Long distance running

Anyone have any succes with long distance running while on a low carb diet ?

I don't do actual long distance running but I run as much as 6 miles 4 times
a week and occasionally run 8 on about 50 or less grams a day. It hasn't
really made a huge impact but there are definitely low energy days. I find
it helps to run just after I eat, usually mid-day. I would imagine running
longer may be more difficult at that carb level but can't tell you from
experience.

Mertz

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| Anyone have any succes with long distance running while on a low carb
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I consider it a success to walk across the room some days g

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Anyone have any succes with long distance running while on a low carb diet ?

Yes, just make sure to adjust your caloric intake upwards to
compensate for the increased energy output of running. Also, work up
your mileage slowly, your body has to get accustomed to mobilizing
it's fat stores for energy quickly enough to support LD running.

-josh

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Anyone have any succes with long distance running while on a low carb diet ?

no.....though it would depend on what you mean by long distance.

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I cross train biking, trail running, hiking, or cycling, with one long event
and one moderately long event on the weekend. For example, last weekend I
did 1 hour 40 mins of moderately high intensity trail running (at 80% max
HR - singletrack hilly terrain) on Saturday; and 3 hours 15 mins cycling (at
60% max HR - over hilly terrain) on Sunday.

On weekdays, my carb rate is about 60-80gm/day, and that allows 45-60 mins
daily training with light weights on M/W/F. On weekends however I use a TKD
(Targeted Ketogenic Diet), which allows extra carbs before, during, and
immediately after especially long or intense periods of exercise. In
addition to a base of adequate protiens and fats, the night before a
demanding event, I eat a measured amount of complex carbs such as wild rice.
Normally I would eat only a large portion of vegetables with my weekday
meals and very little carbs. During the endurance even and for up to 2 hours
after I eat generous amounts of simple carbs with a little protien. This
allows for great recovery.

Many in this group seem to have had success eating very low carb even during
long-distance eudurance events. Some also suggest that this is possible for
everyone if one gives one's body time (several months) to adapt to burning
primarily fats for fuel. That may work for many, but it did not work for
me. Last year I ate a very restricted carb diet, but with plenty of
vegetables and plenty of protien and an adequate amount of fats (I was not
losing weight because I had reached my goal). I started this regime in
January, and by June my training was far below what it had been the year
before and my conditioning was sub-par. I simply could not recover from
long-distance events and had a great deal of trouble keeping up my daily
workouts. I took far more days off than before. Until I learned about TKD
my performance was very disappointing and I really didn't enjoy exercise
anymore. Now that I use TKD I once again love to exercise and it gives me
alot of power that I lacked last year. Nobody can tell me that I didn't
give my body a chance to adapt. People are different. I was not a gifted
endurance athlete to start with, but was a very good sprinter. I take issue
with the purests in this group that suggest that carbs are not a good fuel
source for exercise. I know many in this group have issues with insulin
resistance, and that will have to be taken into account, but I suggest that
exercise metabolism IS different from the daily metabolism. The muscles
have a place to store up to 2 hours of glycogen fuel. Despite what some say
in this group, you CAN lose weight eating a low carb diet even if your
glycogen stores are not empty. I say that you have to know where your
glycogen reserves are from experience, and once they are full or close to
full, you simply back off the carbs until you need more of them. Carbs are
a special fuel to be sure, but are not one to be disdained. It is precisely
the abuse of this special fuel that leads to health problems. Once one has
those health problems, or if one is losing weight, then of course one has to
tailor their program to those needs. But for me targeted use of carb fuels
lets me enjoy the power I always had before in my exercise, while eating a
low carb diet the rest of the time keeps me healthy and my weight
controlled.

- Tony

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No.

qTrader wrote:
Bill wrote in message
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Anyone have any succes with long distance running while on a low
carb diet ?

I completed a marathon walk of 800 miles whilst on a high protein diet
and noticed no side-effects other than deeper/longer sleep. Come to
think of it, I ate very little carb over a 19 day period.

I had previously used large quantities of Dextrosol on other walks, but
on this particular occasion I had trained for 3 months without, so I
suppose my body had accomodated to drawing on fats.

kev

What's that got to do with running?

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head.


"bidkev" wrote in message
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qTrader wrote:
Bill wrote in message
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Anyone have any succes with long distance running while on a low
carb diet ?

I completed a marathon walk of 800 miles whilst on a high protein diet
and noticed no side-effects other than deeper/longer sleep. Come to
think of it, I ate very little carb over a 19 day period.

I had previously used large quantities of Dextrosol on other walks, but
on this particular occasion I had trained for 3 months without, so I
suppose my body had accomodated to drawing on fats.

kev

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