitamin E
could cause you to be hit by a bus.

Yep, good hard science. That's what I love.

Em
Be careful what you wish for....
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Old November 11th, 2004, 10:08 PM
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"Auntie Em" wrote in message
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Johns Hopkins University researcher Edgar R. Miller III, MD, PhD, an
associate professor of medicine, tells WebMD that when he combined 19
vitamin E studies that looked at almost 136,000 patients, "it was clear

that
as the vitamin E dose increased, so does all-cause mortality."


I see. So what they are saying is that taking too much Vitamin E
could cause you to be hit by a bus.

Yep, good hard science. That's what I love.

Em
Be careful what you wish for....


A similar study some year's ago concluded that "it was clear that as the
number of daily cigarettes smoked increased, so does all-cause mortality".

Would you have the same comments regarding that study?

GG


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Old November 12th, 2004, 12:16 AM
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"GaryG" wrote in message
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"Auntie Em" wrote in message
...
Johns Hopkins University researcher Edgar R. Miller III, MD, PhD, an
associate professor of medicine, tells WebMD that when he combined 19
vitamin E studies that looked at almost 136,000 patients, "it was clear

that
as the vitamin E dose increased, so does all-cause mortality."


I see. So what they are saying is that taking too much Vitamin E
could cause you to be hit by a bus.

Yep, good hard science. That's what I love.

Em
Be careful what you wish for....


A similar study some year's ago concluded that "it was clear that as the
number of daily cigarettes smoked increased, so does all-cause mortality".

Would you have the same comments regarding that study?

GG



Not to mention the fact that if she really wanted to make a useful comment
she would have found the original report to see what "all-cause" means in a
medical context.


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Old November 12th, 2004, 12:25 AM
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"GaryG" wrote in message
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"Auntie Em" wrote in message
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Johns Hopkins University researcher Edgar R. Miller III, MD, PhD, an
associate professor of medicine, tells WebMD that when he combined 19
vitamin E studies that looked at almost 136,000 patients, "it was clear

that
as the vitamin E dose increased, so does all-cause mortality."


I see. So what they are saying is that taking too much Vitamin E
could cause you to be hit by a bus.

Yep, good hard science. That's what I love.

Em
Be careful what you wish for....


A similar study some year's ago concluded that "it was clear that as the
number of daily cigarettes smoked increased, so does all-cause mortality".

Would you have the same comments regarding that study?

GG



And here's the link so she can read it. If she can understand the
terminology.

http://www.annals.org/cgi/content/fu...01040-00110v1;


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Old November 12th, 2004, 12:25 AM
Patricia Heil
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"GaryG" wrote in message
...
"Auntie Em" wrote in message
...
Johns Hopkins University researcher Edgar R. Miller III, MD, PhD, an
associate professor of medicine, tells WebMD that when he combined 19
vitamin E studies that looked at almost 136,000 patients, "it was clear

that
as the vitamin E dose increased, so does all-cause mortality."


I see. So what they are saying is that taking too much Vitamin E
could cause you to be hit by a bus.

Yep, good hard science. That's what I love.

Em
Be careful what you wish for....


A similar study some year's ago concluded that "it was clear that as the
number of daily cigarettes smoked increased, so does all-cause mortality".

Would you have the same comments regarding that study?

GG



And here's the link so she can read it. If she can understand the
terminology.

http://www.annals.org/cgi/content/fu...01040-00110v1;


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Old November 12th, 2004, 04:32 PM
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One time on Usenet, "Patricia Heil" said:
"GaryG" wrote in message
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"Auntie Em" wrote in message
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Johns Hopkins University researcher Edgar R. Miller III, MD, PhD, an
associate professor of medicine, tells WebMD that when he combined 19
vitamin E studies that looked at almost 136,000 patients, "it was clear

that
as the vitamin E dose increased, so does all-cause mortality."


I see. So what they are saying is that taking too much Vitamin E
could cause you to be hit by a bus.

Yep, good hard science. That's what I love.


A similar study some year's ago concluded that "it was clear that as the
number of daily cigarettes smoked increased, so does all-cause mortality".

Would you have the same comments regarding that study?


Not to mention the fact that if she really wanted to make a useful comment
she would have found the original report to see what "all-cause" means in a
medical context.


Well, I'll confess that I don't get it -- what *does* "all-cause" mean
in this context?

--
J.J., who only takes 45 IU of Vitamin E per day...
 




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