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The Lancet - we need 150g carbs/day
http://www.miami.com/mld/miamiherald...ld/9566646.htm
"The most frequent complaints with low-carb diets are constipation and headache, which are readily explained by the lack of fruit, vegetables and whole grains, Astrup said." TOTAL NONSENSE. There are numerous low carb vegetables. "We have known for many years that there is a minimum intake of carbohydrate necessary to maintain the normal function of your body and that is approximately 150 grams a day," he said. "But, if on the Atkins diet you go down to 20 to 30 grams in the induction phase, then maybe go up to 100 grams, still you are far below what your body needs." Comments? gtomey |
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An article in Reuters about the Lancet article said:
"Those on the Atkins diet for a year also started to complain of headaches, muscle weakness, cramps and diarrhea, which Astrup said could be explained by the reduced levels of fruits, vegetables and whole-grain cereals and bread that are consumed. " Note that this one says diarrhea, where the quote from the OP says constipation. I'm at 9 months of low carb with only occasional vegetables. I have none of the complaints listed. I have read about constipation for some people, but most of the complaints listed sound like induction complaints. Does anybody have a link to the actual Lancet item? Cubit 311/219/165 "Gregory Toomey" wrote in message ... http://www.miami.com/mld/miamiherald...ld/9566646.htm "The most frequent complaints with low-carb diets are constipation and headache, which are readily explained by the lack of fruit, vegetables and whole grains, Astrup said." TOTAL NONSENSE. There are numerous low carb vegetables. "We have known for many years that there is a minimum intake of carbohydrate necessary to maintain the normal function of your body and that is approximately 150 grams a day," he said. "But, if on the Atkins diet you go down to 20 to 30 grams in the induction phase, then maybe go up to 100 grams, still you are far below what your body needs." Comments? gtomey |
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An article in Reuters about the Lancet article said:
"Those on the Atkins diet for a year also started to complain of headaches, muscle weakness, cramps and diarrhea, which Astrup said could be explained by the reduced levels of fruits, vegetables and whole-grain cereals and bread that are consumed. " Note that this one says diarrhea, where the quote from the OP says constipation. I'm at 9 months of low carb with only occasional vegetables. I have none of the complaints listed. I have read about constipation for some people, but most of the complaints listed sound like induction complaints. Does anybody have a link to the actual Lancet item? Cubit 311/219/165 "Gregory Toomey" wrote in message ... http://www.miami.com/mld/miamiherald...ld/9566646.htm "The most frequent complaints with low-carb diets are constipation and headache, which are readily explained by the lack of fruit, vegetables and whole grains, Astrup said." TOTAL NONSENSE. There are numerous low carb vegetables. "We have known for many years that there is a minimum intake of carbohydrate necessary to maintain the normal function of your body and that is approximately 150 grams a day," he said. "But, if on the Atkins diet you go down to 20 to 30 grams in the induction phase, then maybe go up to 100 grams, still you are far below what your body needs." Comments? gtomey |
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On Fri, 03 Sep 2004 23:47:16 +1000, Gregory Toomey
wrote: http://www.miami.com/mld/miamiherald...ld/9566646.htm "The most frequent complaints with low-carb diets are constipation and headache, which are readily explained by the lack of fruit, vegetables and whole grains, Astrup said." TOTAL NONSENSE. There are numerous low carb vegetables. "We have known for many years that there is a minimum intake of carbohydrate necessary to maintain the normal function of your body and that is approximately 150 grams a day," he said. "But, if on the Atkins diet you go down to 20 to 30 grams in the induction phase, then maybe go up to 100 grams, still you are far below what your body needs." Comments? gtomey I've operated below 150g/day for a long, long time. This makes the Lancet look like idiots. -- Bob in CT Remove ".x" to reply |
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On Fri, 03 Sep 2004 23:47:16 +1000, Gregory Toomey
wrote: http://www.miami.com/mld/miamiherald...ld/9566646.htm "The most frequent complaints with low-carb diets are constipation and headache, which are readily explained by the lack of fruit, vegetables and whole grains, Astrup said." TOTAL NONSENSE. There are numerous low carb vegetables. "We have known for many years that there is a minimum intake of carbohydrate necessary to maintain the normal function of your body and that is approximately 150 grams a day," he said. "But, if on the Atkins diet you go down to 20 to 30 grams in the induction phase, then maybe go up to 100 grams, still you are far below what your body needs." Comments? gtomey I've operated below 150g/day for a long, long time. This makes the Lancet look like idiots. -- Bob in CT Remove ".x" to reply |
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Cubit wrote:
snip Does anybody have a link to the actual Lancet item? http://www.thelancet.com/ You have to fill out a free registration form to read the article. |
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Cubit wrote:
snip Does anybody have a link to the actual Lancet item? http://www.thelancet.com/ You have to fill out a free registration form to read the article. |
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On Fri, 03 Sep 2004 23:47:16 +1000, Gregory Toomey
wrote: http://www.miami.com/mld/miamiherald...ld/9566646.htm "The most frequent complaints with low-carb diets are constipation and headache, which are readily explained by the lack of fruit, vegetables and whole grains, Astrup said." TOTAL NONSENSE. There are numerous low carb vegetables. "We have known for many years that there is a minimum intake of carbohydrate necessary to maintain the normal function of your body and that is approximately 150 grams a day," he said. "But, if on the Atkins diet you go down to 20 to 30 grams in the induction phase, then maybe go up to 100 grams, still you are far below what your body needs." Comments? gtomey It is amazing how published and otherwise well respected "experts" can so blithely ignore basic biochemistry with a straight face and still sleep at night. The liver produces a high quality glucose from amino acids. It's good stuff man! (apologies to what's his name) Morals for sale or rent. Lies just fifty cents. Loose facts and opinions here. Just give me that money dear. Morals for sale. Anyone who doesn't understand the "150 grams a day" might want to check out a copy of "The Ketogenic Diet" by Lyle Mc Donald and Elzi Volk from the library. Lee Rodgers disclosu using the link below will $$$ me "The Ketogenic Diet" http://tinyurl.com/6gmj5 |
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On Fri, 03 Sep 2004 23:47:16 +1000, Gregory Toomey
wrote: http://www.miami.com/mld/miamiherald...ld/9566646.htm "The most frequent complaints with low-carb diets are constipation and headache, which are readily explained by the lack of fruit, vegetables and whole grains, Astrup said." TOTAL NONSENSE. There are numerous low carb vegetables. "We have known for many years that there is a minimum intake of carbohydrate necessary to maintain the normal function of your body and that is approximately 150 grams a day," he said. "But, if on the Atkins diet you go down to 20 to 30 grams in the induction phase, then maybe go up to 100 grams, still you are far below what your body needs." Comments? gtomey It is amazing how published and otherwise well respected "experts" can so blithely ignore basic biochemistry with a straight face and still sleep at night. The liver produces a high quality glucose from amino acids. It's good stuff man! (apologies to what's his name) Morals for sale or rent. Lies just fifty cents. Loose facts and opinions here. Just give me that money dear. Morals for sale. Anyone who doesn't understand the "150 grams a day" might want to check out a copy of "The Ketogenic Diet" by Lyle Mc Donald and Elzi Volk from the library. Lee Rodgers disclosu using the link below will $$$ me "The Ketogenic Diet" http://tinyurl.com/6gmj5 |
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"Bob in CT" wrote in message news On Fri, 03 Sep 2004 23:47:16 +1000, Gregory Toomey wrote: http://www.miami.com/mld/miamiherald...ld/9566646.htm "The most frequent complaints with low-carb diets are constipation and headache, which are readily explained by the lack of fruit, vegetables and whole grains, Astrup said." TOTAL NONSENSE. There are numerous low carb vegetables. "We have known for many years that there is a minimum intake of carbohydrate necessary to maintain the normal function of your body and that is approximately 150 grams a day," he said. "But, if on the Atkins diet you go down to 20 to 30 grams in the induction phase, then maybe go up to 100 grams, still you are far below what your body needs." Comments? gtomey I've operated below 150g/day for a long, long time. This makes the Lancet look like idiots. -- Bob in CT Remove ".x" to reply Not only have many of us consumed less than 150g/day (actually under 70g/day) long term, but according to prevailing theory I burn more carbs in my morning workouts than I consume each day (i.e. well over twice the calories of my max carb intake). The accumulating literature on low carb diets from the medical community looks pretty much the same as the literature on the diet-cholesterol hypothesis. No matter that the data show, the conclusions are always the same nonsense. Alan |
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