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Old September 7th, 2004, 11:21 PM
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"Roger Zoul" wrote in message ...
Daniel Hoffmeister wrote:
|| Bob M wrote:
||| In preparation for my century (100 miles) a mere two weeks from
||| now, I rode 75.4 miles today. I lifted weights Monday (no squats,
||| just leg presses), rode 20 miles Tuesday, rode 18 miles Thursday,
||| lifted weights Friday (including squats), so I did so some carb
||| loading yesterday (fruit, "bread" -- called "fitness bread," it's
||| sliced very thin and it's very dense, with 7g fiber per "slice" and
||| 21g carbs per slice, for an effective carb count of 14g/slice --
||| and peanut butter, an "asian" salad having some rice noodles, and
||| some pizza). Until that time, I kept my carb count relatively low
||| per day.

||| The data from my ride:

||| 75.4 miles (the farthest I've ever ridden)
||| 5:41 total time
||| 13.3 mph
||| average HR of 144 (79% of my max HR)
||| about 1 hour spent at 90% of my max HR or above
||| about 3.5 hours spent at 80% of my max HR or above
||| about 5,000 calories burnt according to my HR monitor
||| about 4,000 or so feet gained
||| about 112 ounces of water gulped
||
|| Wow! That's impressive. Aren't stats fun? The best thing I ever
|| did was get one of those heart rate monitors.
||
||| about 1/2 hour lying on the floor, unmoving, after getting home
||
|| That half hour feels real good, doesn't it? Especially once the room
|| stops rotating ;-)

I have yet to find the need to lie on the floor. What's that about?


lack of carbs no dount.
  #42  
Old September 7th, 2004, 11:21 PM
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"Roger Zoul" wrote in message ...
Daniel Hoffmeister wrote:
|| Bob M wrote:
||| In preparation for my century (100 miles) a mere two weeks from
||| now, I rode 75.4 miles today. I lifted weights Monday (no squats,
||| just leg presses), rode 20 miles Tuesday, rode 18 miles Thursday,
||| lifted weights Friday (including squats), so I did so some carb
||| loading yesterday (fruit, "bread" -- called "fitness bread," it's
||| sliced very thin and it's very dense, with 7g fiber per "slice" and
||| 21g carbs per slice, for an effective carb count of 14g/slice --
||| and peanut butter, an "asian" salad having some rice noodles, and
||| some pizza). Until that time, I kept my carb count relatively low
||| per day.

||| The data from my ride:

||| 75.4 miles (the farthest I've ever ridden)
||| 5:41 total time
||| 13.3 mph
||| average HR of 144 (79% of my max HR)
||| about 1 hour spent at 90% of my max HR or above
||| about 3.5 hours spent at 80% of my max HR or above
||| about 5,000 calories burnt according to my HR monitor
||| about 4,000 or so feet gained
||| about 112 ounces of water gulped
||
|| Wow! That's impressive. Aren't stats fun? The best thing I ever
|| did was get one of those heart rate monitors.
||
||| about 1/2 hour lying on the floor, unmoving, after getting home
||
|| That half hour feels real good, doesn't it? Especially once the room
|| stops rotating ;-)

I have yet to find the need to lie on the floor. What's that about?


lack of carbs no dount.
  #43  
Old September 7th, 2004, 11:22 PM
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"Roger Zoul" wrote in message ...
Daniel Hoffmeister wrote:
|| Bob M wrote:
||| In preparation for my century (100 miles) a mere two weeks from
||| now, I rode 75.4 miles today. I lifted weights Monday (no squats,
||| just leg presses), rode 20 miles Tuesday, rode 18 miles Thursday,
||| lifted weights Friday (including squats), so I did so some carb
||| loading yesterday (fruit, "bread" -- called "fitness bread," it's
||| sliced very thin and it's very dense, with 7g fiber per "slice" and
||| 21g carbs per slice, for an effective carb count of 14g/slice --
||| and peanut butter, an "asian" salad having some rice noodles, and
||| some pizza). Until that time, I kept my carb count relatively low
||| per day.

||| The data from my ride:

||| 75.4 miles (the farthest I've ever ridden)
||| 5:41 total time
||| 13.3 mph
||| average HR of 144 (79% of my max HR)
||| about 1 hour spent at 90% of my max HR or above
||| about 3.5 hours spent at 80% of my max HR or above
||| about 5,000 calories burnt according to my HR monitor
||| about 4,000 or so feet gained
||| about 112 ounces of water gulped
||
|| Wow! That's impressive. Aren't stats fun? The best thing I ever
|| did was get one of those heart rate monitors.
||
||| about 1/2 hour lying on the floor, unmoving, after getting home
||
|| That half hour feels real good, doesn't it? Especially once the room
|| stops rotating ;-)

I have yet to find the need to lie on the floor. What's that about?


lack of carbs no doubt.
  #44  
Old September 7th, 2004, 11:22 PM
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"Roger Zoul" wrote in message ...
Daniel Hoffmeister wrote:
|| Bob M wrote:
||| In preparation for my century (100 miles) a mere two weeks from
||| now, I rode 75.4 miles today. I lifted weights Monday (no squats,
||| just leg presses), rode 20 miles Tuesday, rode 18 miles Thursday,
||| lifted weights Friday (including squats), so I did so some carb
||| loading yesterday (fruit, "bread" -- called "fitness bread," it's
||| sliced very thin and it's very dense, with 7g fiber per "slice" and
||| 21g carbs per slice, for an effective carb count of 14g/slice --
||| and peanut butter, an "asian" salad having some rice noodles, and
||| some pizza). Until that time, I kept my carb count relatively low
||| per day.

||| The data from my ride:

||| 75.4 miles (the farthest I've ever ridden)
||| 5:41 total time
||| 13.3 mph
||| average HR of 144 (79% of my max HR)
||| about 1 hour spent at 90% of my max HR or above
||| about 3.5 hours spent at 80% of my max HR or above
||| about 5,000 calories burnt according to my HR monitor
||| about 4,000 or so feet gained
||| about 112 ounces of water gulped
||
|| Wow! That's impressive. Aren't stats fun? The best thing I ever
|| did was get one of those heart rate monitors.
||
||| about 1/2 hour lying on the floor, unmoving, after getting home
||
|| That half hour feels real good, doesn't it? Especially once the room
|| stops rotating ;-)

I have yet to find the need to lie on the floor. What's that about?


lack of carbs no doubt.
  #45  
Old September 7th, 2004, 11:22 PM
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"Roger Zoul" wrote in message ...
Daniel Hoffmeister wrote:
|| Bob M wrote:
||| In preparation for my century (100 miles) a mere two weeks from
||| now, I rode 75.4 miles today. I lifted weights Monday (no squats,
||| just leg presses), rode 20 miles Tuesday, rode 18 miles Thursday,
||| lifted weights Friday (including squats), so I did so some carb
||| loading yesterday (fruit, "bread" -- called "fitness bread," it's
||| sliced very thin and it's very dense, with 7g fiber per "slice" and
||| 21g carbs per slice, for an effective carb count of 14g/slice --
||| and peanut butter, an "asian" salad having some rice noodles, and
||| some pizza). Until that time, I kept my carb count relatively low
||| per day.

||| The data from my ride:

||| 75.4 miles (the farthest I've ever ridden)
||| 5:41 total time
||| 13.3 mph
||| average HR of 144 (79% of my max HR)
||| about 1 hour spent at 90% of my max HR or above
||| about 3.5 hours spent at 80% of my max HR or above
||| about 5,000 calories burnt according to my HR monitor
||| about 4,000 or so feet gained
||| about 112 ounces of water gulped
||
|| Wow! That's impressive. Aren't stats fun? The best thing I ever
|| did was get one of those heart rate monitors.
||
||| about 1/2 hour lying on the floor, unmoving, after getting home
||
|| That half hour feels real good, doesn't it? Especially once the room
|| stops rotating ;-)

I have yet to find the need to lie on the floor. What's that about?


lack of carbs no doubt.
  #46  
Old September 7th, 2004, 11:24 PM
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"Roger Zoul" wrote in message ...
Pat wrote:
||||| Before you go out and spend money, loosen up your shoes a bit.
||||| Feet tend to swell when you ride and that could be part of the
||||| problem.

||| I'll try that on my ride this weekend....another metric century.
||| Were it not for this problem, I feel I could do the full century.
||| But I can't imagine endurance that pain for 40 miles (it starts up
||| at around 60 miles without fail, it seems).
|||
||| Of course, I don't feel I wear my shoes too tight, but I'll try your
||| suggestion anyway simply because I might be wrong! And the swelling
||| seems plausible.
||
|| Last year, a guy at the LBS told me to take an extra pair of socks.
|| He said to stop at the rest stop nearest the halfway point and
|| change socks. He said it would give me a lift. Well, you know what?
|| He was right! The dry socks were nice, but I also think the
|| feeling had to do with sitting down, taking the feet out of the
|| shoes and massaging them a bit before putting the new socks on. Even
|| just getting air on hot feet helped a lot.
||

I have, in the past, gotten off the bike and massaged my feet on the side of
the road. Thing is, my socks don't feel wet, as they are those coolmax
socks with the wicking property. Of course, it can't hurt to try that
(changing socks) either since the cost is zero Heat does seem to be a
partial factor in all of this - except that on my last ride where the
burning occur, it was a very cool day. I think pedal pressure was in play
then. Come to think of it, I had not been on the bike in over a week due to
catching a cold. Who knows...


stiffer soles and/or larger contact patch with your pedals can cure
hot foot. if you're using cheap shoes and SPD-type pedals it might be
time to upgrade to something better.
  #47  
Old September 7th, 2004, 11:24 PM
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"Roger Zoul" wrote in message ...
Pat wrote:
||||| Before you go out and spend money, loosen up your shoes a bit.
||||| Feet tend to swell when you ride and that could be part of the
||||| problem.

||| I'll try that on my ride this weekend....another metric century.
||| Were it not for this problem, I feel I could do the full century.
||| But I can't imagine endurance that pain for 40 miles (it starts up
||| at around 60 miles without fail, it seems).
|||
||| Of course, I don't feel I wear my shoes too tight, but I'll try your
||| suggestion anyway simply because I might be wrong! And the swelling
||| seems plausible.
||
|| Last year, a guy at the LBS told me to take an extra pair of socks.
|| He said to stop at the rest stop nearest the halfway point and
|| change socks. He said it would give me a lift. Well, you know what?
|| He was right! The dry socks were nice, but I also think the
|| feeling had to do with sitting down, taking the feet out of the
|| shoes and massaging them a bit before putting the new socks on. Even
|| just getting air on hot feet helped a lot.
||

I have, in the past, gotten off the bike and massaged my feet on the side of
the road. Thing is, my socks don't feel wet, as they are those coolmax
socks with the wicking property. Of course, it can't hurt to try that
(changing socks) either since the cost is zero Heat does seem to be a
partial factor in all of this - except that on my last ride where the
burning occur, it was a very cool day. I think pedal pressure was in play
then. Come to think of it, I had not been on the bike in over a week due to
catching a cold. Who knows...


stiffer soles and/or larger contact patch with your pedals can cure
hot foot. if you're using cheap shoes and SPD-type pedals it might be
time to upgrade to something better.
  #48  
Old September 7th, 2004, 11:59 PM
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billydee wrote:
|| "Roger Zoul" wrote in message
|| ...
||| Pat wrote:
|||||||| Before you go out and spend money, loosen up your shoes a bit.
|||||||| Feet tend to swell when you ride and that could be part of the
|||||||| problem.
|||
|||||| I'll try that on my ride this weekend....another metric century.
|||||| Were it not for this problem, I feel I could do the full century.
|||||| But I can't imagine endurance that pain for 40 miles (it starts
|||||| up
|||||| at around 60 miles without fail, it seems).
||||||
|||||| Of course, I don't feel I wear my shoes too tight, but I'll try
|||||| your
|||||| suggestion anyway simply because I might be wrong! And the
|||||| swelling
|||||| seems plausible.
|||||
||||| Last year, a guy at the LBS told me to take an extra pair of
||||| socks.
||||| He said to stop at the rest stop nearest the halfway point and
||||| change socks. He said it would give me a lift. Well, you know
||||| what?
||||| He was right! The dry socks were nice, but I also think the
||||| feeling had to do with sitting down, taking the feet out of the
||||| shoes and massaging them a bit before putting the new socks on.
||||| Even
||||| just getting air on hot feet helped a lot.
|||||
|||
||| I have, in the past, gotten off the bike and massaged my feet on
||| the side of
||| the road. Thing is, my socks don't feel wet, as they are those
||| coolmax
||| socks with the wicking property. Of course, it can't hurt to try
||| that (changing socks) either since the cost is zero Heat does
||| seem to be a
||| partial factor in all of this - except that on my last ride where
||| the
||| burning occur, it was a very cool day. I think pedal pressure was
||| in play
||| then. Come to think of it, I had not been on the bike in over a
||| week due to
||| catching a cold. Who knows...
||
|| stiffer soles and/or larger contact patch with your pedals can cure
|| hot foot. if you're using cheap shoes and SPD-type pedals it might be
|| time to upgrade to something better.

yeah, that seems like the likely situation....i'm doing a metric century
this weekend, and if the other techniques don't help, them I'm looking for
new pedals. My shoes cost about $70 so I don't think there are exactly
cheap, but the SPD pedals came with the bike and they definitely don't offer
much in the way of contact area. I have been looking at some Crank pedals
that are SPD compatible that seem to have a lot more contact area...that
would allow me to avoid buying new shoes.


  #49  
Old September 7th, 2004, 11:59 PM
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billydee wrote:
|| "Roger Zoul" wrote in message
|| ...
||| Pat wrote:
|||||||| Before you go out and spend money, loosen up your shoes a bit.
|||||||| Feet tend to swell when you ride and that could be part of the
|||||||| problem.
|||
|||||| I'll try that on my ride this weekend....another metric century.
|||||| Were it not for this problem, I feel I could do the full century.
|||||| But I can't imagine endurance that pain for 40 miles (it starts
|||||| up
|||||| at around 60 miles without fail, it seems).
||||||
|||||| Of course, I don't feel I wear my shoes too tight, but I'll try
|||||| your
|||||| suggestion anyway simply because I might be wrong! And the
|||||| swelling
|||||| seems plausible.
|||||
||||| Last year, a guy at the LBS told me to take an extra pair of
||||| socks.
||||| He said to stop at the rest stop nearest the halfway point and
||||| change socks. He said it would give me a lift. Well, you know
||||| what?
||||| He was right! The dry socks were nice, but I also think the
||||| feeling had to do with sitting down, taking the feet out of the
||||| shoes and massaging them a bit before putting the new socks on.
||||| Even
||||| just getting air on hot feet helped a lot.
|||||
|||
||| I have, in the past, gotten off the bike and massaged my feet on
||| the side of
||| the road. Thing is, my socks don't feel wet, as they are those
||| coolmax
||| socks with the wicking property. Of course, it can't hurt to try
||| that (changing socks) either since the cost is zero Heat does
||| seem to be a
||| partial factor in all of this - except that on my last ride where
||| the
||| burning occur, it was a very cool day. I think pedal pressure was
||| in play
||| then. Come to think of it, I had not been on the bike in over a
||| week due to
||| catching a cold. Who knows...
||
|| stiffer soles and/or larger contact patch with your pedals can cure
|| hot foot. if you're using cheap shoes and SPD-type pedals it might be
|| time to upgrade to something better.

yeah, that seems like the likely situation....i'm doing a metric century
this weekend, and if the other techniques don't help, them I'm looking for
new pedals. My shoes cost about $70 so I don't think there are exactly
cheap, but the SPD pedals came with the bike and they definitely don't offer
much in the way of contact area. I have been looking at some Crank pedals
that are SPD compatible that seem to have a lot more contact area...that
would allow me to avoid buying new shoes.


  #50  
Old September 8th, 2004, 12:58 PM
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yeah, that seems like the likely situation....i'm doing a metric century
this weekend, and if the other techniques don't help, them I'm looking for
new pedals. My shoes cost about $70 so I don't think there are exactly
cheap, but the SPD pedals came with the bike and they definitely don't

offer
much in the way of contact area. I have been looking at some Crank pedals
that are SPD compatible that seem to have a lot more contact area...that
would allow me to avoid buying new shoes.


First, turn your shoes over and have a look at the arrangement of the soles.
Many brands of shoes are drilled so that more than one type of cleat can be
used.

Pat in TX




 




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