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Study Shows Drug Reverses Heart Disease
http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20060314/.../heart_disease
I guess those people that were hoping cholesterol had no relation to heart disease will be disappointed by this study. -- the volleyballchick |
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Study Shows Drug Reverses Heart Disease
"Nunya B." wrote in
: http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20060314/.../heart_disease I guess those people that were hoping cholesterol had no relation to heart disease will be disappointed by this study. I think a study paid for by the company that makes the product just sounds dangerous. The product itself is not without risk as it stands. Studying 349 people for such a short time and reporting such results is questionable at best. Only 2/3s showed LDL cholesterol regression. That leaves 1/3 of the test subjects with no such benefit. Is that a safe margin to declare it a winning solution? Did all subjects eat the same diet? I dunno. Andy Thinking of the movie "The Fugitive" |
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Study Shows Drug Reverses Heart Disease
"Andy" q wrote in message ... "Nunya B." wrote in : http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20060314/.../heart_disease I guess those people that were hoping cholesterol had no relation to heart disease will be disappointed by this study. I think a study paid for by the company that makes the product just sounds dangerous. The product itself is not without risk as it stands. Studying 349 people for such a short time and reporting such results is questionable at best. Only 2/3s showed LDL cholesterol regression. That leaves 1/3 of the test subjects with no such benefit. Is that a safe margin to declare it a winning solution? Did all subjects eat the same diet? I dunno. Andy Thinking of the movie "The Fugitive" I agree that the results are always questionable, especially when the pharmaceutical industry is involved, but there could be some valuable information to glean from the results not having to do with the drugs. I certainly wouldn't recommend those drugs for anyone unless weight loss, diet, and exercise over a period of time did nothing to help. The fact that those who did drop their LDL levels and had a reversal of some of the heart disease indicators is what was appealing to me especially as just another side to the whole "cholesterol is meaningless" debate that goes on here. I posted the info because I knew it would be ignored by those who can't see that there are more sides to the issue than their own personal agendas. -- the volleyballchick |
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Study Shows Drug Reverses Heart Disease
Nunya B. wrote: "Andy" q wrote in message ... "Nunya B." wrote in : http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20060314/.../heart_disease I guess those people that were hoping cholesterol had no relation to heart disease will be disappointed by this study. I think a study paid for by the company that makes the product just sounds dangerous. The product itself is not without risk as it stands. Studying 349 people for such a short time and reporting such results is questionable at best. Only 2/3s showed LDL cholesterol regression. That leaves 1/3 of the test subjects with no such benefit. Is that a safe margin to declare it a winning solution? Did all subjects eat the same diet? I dunno. Andy Thinking of the movie "The Fugitive" I agree that the results are always questionable, especially when the pharmaceutical industry is involved, but there could be some valuable information to glean from the results not having to do with the drugs. I certainly wouldn't recommend those drugs for anyone unless weight loss, diet, and exercise over a period of time did nothing to help. The fact that those who did drop their LDL levels and had a reversal of some of the heart disease indicators is what was appealing to me especially as just another side to the whole "cholesterol is meaningless" debate that goes on here. I posted the info because I knew it would be ignored by those who can't see that there are more sides to the issue than their own personal agendas. -- the volleyballchick That wasn't the only study released this week linking cholesterol and heart disease. http://biz.yahoo.com/prnews/060314/nytu039.html?.v=43 |
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Study Shows Drug Reverses Heart Disease
"Beverly" wrote in message ps.com... Nunya B. wrote: "Andy" q wrote in message ... "Nunya B." wrote in : http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20060314/.../heart_disease I guess those people that were hoping cholesterol had no relation to heart disease will be disappointed by this study. I think a study paid for by the company that makes the product just sounds dangerous. The product itself is not without risk as it stands. Studying 349 people for such a short time and reporting such results is questionable at best. Only 2/3s showed LDL cholesterol regression. That leaves 1/3 of the test subjects with no such benefit. Is that a safe margin to declare it a winning solution? Did all subjects eat the same diet? I dunno. Andy Thinking of the movie "The Fugitive" I agree that the results are always questionable, especially when the pharmaceutical industry is involved, but there could be some valuable information to glean from the results not having to do with the drugs. I certainly wouldn't recommend those drugs for anyone unless weight loss, diet, and exercise over a period of time did nothing to help. The fact that those who did drop their LDL levels and had a reversal of some of the heart disease indicators is what was appealing to me especially as just another side to the whole "cholesterol is meaningless" debate that goes on here. I posted the info because I knew it would be ignored by those who can't see that there are more sides to the issue than their own personal agendas. -- the volleyballchick That wasn't the only study released this week linking cholesterol and heart disease. http://biz.yahoo.com/prnews/060314/nytu039.html?.v=43 It's another drug company funded study but yes, it does demonstrate a link. I don't necessarily believe in using drugs to lower cholesterol unless the circumstances are extreme. As someone who is genetically predisposed to heart disease and with PCOS, another factor that increases my risk, I take interest in this info no matter where it comes from. As I said before, this info is as important as the other studies that get crossposted here by others - studies I also read and don't ignore them just because I don't agree with them or their posting source. -- the volleyballchick |
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Study Shows Drug Reverses Heart Disease
Ignoramus4546 wrote in
: Studying 349 people for such a short time and reporting such results is questionable at best. Only 2/3s showed LDL cholesterol regression. That leaves 1/3 of the test subjects with no such benefit. Is that a safe margin to declare it a winning solution? Did all subjects eat the same diet? Good question. i, Another omission wss this wasn't a controlled study. With some taking placebo. I'll step back from this discussion (but continue to read it) because I know volleyballchick, Beverly, you and others have more knowledge in medical science. It just read like a rose-colored glasses study to me. All the best, Andy |
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Study Shows Drug Reverses Heart Disease
In article , Ignoramus4546
wrote: On Tue, 14 Mar 2006 12:53:03 -0600, Andy q wrote: Ignoramus4546 wrote in : Studying 349 people for such a short time and reporting such results is questionable at best. Only 2/3s showed LDL cholesterol regression. That leaves 1/3 of the test subjects with no such benefit. Is that a safe margin to declare it a winning solution? Did all subjects eat the same diet? Good question. i, Another omission wss this wasn't a controlled study. With some taking placebo. I missed that completely. Thank you for pointing it out. You missed something. Guess you didn't read the entire thing and here I was defnding your consistency LOL! |
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Study Shows Drug Reverses Heart Disease
"Ignoramus4546" wrote in message ... On Tue, 14 Mar 2006 14:16:22 -0500, Carol Frilegh wrote: In article , Ignoramus4546 wrote: On Tue, 14 Mar 2006 12:53:03 -0600, Andy q wrote: Ignoramus4546 wrote in : Studying 349 people for such a short time and reporting such results is questionable at best. Only 2/3s showed LDL cholesterol regression. That leaves 1/3 of the test subjects with no such benefit. Is that a safe margin to declare it a winning solution? Did all subjects eat the same diet? Good question. i, Another omission wss this wasn't a controlled study. With some taking placebo. I missed that completely. Thank you for pointing it out. You missed something. Guess you didn't read the entire thing and here I was defnding your consistency LOL! What a crime against humanity! yeah really, the next thing you know someone will be all up in arms and calling you a liar for making such an error. Not like any reasonable person would do such a thing... -- the volleyballchick |
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Study Shows Drug Reverses Heart Disease
Nunya B. wrote:
http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20060314/.../heart_disease I guess those people that were hoping cholesterol had no relation to heart disease will be disappointed by this study. I've heard that people with statins die with low cholesterol... i.e., it DOES lower cholesterol but there is no improved mortality rate. In fact, they have poorer quality of life between kidney problems and muscle problems. My MIL has pretty severe muscle pain (probably caused by her statins) that keeps her from being physically active. This study did not show a reduction in heart attacks OR improved mortality rates. And it was funded by the manufacturer. Be careful. Dally |
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Study Shows Drug Reverses Heart Disease
"Dally" wrote in message ... Nunya B. wrote: http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20060314/.../heart_disease I guess those people that were hoping cholesterol had no relation to heart disease will be disappointed by this study. I've heard that people with statins die with low cholesterol... i.e., it DOES lower cholesterol but there is no improved mortality rate. In fact, they have poorer quality of life between kidney problems and muscle problems. My MIL has pretty severe muscle pain (probably caused by her statins) that keeps her from being physically active. This study did not show a reduction in heart attacks OR improved mortality rates. And it was funded by the manufacturer. Be careful. and I'll say AGAIN that I don't believe anyone should take statins except as a last resort. I also don't believe that there is no link between cholesterol and heart disease. Maybe I'll be proven wrong someday but it hasn't happened. -- the volleyballchick |
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