Nutirsystem

I threw in the towel and signed up for nutrisystem. Had my first meal
tonight. Nothing to write home about but not spectacularly gourmet, either.
Anybody else trying it?

Hmmmm if not maybe for the reason you mention here.

nck wrote:

I threw in the towel and signed up for nutrisystem. Had my first meal
tonight. Nothing to write home about but not spectacularly gourmet, either.
Anybody else trying it?

I must admit, I was impressed with the most recent Nurtisystem TV
advertisement. It stated that their meal plan was based on the glycemic
index which is extremely helpful to me. Then it went on to say that for
only ten bucks a day plus whatever other fees they charge, you could buy
their food.

Being quite familiar with the glycemic index, I can assure you that it is
possible to eat for less than ten dollars a day. If I am hungry in the
morning, I eat an egg and a slice of bacon or Canadian ham. I'm thinking 50
cents. At lunch about three times a week, I have soy protein powder with
yogurt and iced water. That costs about a buck. Dinner may be a salad or
my Italian sausage and sharp cheddar cheese. This costs less than 2.00. I
snack on apples and peanut butter or popcorn and wine. Nuts come in handy
for snacking but they need to be measured before eating! When I have worked
out very hard, I will treat myself to a serving of ice cream.

Three hundred bucks a month is not horrible for a single person but when two
people want to lose weight, there is a 600.00 grocery bill to cover. If
there are other members of the household who are not on Nutri-Systems, the
price of regular food is still a burden.

I am a firm believer that if weight loss is to be permanent, losers have to
assume responsibility. It is easy to lose weight when a person is given
pre-measured foods to eat. Long term success comes from being able to move
about in social circles making the right decisions.

j
"Patricia Heil" wrote in message
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Hmmmm if not maybe for the reason you mention here.

nck wrote:

I threw in the towel and signed up for nutrisystem. Had my first meal
tonight. Nothing to write home about but not spectacularly gourmet,
either.
Anybody else trying it?

I look at my own problem this way:
Eating disorders are like alcoholism and need to be treated. However, the
alcoholic can cut out alcohol and live, you can't quit eating and live, so
your addiction (and not trivializing substance addictions, believe me, too
many people I know have been swallowed up by that) gets "teased" on a daily
basis. Removing myself from "the usual" and doing something radical, like
having my food delivered in pre-measured packets etc, is what helps me to
re-learn my approach to food. It's a medical problem, I am taking a medical
treatment approach. Nothing else has worked for me, including all that
"journaling" and all the other "sensible diet" lies. Maybe this works for a
small percentage of a percentage but I don't think it's any more of a
long-term solution than anything else. First, you have to GET the
health-endangering fat off as efficiently and safely as possible, while
working on the behaviour thing. And it sure is less radical than all this
fad surgery. And considerably cheaper than going to a fat-farm...with the
at-home program and a good gym you can almost duplicate the fat-farm
approach. Plus you ARE doing it yourself. It's especially good for people
who are insulin-resistant, like me. Furthermore, I have already learned how
to make choices when I am on my own, like going out for a meal.
And this is from someone who quit smoking cold-turkey and hits the gym
almost daily and is studying for an at-home college degree, so I don't lack
discipline. I have tried every "sensible" eating plan out there and it
doesn't work for me. This does. If something else works for you, great.
It might be pricey for a time, but so is insulin, heart medications and
arthritis meds if you don't do something about your weight. And medication
is for life.
It also relieves me of thinking about FOOD all day. I just grab my entrée,
add some salad and fruit and get on with my life. Granted, you could do
this with Lean Cuisines etc, but I like the no-brainer thing. ;-)
Then there's this thought that "I am spending a LOT of money on this, so I
damned well better make it work!"
Verbosely yours.....

in article %eHNb.9858$ct4.1660@lakeread05, Julianne at
wrote on 1/15/04 19:36:

I must admit, I was impressed with the most recent Nurtisystem TV
advertisement. It stated that their meal plan was based on the glycemic
index which is extremely helpful to me. Then it went on to say that for
only ten bucks a day plus whatever other fees they charge, you could buy
their food.

Being quite familiar with the glycemic index, I can assure you that it is
possible to eat for less than ten dollars a day. If I am hungry in the
morning, I eat an egg and a slice of bacon or Canadian ham. I'm thinking 50
cents. At lunch about three times a week, I have soy protein powder with
yogurt and iced water. That costs about a buck. Dinner may be a salad or
my Italian sausage and sharp cheddar cheese. This costs less than 2.00. I
snack on apples and peanut butter or popcorn and wine. Nuts come in handy
for snacking but they need to be measured before eating! When I have worked
out very hard, I will treat myself to a serving of ice cream.

Three hundred bucks a month is not horrible for a single person but when two
people want to lose weight, there is a 600.00 grocery bill to cover. If
there are other members of the household who are not on Nutri-Systems, the
price of regular food is still a burden.

I am a firm believer that if weight loss is to be permanent, losers have to
assume responsibility. It is easy to lose weight when a person is given
pre-measured foods to eat. Long term success comes from being able to move
about in social circles making the right decisions.

j
"Patricia Heil" wrote in message
...



Hmmmm if not maybe for the reason you mention here.

nck wrote:

I threw in the towel and signed up for nutrisystem. Had my first meal
tonight. Nothing to write home about but not spectacularly gourmet,
either.
Anybody else trying it?

How come none of us (me first) seem to be able to spell it???? ;-)
Actually, the other meals have been pretty good. Let's put it this way, if
you don't mind Wwers, LC and HC frozen meals, these are ok. There are a few
bloopers...there are bloopers in the frozen meals, too.
I had the dried scrambled eggs yesterday morning and they were quite tasty.
BTW, while awaiting this package, I was filling in with the slim-fast meals.
The mac and cheese they do is quite delicious, but take a chaser of "Beano"
with it. I am not kidding.:-(

in article , Patricia Heil at
wrote on 1/15/04 15:49:




Hmmmm if not maybe for the reason you mention here.

nck wrote:

I threw in the towel and signed up for nutrisystem. Had my first meal
tonight. Nothing to write home about but not spectacularly gourmet, either.
Anybody else trying it?

Well, goody for you and welcome to my killfile



in article , Ignoramus28064 at
lid wrote on 1/16/04 10:51:

In article , nck wrote:

I look at my own problem this way: Eating disorders are like
alcoholism and need to be treated. However, the alcoholic can cut
out alcohol and live, you can't quit eating and live, so your
addiction (and not trivializing substance addictions, believe me,
too many people I know have been swallowed up by that) gets "teased"
on a daily basis.

Obviously, you can't just stop eating like you stop drinking alcoholic
beverages. But you can stop eating junk food and you can stop bad
eating habits and quit those cold turkey.

For example, I quit cold turkey:

1. Eating in the evenings
2. Eating sugar
3. Eating junk food
4. Eating for any emotional reason, ever.

These were my bad habits that I found were most easily controlled by
stopping them entirely.

Removing myself from "the usual" and doing
something radical, like having my food delivered in pre-measured
packets etc, is what helps me to re-learn my approach to food. It's
a medical problem, I am taking a medical treatment approach.

It's not bad, but one day you will transition to real food, and it is
hard to manage this transition.

Nothing else has worked for me, including all that "journaling" and
all the other "sensible diet" lies. Maybe this works for a small
percentage of a percentage but I don't think it's any more of a
long-term solution than anything else.

I never bothered with journaling and daily calorie counting etc. I was
berated for it by self proclaimed experts, who, surprisingly, have a
lot more trouble maintaining their own weight.

All that stuff, while it may be good for others with a lot of time,
takes too much time. Over long time, only simple solutions work for me
as otherwise I find that my resources are better spent everywhere. So
I found, through trial and error, the quantity of food that maintains
my weight, and I simply stick to that quantity.

First, you have to GET the
health-endangering fat off as efficiently and safely as possible,
while working on the behaviour thing. And it sure is less radical
than all this fad surgery.

it is not bad. Just remembe rthat transition to other food will be a
challenge.

And considerably cheaper than going to a
fat-farm...with the at-home program and a good gym you can almost
duplicate the fat-farm approach.

absolutely

Plus you ARE doing it
yourself. It's especially good for people who are insulin-resistant,
like me. Furthermore, I have already learned how to make choices
when I am on my own, like going out for a meal. And this is from
someone who quit smoking cold-turkey and hits the gym almost daily
and is studying for an at-home college degree, so I don't lack
discipline. I have tried every "sensible" eating plan out there and
it doesn't work for me. This does. If something else works for
you, great.

I think that the only time when you can claim that something really
works for you is when you lost weight and are maintaining successfully
while living a normal daily life.

Which is not to say that you are on a bad plan, only that you have not
accumulated enough data points to say with certainty that it really
works.

Congrats on having lots of willpower.

It might be pricey for a time, but so is insulin, heart
medications and arthritis meds if you don't do something about your
weight. And medication is for life. It also relieves me of
thinking about FOOD all day. I just grab my entrée, add some salad
and fruit and get on with my life. Granted, you could do this with
Lean Cuisines etc, but I like the no-brainer thing. ;-) Then
there's this thought that "I am spending a LOT of money on this, so
I damned well better make it work!" Verbosely yours.....

I like no brainer things also, eating similar stuff every day.

i
223/173/180

On 1/16/2004 1:14 PM, Ignoramus28064 wrote:
In article , nck wrote:

Well, goody for you and welcome to my killfile


I have a feeling your prepackaged food stuff won't work for you in the
long run...

Actually, I know someone who did really really well on Nutrisystems.
That was about 10 years ago. She lost all of the weight that she needed
to and then transitioned what Ig is referring to as "real food." She
had some problems in the transition but that was all related to sodium
(apparently Nutrisystems was very low sodium at the time and she home
cooking was not or at least less so). Anyway, as with all programs,
YMMV. Best of luck to you.

--
jmk in NC

On 1/16/2004 3:19 PM, Ignoramus28064 wrote:
In article , jmk wrote:


On 1/16/2004 1:14 PM, Ignoramus28064 wrote:

In article , nck wrote:


Well, goody for you and welcome to my killfile


I have a feeling your prepackaged food stuff won't work for you in the
long run...

Actually, I know someone who did really really well on Nutrisystems.
That was about 10 years ago. She lost all of the weight that she needed
to and then transitioned what Ig is referring to as "real food." She
had some problems in the transition but that was all related to sodium
(apparently Nutrisystems was very low sodium at the time and she home
cooking was not or at least less so). Anyway, as with all programs,
YMMV. Best of luck to you.



Did your friend take transition very seriously?

What does that mean?

--
jmk in NC

"jmk" wrote in message
...


On 1/16/2004 1:14 PM, Ignoramus28064 wrote:
In article , nck wrote:

Well, goody for you and welcome to my killfile


I have a feeling your prepackaged food stuff won't work for you in the
long run...

Actually, I know someone who did really really well on Nutrisystems.

I know more than one as well. As usual, the idiot knows nothing...

nck, you're not alone, the idiot is in many peoples' killfiles.

Martha

That was about 10 years ago. She lost all of the weight that she needed
to and then transitioned what Ig is referring to as "real food." She
had some problems in the transition but that was all related to sodium
(apparently Nutrisystems was very low sodium at the time and she home
cooking was not or at least less so). Anyway, as with all programs,
YMMV. Best of luck to you.

--
jmk in NC

On Thu, 15 Jan 2004 19:36:57 -0600, "Julianne"
wrote:
Three hundred bucks a month is not horrible for a single person but when two
people want to lose weight, there is a 600.00 grocery bill to cover. If
there are other members of the household who are not on Nutri-Systems, the
price of regular food is still a burden.

We actually found our program (HMR) to be less expensive than our
grocery bill, and that included food, service fees and medical
expenses. (I posted the actually numbers here a few months ago.
Check the archives.) Not that that's a reason to go that way, but we
found that money (at least) was not a reason NOT to go that way.

I am a firm believer that if weight loss is to be permanent, losers have to
assume responsibility.

Without a doubt. However, most folks here know the troubles that stem
from trying to bite off more than you can chew, all at once. Making
small steps is a great approach, and indeed, programs like Nutrisystem
are indeed small steps since they take so much of the hard part,
decision-making, out of the way while you're getting started with your
new life. Then you can begin taking on more and more responsibility
as you become more comfortable with your new lifestyle, and more
invested in it due to your accomplishments.

It is easy to lose weight when a person is given
pre-measured foods to eat. Long term success comes from being able to move
about in social circles making the right decisions.

Yup! All in good time.


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