Atkins Died Obese, Confirmed By Mayor Bloomberg; Raises Rightful Suspicions About His "Accidental" Death

In article et,
says...
On Thu, 22 Jan 2004 0:02:18 -0500, Dr. Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD wrote
(in message m):

JC Der Koenig wrote:

"Dr. Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD" wrote in message
...
Largest Mu_n wrote:

http://tinyurl.com/33svn

"Atkins is dead. I don't believe that bull**** that he dropped dead
slipping on a sidewalk, yeah right, joked Bloomberg.

Chowing down on huge plate of pasta, Bloomberg ripped into the man who
told dieters to stay away from carbohydrates.

Atkins died last April when he hit his head after slipping on a patch
of ice in front of his Manhattan office.

I actually went to his house out in South Hampton, said Bloomberg. It
was for a fundraiser about two years ago. It was for Pataki
fundraiser, and I went. The guy was fat -- a big guy but heavy and the
food was inedible. I took one appetizer and spit it out in the napkin.
It was just terrible."

Interesting interview. A word to the wise.


You're an idiot and a quack. There's no way you should be giving any type of
medical advice. That's why you don't have access to a hospital, and why you
were fired in Florida. This is also why you troll usenet for unsuspecting
"patients". You bought your credentials on the internet. Shame on you

Chungspeak snipped



FYI Note: I am aware that I am responding to a cross-posted message.
Because the author of the message to which I am responding did not
request that the header be trimmed, I have not trimmed it. If you are
upset about reading this message, a few suggestions:

(1) Yell at Chung
(2) Report Chung to his ISP
(3) Killfile this thread.
(4) Killfile me.
(5) Read about free speech.

This discussion(s) is related to the Two Foot Diet approach (2FD) which
I developed as a replacement for Dr. Chung's Amazing Logic Defying Two
Pound Diet to avoid having to carry a scale around.

In 2003, my wife and I watched an IMAX film about climbing the Bavarian
Alps and learned that despite their exhausting regimen, the climbers
consumed only 10 packages of wieners per week. That's less than 2 feet
of wieners per day! Since none of the climbers died from starvation, I
think it is safe to assume that 2 feet of food per day should be more
than adequate for us non-climbing folks.

So I started a little experiment with the agreeable obese friends in my
neighborhood. I gave them ordinary 6 inch rulers with instructions to
measure the length of everything substantial that passed into their
mouths. The only things exempted were water and sugar-free drinks. What
I learned was that my obese friends were consuming between 8 to 12 feet
of food per day! At the time, I was about 10 lbs. over my ideal body
weight so I decided to find out how much I was eating per day... 3
feet. I cut back to less than 2 feet and was at my proper weight in one
month.

My friends have responded similarly except they have taken longer
because of having to lose more weight. Admittedly, some of my obese
friends were especially slow to respond. They also happen to be the
ones with an unfortunate propensity for accidentally loosing their 6
inch rulers and taking weeks to buy replacements.

So here's the deal: measure all the food you eat, using it's longest
dimension, and keep the total length to less than two feet per day.
That's all there is. No scales, no counting calories or carbohydrates.
Heck, if you loose your ruler, you can even use the first joint of your
thumb to measure.

I am making this diet available as a public service and without
compensation.

If you have any questions, just see Dr. Chung's helpful FAQ and
substitute "Two Feet" for "Two Pounds" everywhere... what could be
simpler?

Though Steve invented this approach, he did not initiate this Usenet
discussion(s). His participation in this discussion(s) has been
voluntary and has been conducted in the spirit of community service.
His motivation has been entirely altruistic and has arisen from his
religious beliefs as a Christian. Jesus freely gave of Himself to
better the health of folks He touched:

http://www.heartmdphd.com/hypocrite.asp

From the outset, it has been clear that there are those who are
vehemently opposed to the 2 foot diet approach. They have debated
Steve on every perceived weakness of the 2 foot diet approach and have
lost the argument soundly at every point:

http://www.heartmdphd.com/wtlossfaqs.asp ... just substitute "Foot" for
"Pound" everywhere.

These debates are archived on Google in their entirety within this and
other discussion threads.

However, instead of conceding gracefully that they've lost the
argument(s), certain parties have redirected their hatred of the 2 foot
diet approach toward its author. The rationale appears to be "if you
can not discredit the message then try to discredit the messenger."

Initially, these folks accused the messenger of "trolling." A "troll"
is someone who posts under the cloak of anonymity messages with no
redeeming discussion value and with the sole purpose of starting
"flame" wars.

These hateful folks lost credibility with this accusation when the
following observations were made:

(1) Steve has not been posting anonymously.

(2) The 2FD has been on-topic for the Usenet discussion groups hosting
the discussion(s).

(a) Those who are failing low-carbing can dovetail LC with the 2FD
to achieve near-ideal weight.

(b) Obese diabetics improve their blood glucose control when their
weight becomes near-ideal.

(c) For (b) see: http://tinyurl.com/moreChungbull****

(3) Steve did not start the discussion(s).

(4) The 2 foot diet approach is 100% free (no profit motive).

Full of hatred, frustration, and desperation, certain individuals have
tried to attack Steve's credentials knowing full well that they were
attempting to libel him. One notable example is Dr. Chung who is
jealous that Steve has improved on his diet.

When the full light was cast on Dr. Chung's libelous statements, the
hateful folks hiding in the darkness of anonymity, most notably Mu,
only hissed louder in support of their fallen hero.

Fortunately, those who have been following this discussion(s) either
actively or as lurkers can easily dismiss the hisses, for what they
are, using the on-line third-party resources at:

http://www.heartmdphd.com/sign_up_to_be_a_patient.asp

Moreover, readers need only make the following observations concerning
the anon posters who continue to hiss, most notably Mu:

(1) They are anonymous and thus expect to have no credibility (or
accountability).

(2) They are by their Usenet history courtesy of Google, unsavory
characters.

(3) They have not added anything to the discussion(s) except to deliver
one-sided insults.

(4) They complain about alleged cross-posts from Steve by cross-
posting.

(5) They do not complain about cross-posts from folks who attack the
2FD or its author.

and conclude that these anon posters deserve only their kill file.
Unfortunately, they keep Mu_Tating so that it is impossible to killfile
them.

It is my hope that the above brings new readers of this thread up to
speed.

It will remain my pleasure to participate here on Usenet above the din
of hissing from the peanut gallery.

Sincerely,

God's Other Humble Servant

Steve



LOL. Anyone have an LC recipe for FRUITCAKE???????

--
************************************
Linda Harms
New York, NY

Life's but a walking shadow, a poor player
That struts and frets his hour upon the stage
And then is heard no more. It is a tale
Told by an idiot, full of sound and fury,
Signifying nothing.

Macbeth, Act 5 Scene 5

On Thu, 22 Jan 2004 15:42:44 -0500, Linda Harms wrote
(in message ):

snip

LOL. Anyone have an LC recipe for FRUITCAKE???????

Steve's LC FruitCake:

8 Atkins FrankenFruit Bars
3 cups Almond Flour
1 cup heavy cream
8 Tbs Splenda

Grind up FrankenFruit Bars into a paste. Blend in Almond Flour.
Chill. Add Cream and Splenda. Mix well. Pour into cake pan and let
sit until it hardens or turns rancid.


--
Steve

Weeding the Lord's Vineyards Since 2003

did Elvis tell you about this when you were on the UFO with him?

I'd love to respond. Ms. Harms, but if you didn't take time to put
your post anywhere within one Page Down scroll, I suppose it isn't
worth reading. So I didn't.

================================================== ===========

On Thu, 22 Jan 2004 15:42:44 -0500, Linda Harms
wrote:

In article et,
says...
On Thu, 22 Jan 2004 0:02:18 -0500, Dr. Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD wrote
(in message m):

JC Der Koenig wrote:

"Dr. Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD" wrote in message
...
Largest Mu_n wrote:

http://tinyurl.com/33svn

"Atkins is dead. I don't believe that bull**** that he dropped dead
slipping on a sidewalk, yeah right, joked Bloomberg.

Chowing down on huge plate of pasta, Bloomberg ripped into the man who
told dieters to stay away from carbohydrates.

Atkins died last April when he hit his head after slipping on a patch
of ice in front of his Manhattan office.

I actually went to his house out in South Hampton, said Bloomberg. It
was for a fundraiser about two years ago. It was for Pataki
fundraiser, and I went. The guy was fat -- a big guy but heavy and the
food was inedible. I took one appetizer and spit it out in the napkin.
It was just terrible."

Interesting interview. A word to the wise.


You're an idiot and a quack. There's no way you should be giving any type of
medical advice. That's why you don't have access to a hospital, and why you
were fired in Florida. This is also why you troll usenet for unsuspecting
"patients". You bought your credentials on the internet. Shame on you

Chungspeak snipped



FYI Note: I am aware that I am responding to a cross-posted message.
Because the author of the message to which I am responding did not
request that the header be trimmed, I have not trimmed it. If you are
upset about reading this message, a few suggestions:

(1) Yell at Chung
(2) Report Chung to his ISP
(3) Killfile this thread.
(4) Killfile me.
(5) Read about free speech.

This discussion(s) is related to the Two Foot Diet approach (2FD) which
I developed as a replacement for Dr. Chung's Amazing Logic Defying Two
Pound Diet to avoid having to carry a scale around.

In 2003, my wife and I watched an IMAX film about climbing the Bavarian
Alps and learned that despite their exhausting regimen, the climbers
consumed only 10 packages of wieners per week. That's less than 2 feet
of wieners per day! Since none of the climbers died from starvation, I
think it is safe to assume that 2 feet of food per day should be more
than adequate for us non-climbing folks.

So I started a little experiment with the agreeable obese friends in my
neighborhood. I gave them ordinary 6 inch rulers with instructions to
measure the length of everything substantial that passed into their
mouths. The only things exempted were water and sugar-free drinks. What
I learned was that my obese friends were consuming between 8 to 12 feet
of food per day! At the time, I was about 10 lbs. over my ideal body
weight so I decided to find out how much I was eating per day... 3
feet. I cut back to less than 2 feet and was at my proper weight in one
month.

My friends have responded similarly except they have taken longer
because of having to lose more weight. Admittedly, some of my obese
friends were especially slow to respond. They also happen to be the
ones with an unfortunate propensity for accidentally loosing their 6
inch rulers and taking weeks to buy replacements.

So here's the deal: measure all the food you eat, using it's longest
dimension, and keep the total length to less than two feet per day.
That's all there is. No scales, no counting calories or carbohydrates.
Heck, if you loose your ruler, you can even use the first joint of your
thumb to measure.

I am making this diet available as a public service and without
compensation.

If you have any questions, just see Dr. Chung's helpful FAQ and
substitute "Two Feet" for "Two Pounds" everywhere... what could be
simpler?

Though Steve invented this approach, he did not initiate this Usenet
discussion(s). His participation in this discussion(s) has been
voluntary and has been conducted in the spirit of community service.
His motivation has been entirely altruistic and has arisen from his
religious beliefs as a Christian. Jesus freely gave of Himself to
better the health of folks He touched:

http://www.heartmdphd.com/hypocrite.asp

From the outset, it has been clear that there are those who are
vehemently opposed to the 2 foot diet approach. They have debated
Steve on every perceived weakness of the 2 foot diet approach and have
lost the argument soundly at every point:

http://www.heartmdphd.com/wtlossfaqs.asp ... just substitute "Foot" for
"Pound" everywhere.

These debates are archived on Google in their entirety within this and
other discussion threads.

However, instead of conceding gracefully that they've lost the
argument(s), certain parties have redirected their hatred of the 2 foot
diet approach toward its author. The rationale appears to be "if you
can not discredit the message then try to discredit the messenger."

Initially, these folks accused the messenger of "trolling." A "troll"
is someone who posts under the cloak of anonymity messages with no
redeeming discussion value and with the sole purpose of starting
"flame" wars.

These hateful folks lost credibility with this accusation when the
following observations were made:

(1) Steve has not been posting anonymously.

(2) The 2FD has been on-topic for the Usenet discussion groups hosting
the discussion(s).

(a) Those who are failing low-carbing can dovetail LC with the 2FD
to achieve near-ideal weight.

(b) Obese diabetics improve their blood glucose control when their
weight becomes near-ideal.

(c) For (b) see: http://tinyurl.com/moreChungbull****

(3) Steve did not start the discussion(s).

(4) The 2 foot diet approach is 100% free (no profit motive).

Full of hatred, frustration, and desperation, certain individuals have
tried to attack Steve's credentials knowing full well that they were
attempting to libel him. One notable example is Dr. Chung who is
jealous that Steve has improved on his diet.

When the full light was cast on Dr. Chung's libelous statements, the
hateful folks hiding in the darkness of anonymity, most notably Mu,
only hissed louder in support of their fallen hero.

Fortunately, those who have been following this discussion(s) either
actively or as lurkers can easily dismiss the hisses, for what they
are, using the on-line third-party resources at:

http://www.heartmdphd.com/sign_up_to_be_a_patient.asp

Moreover, readers need only make the following observations concerning
the anon posters who continue to hiss, most notably Mu:

(1) They are anonymous and thus expect to have no credibility (or
accountability).

(2) They are by their Usenet history courtesy of Google, unsavory
characters.

(3) They have not added anything to the discussion(s) except to deliver
one-sided insults.

(4) They complain about alleged cross-posts from Steve by cross-
posting.

(5) They do not complain about cross-posts from folks who attack the
2FD or its author.

and conclude that these anon posters deserve only their kill file.
Unfortunately, they keep Mu_Tating so that it is impossible to killfile
them.

It is my hope that the above brings new readers of this thread up to
speed.

It will remain my pleasure to participate here on Usenet above the din
of hissing from the peanut gallery.

Sincerely,

God's Other Humble Servant

Steve



LOL. Anyone have an LC recipe for FRUITCAKE???????


http://antwrp.gsfc.nasa.gov/apod/ap000620.html
Lift well, Eat less, Walk fast, Live long.

On Thu, 22 Jan 2004 05:18:45 GMT, "Dickhead. Andrew B. Chung,
MiniDick/PrickDickhead" wrote:

the mu sock puppet trolls the group then the cardiologist that got
fired and chased out of florida posts his fad diet crap.

please ignore these posts and do not continue cross posting them.

the mu/chung only does this when people give it the attention it
craves.

In article ,
says...
I'd love to respond. Ms. Harms, but if you didn't take time to put
your post anywhere within one Page Down scroll, I suppose it isn't
worth reading. So I didn't.

================================================== ===========

That's your loss. Scrolling adds to the suspense, making for a much
more enjoyable reading experience.

--
************************************
Linda Harms
New York, NY

Life's but a walking shadow, a poor player
That struts and frets his hour upon the stage
And then is heard no more. It is a tale
Told by an idiot, full of sound and fury,
Signifying nothing.

Macbeth, Act 5 Scene 5

On Thu, 22 Jan 2004 17:24:45 -0500, Mack
wrote:

On Thu, 22 Jan 2004 05:18:45 GMT, "Dickhead. Andrew B. Chung,
MiniDick/PrickDickhead" wrote:

Darling.


http://antwrp.gsfc.nasa.gov/apod/ap000620.html
Lift well, Eat less, Walk fast, Live long.

"Ignoramus16608" wrote in message
...
I saw very few photographs of Dr Atkins. The ones I saw, had clothes
that obscured his body in a manner typical of fat people. It was very
hard to tell whether Dr Atkins was fat, or whether he just wore bulky
clothes. Does anyone have a recent picture of Dr Atkins where his body
type would be clearly discernible?

As for his death, it is also kind of interesting to find out just what
is it that Atkins died from. The story about falling on ice, may be
true, but raises enough questions as to merit looking a little bit
further.

i
223/176/180

I saw him live on Larry King's show not long before he died, and he was NOT
a fat guy by any means.

I also once fell on ice and hit my head so hard on the pavement that I had
dizzy spells for months, under the care of a neurologist for all that time,
MRI's and all kinds of expense hassle and misery. Yeah, you can
definitely die from falling on ice.

--
Evelyn

(To reply to me personally, remove sox)

Largest Mu_n wrote:

http://tinyurl.com/33svn

"Atkins is dead. I don't believe that bull**** that he dropped dead
slipping on a sidewalk, yeah right, joked Bloomberg.

Chowing down on huge plate of pasta, Bloomberg ripped into the man who
told dieters to stay away from carbohydrates.

Atkins died last April when he hit his head after slipping on a patch
of ice in front of his Manhattan office.

In the immortal words of Bugs Bunny: "What a maroon." Oh right, Bloomberg
too.

(n k bakker) wrote in message . com...
did Elvis tell you about this when you were on the UFO with him?

What can I say? The guy OWNS a owns Johns Hopkins University School of
Public Health. Johns Hopkins has been against Atkins since its
inception. They routinely create "science" for profit. Now Bloomberg
is getting personal and downright mean about it. Are you saying that
it is completly unrelated?

TC