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Anyone know of a study/proponent of 'one day eating/one day fasting' quasi-CR...?
I've a friend who says he's heard of people doing it; but that's all I know:
I don't even know what it would be *called*... Thanks! Mr M. |
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Anyone know of a study/proponent of 'one day eating/one day fasting' quasi-CR...?
Lurkalot wrote: I've a friend who says he's heard of people doing it; but that's all I know: I don't even know what it would be *called*... Thanks! Mr M. Well, you've got The Warrior Diet, which advocates "fasting" for 16-18 hours. During that time you can eat some fruit, fruit juice, vegetable juice. It doesn't recommend fasting for more than that. The book is full of a lot of pseudo-science, not real hard data. "Clearing toxins", and all that B.S. but nothing to back up the claim. There was a study with mice in which they put some on calorie restriction, and a second group fasted for a day then ate whatever they wanted for the second day. Both groups showed improvement in ... well, whatever they measure. Blood, body weight, etc. Don't know of any study in humans. Eric |
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Anyone know of a study/proponent of 'one day eating/one day fasting' quasi-CR...?
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ups There was a study with mice in which they put some on calorie restriction, and a second group fasted for a day then ate whatever they wanted for the second day. Both groups showed improvement in ... well, whatever they measure. Blood, body weight, etc. Don't know of any study in humans. Thanks! Do you mean this: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Calorie...ative_approach ?? Mr M. |
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Anyone know of a study/proponent of 'one day eating/one day fasting' quasi-CR...?
Lurkalot wrote: "ee" wrote in message ups There was a study with mice in which they put some on calorie restriction, and a second group fasted for a day then ate whatever they wanted for the second day. Both groups showed improvement in ... well, whatever they measure. Blood, body weight, etc. Don't know of any study in humans. Thanks! Do you mean this: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Calorie...ative_approach ?? Mr M. Yes, that's the one. So if you're a mouse with Alzheimer's, that diet is the ticket But seriously, I was reading up on Roy Walford, one of the chief researchers. He evidently is the pioneer of calorie restriction as a way to extend longevity. He died in 1979 of ALS. Calorie restriction is obviously not very workeable. (Just go to a mall and look at the shoppers). But fasting a day and then over-eating might be doable. Eric |
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Anyone know of a study/proponent of 'one day eating/one day fasting' quasi-CR...?
"Lurkalot" writes:
I've a friend who says he's heard of people doing it; but that's all I know: I don't even know what it would be *called*... "Every Other Day Fasting" Search for "EOD Fasting". Also search PubMed for research by "Mattson M" (Mark Mattson). This might be of interest to get you started: http://www.futurepundit.com/archives/001201.html Cheers -- Manfred Bartz |
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Anyone know of a study/proponent of 'one day eating/one day fasting' quasi-CR...?
Lurkalot wrote: I've a friend who says he's heard of people doing it; but that's all I know: I don't even know what it would be *called*... Thanks! Mr M. Wolford did advocate fasting two days a week as a method of caloric restriction, and there are studies showing intermittant fasting prolongs lifespan in rats. I have heard of a study in Sweden, leading to a diet promolgated by Bill Phillips, a body builder magazine and supplement promoter. The diet consisted of 2 weeks of caloric restriction, about 1800 calories a day for a 170 pound male, followed by deliberate but nutricious overeating, no junk food. 3000 calories a day or more, at least 1000 calories beyond ones caloric needs with workouts. It was supposed to result in fat loss and muscle gain. I tried it for two cycles, all I could manage. I lost 10 pounds, and as far as I could measure it was mostly fat. My power did not decrease. The weight change and body composition was permanent. I've no idea how such a diet affects life extension, but the two week fasting likely activated the sirt1 gene. In that metabolic state the extra calories consumed for the following two weeks went into replacing lost muscle, as after starvation, rather than into fat. But the body kept on putting on muscle arter replacing what had been lost. That was the body building angle. |
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Anyone know of a study/proponent of 'one day eating/one day fasting' quasi-CR...?
"ee" wrote in message
oups.com... Lurkalot wrote: "ee" wrote in message ups There was a study with mice in which they put some on calorie restriction, and a second group fasted for a day then ate whatever they wanted for the second day. Both groups showed improvement in ... well, whatever they measure. Blood, body weight, etc. Don't know of any study in humans. Thanks! Do you mean this: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Calorie...ative_approach Yes, that's the one. So if you're a mouse with Alzheimer's, that diet is the ticket But seriously, I was reading up on Roy Walford, one of the chief researchers. He evidently is the pioneer of calorie restriction as a way to extend longevity. He died in 1979 of ALS. I'd heard of him -- though it was actually in 2004 that he died, and he was 79!! http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Roy_Walford Alas, we can't tell much from one case: he might have had earlier, or worse, ALS without his CR... Calorie restriction is obviously not very workeable. (Just go to a mall and look at the shoppers). But fasting a day and then over-eating might be doable. This was my thought! And what's more, I tend to have a kind of 'eating day / fasting day' life at the moment anyway. Hence my interest...! Regards, Mr M. |
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Anyone know of a study/proponent of 'one day eating/one day fasting' quasi-CR...?
Lurkalot wrote: I've a friend who says he's heard of people doing it; but that's all I know: I don't even know what it would be *called*... Thanks! Mr M. Check out the Yahoo group "fasting" at: http://groups.yahoo.com/groups/fasting "This group is devoted to intermittent fasting and its effects on physiology and health. We expect that both practitioners of intermittent fasting and scientists with an interest in the physiological effects of intermittent fasting will want to join. The founding members are both practitioners and scientists. We are interested in the idea that intermittent fasting may be a preferable way of obtaining the health benefits associated with caloric restriction." --Paul Wakfer MoreLife for the rational - http://morelife.org Reality based tools for more life in quantity and quality The Self-Sovereign Individual Project - http://selfsip.org Rational freedom by self-sovereignty & social contracting |
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Anyone know of a study/proponent of 'one day eating/one day fasting' quasi-CR...?
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"Lurkalot" wrote: I've a friend who says he's heard of people doing it; but that's all I know: I don't even know what it would be *called*... It's called intermittent fasting or alternate-day fasting. I and others have posted studies on it here before. It's effective for M.S. I find it beneficial for my autoimmunity - probably via the effect of mTOR inhibition on regulatory T-cells. It tends to extend lifespan in animal models, though not as much as strict CR. If I remember a chart posted here some while back, unlike CR it does elevate growth hormone/IGF-I levels, which may be one reason body-builders like it http://www.pnas.org/cgi/content/full/100/10/6216/F2. It also boosts ketones [PMID 16126250], which makes it good for epilepsy, juvenile brain cancer and spinal trauma. It blocks mitochondrial ROS and elevates SOD which makes it beneficial for a wide range of metabolic disorders. I would encourage you to search through past postings on the topic. |
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Anyone know of a study/proponent of 'one day eating/one day fasting'quasi-CR...?
Lurkalot wrote:
I've a friend who says he's heard of people doing it; but that's all I know: I don't even know what it would be *called*... Thanks! Mr M. You might want to read this :-) http://ouroboros.wordpress.com/2007/...te-starvation/ -- "I don't wanna die, there's no future in it!" -Curly Howard |
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