Pizza companies in distress?

"Pat" wrote in message
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i have noticed a lot of local pizza companies offering sales--and big
ones---on their pizzas in the last few weeks. We have heard that bakeries,
pasta companies, and even flour companies being affected by the "low carb
craze" and now I wonder if the pizzerias are suffering from reduced sales
as
well.

Pat



You know, I noticed the billboard of a local Domino's Pizza yesterday
sporting the message "Hot wings - no carbs".

I'm not making this up.

Why don't the pizza companies try making pan pizza with no flour base at
all.?We like all the things ON the crust. NLF
"Jim Bard" wrote in message
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"Pat" wrote in message
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i have noticed a lot of local pizza companies offering sales--and big
ones---on their pizzas in the last few weeks. We have heard that bakeries,
pasta companies, and even flour companies being affected by the "low carb
craze" and now I wonder if the pizzerias are suffering from reduced sales
as
well.

Pat



You know, I noticed the billboard of a local Domino's Pizza yesterday
sporting the message "Hot wings - no carbs".

I'm not making this up.

I think part of the problem is that the bulk of the pizza in terms of volume
is the crust. If you just put all the toppings that had been thinly spread
on the crust in a bowl, you will have a disappointing portion.

Having adjusted to low carb, I do not eat high fat high calorie foods in
great quantity. In fact, it is surprising how small a meal can satisfy me.
However, while I used to pay $26 for an extralarge Round Table pizza, I
would refuse to pay even $10 for the same toppings in a small bowl. I might
pay $4, if I could.

"NLF" wrote in message
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Why don't the pizza companies try making pan pizza with no flour base at
all.?We like all the things ON the crust. NLF
"Jim Bard" wrote in message
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"Pat" wrote in message
...
i have noticed a lot of local pizza companies offering sales--and big
ones---on their pizzas in the last few weeks. We have heard that
bakeries,
pasta companies, and even flour companies being affected by the "low
carb
craze" and now I wonder if the pizzerias are suffering from reduced
sales
as
well.

Pat



You know, I noticed the billboard of a local Domino's Pizza yesterday
sporting the message "Hot wings - no carbs".

I'm not making this up.

NLF wrote:

Why don't the pizza companies try making pan pizza with no flour base at
all.?We like all the things ON the crust. NLF

Food cost. The crust costs them pennies. It's the toppings that cost
the most.

Pastorio

Overall pizza sales are up. You're just seeing the result of a summertime
seasonal drop. People are on vacation, BBQing, and going out more often
while the weather is nice.

"Pat" wrote in message
...
i have noticed a lot of local pizza companies offering sales--and big
ones---on their pizzas in the last few weeks. We have heard that bakeries,
pasta companies, and even flour companies being affected by the "low carb
craze" and now I wonder if the pizzerias are suffering from reduced sales
as
well.

Pat

I was at the mall yesterday and saw a sign at the local sbarro. They
have low carb pizza now. I stopped and asked about it. 18 grams per
slice. It's a whole wheat crust, not saussage. I didn't actually see
it. The crust is probably paper-thin, but it's still an option. I
could probably get away with two slices if I were good the rest of the
day.

brian



"Jim Bard" wrote in message ...
You know, I noticed the billboard of a local Domino's Pizza yesterday
sporting the message "Hot wings - no carbs".

Pat wrote:

NLF wrote:


Why don't the pizza companies try making pan pizza with no flour base at
all.?We like all the things ON the crust. NLF

Food cost. The crust costs them pennies. It's the toppings that cost
the most.

Pastorio

My son worked at Li'l Caesar's while in high school. One slow day, he
figured up how much the ingredients cost for a large pizza, and it was 12
cents.

I guess that's why he was still in school.

For the average pizzeria:
Large crust - 22-28 ounces weight of dough - About 60 cents.
Sauce - 10-14 fluid ounces - about 60 cents.
Cheese - 14-18 ounces - about $2.
Herbs, seasonings, Parm cheese, etc. - variable amounts - 20 cents.

Looks like roughly $3.40 and they usually sell for around $12. Food
cost of about 28% which is reasonable. Pizzas are labor intensive -
dough has to be made, weighed, scaled, packed for rising, rolled out,
topped, baked, cut and delivered (either to table or takeout). Labor
costs would be upward of 35%. Everything else would be about 20% (if
the place were run really, really well) for a profit in the range of
about 15% - 17%. The greater reality is that they operate in a range
more like 7% or 8% because all of Murphy's laws still exist.

Competition is stiff and that's why the delivery guys (Domino, Papa
John, etc.) offer sodas and wings and stuff. Since they don't have
dining rooms to worry about, their facility and service labor costs
are reduced so they can give more for your buck.

Pastorio

Years ago, I managed a Little Caesar's. 12 cents a pizza? Hopefully your son
learned the meaning of overhead when he went on to college.
If the profit on a $12 order came out to be $11.88, we'd all own a
franchise. It took everything I could do just to keep wages alone under 22%
of the weekly gross.


"Pat" wrote in message
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NLF wrote:

Why don't the pizza companies try making pan pizza with no flour base
at
all.?We like all the things ON the crust. NLF

Food cost. The crust costs them pennies. It's the toppings that cost
the most.

Pastorio

My son worked at Li'l Caesar's while in high school. One slow day, he
figured up how much the ingredients cost for a large pizza, and it was 12
cents.

Pat

Pat wrote:

i have noticed a lot of local pizza companies offering sales--and big
ones---on their pizzas in the last few weeks. We have heard that bakeries,
pasta companies, and even flour companies being affected by the "low carb
craze" and now I wonder if the pizzerias are suffering from reduced sales as
well.

i went out for pizza last night and the place was packed. they didn't
look like they were suffering much to me.

"Bob (this one)" wrote in message
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I guess that's why he was still in school.

LOL

Teachers do a substandard job again. Par for the course.