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Old August 7th, 2004, 07:31 AM
Ray Audette
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http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2004/...in634382.shtml

"...the study finds that women who ate the most carbs had twice the
risk of breast cancer compared to women who ate the least amount."

Ray Audette
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Old August 7th, 2004, 01:45 PM
Mary M - Ohio
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I knew I'd see a post about this. The researcher interviewed on the Today show
yesterday specifically talked about SUGAR being the possible culprit -- not healthy
carbs. The interviewee also said that it shouldn't even be a headline story because
it's so inconclusive -- they would have to do more careful testing of Mexican women,
whom this "study" was done on. Again, the interviewee stressed that it was the amount
of REFINED SUGAR that women with breast cancer in Mexico ate, not healthy
carbohydrates.

Mary M
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"Ray Audette" wrote in message
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http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2004/...in634382.shtml

"...the study finds that women who ate the most carbs had twice the
risk of breast cancer compared to women who ate the least amount."

Ray Audette
Author "NeanderThin"
www.NeanderThin.com




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Old August 7th, 2004, 01:45 PM
Mary M - Ohio
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I knew I'd see a post about this. The researcher interviewed on the Today show
yesterday specifically talked about SUGAR being the possible culprit -- not healthy
carbs. The interviewee also said that it shouldn't even be a headline story because
it's so inconclusive -- they would have to do more careful testing of Mexican women,
whom this "study" was done on. Again, the interviewee stressed that it was the amount
of REFINED SUGAR that women with breast cancer in Mexico ate, not healthy
carbohydrates.

Mary M
325-154-148

"Ray Audette" wrote in message
om...

http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2004/...in634382.shtml

"...the study finds that women who ate the most carbs had twice the
risk of breast cancer compared to women who ate the least amount."

Ray Audette
Author "NeanderThin"
www.NeanderThin.com




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Old August 7th, 2004, 02:14 PM
Barbara Hirsch
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On Sat, 7 Aug 2004 08:45:38 -0400, "Mary M - Ohio"
wrote:

I knew I'd see a post about this. The researcher interviewed on the Today show
yesterday specifically talked about SUGAR being the possible culprit -- not healthy
carbs. The interviewee also said that it shouldn't even be a headline story because
it's so inconclusive -- they would have to do more careful testing of Mexican women,
whom this "study" was done on. Again, the interviewee stressed that it was the amount
of REFINED SUGAR that women with breast cancer in Mexico ate, not healthy
carbohydrates.


Correct. In the study, the two highest associations to breast cancer
were sucrose intake and obesity.

I was going to post the discussion section here, but when I went to
the journal article, I did not have to enter my user name and
password, indicating that the article is publicly available.

Here's the link:

http://cebp.aacrjournals.org/cgi/content/full/13/8/1283

If you find you can't get into it, let me know and I'll repost here.

BTW, this is a better study than usual on this type of thing.
Generally they're epidemiological studies, this one was actually a
case control.


Barbara Hirsch, Publisher
OBESITY MEDS AND RESEARCH NEWS
The latest in obesity research and weight loss drug development
http://www.obesity-news.com/
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Old August 7th, 2004, 02:14 PM
Barbara Hirsch
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On Sat, 7 Aug 2004 08:45:38 -0400, "Mary M - Ohio"
wrote:

I knew I'd see a post about this. The researcher interviewed on the Today show
yesterday specifically talked about SUGAR being the possible culprit -- not healthy
carbs. The interviewee also said that it shouldn't even be a headline story because
it's so inconclusive -- they would have to do more careful testing of Mexican women,
whom this "study" was done on. Again, the interviewee stressed that it was the amount
of REFINED SUGAR that women with breast cancer in Mexico ate, not healthy
carbohydrates.


Correct. In the study, the two highest associations to breast cancer
were sucrose intake and obesity.

I was going to post the discussion section here, but when I went to
the journal article, I did not have to enter my user name and
password, indicating that the article is publicly available.

Here's the link:

http://cebp.aacrjournals.org/cgi/content/full/13/8/1283

If you find you can't get into it, let me know and I'll repost here.

BTW, this is a better study than usual on this type of thing.
Generally they're epidemiological studies, this one was actually a
case control.


Barbara Hirsch, Publisher
OBESITY MEDS AND RESEARCH NEWS
The latest in obesity research and weight loss drug development
http://www.obesity-news.com/
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Old August 7th, 2004, 09:43 PM
Barbara Hirsch
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On 7 Aug 2004 15:13:28 GMT, Ignoramus28438
wrote:

This is misleading as it could lead us to believe that starch is
nothing to worry about. The P value for starch was 0.008, and P value
for sucrose was 0.001, which means, in plain words, that starch
consumption was strongly associated with breast cancer as well.


In table 3 (which evaluated carbohydrate consumption),:

Sucrose less than 5.2 percent had a CI of 1 risk, greater than 8.5
percent CI of 2

Fructose less than 4.3 percent CI of 1, greater than 10.1 percent CI
of 1.36,

Lactose less than 3.02 percent CI of 1, greater than 8.4 percent CI
of 1.06

Glucose less than 3.4 percent CI of 1, greater than 9.2 percent CI of
1..28

Starch less than 11.2 percent CI of 1.00 greater than 17.5 CI of 1.06.

So this means that increased consumption of sucrose doubled the
chances of getting breast cancer in this population. Fructose raised
it 36 percent, glucose 28 percent. Lactose and starch, very little
difference.

The study that found the relationship between starch and breast cancer
was a different study, referenced in the discussion section.

FWIW,







The
differences in P values for sucrose or starch are immaterial and the
links are, practically speaking, just as statistically signIficant
between starch and breast cancer as they are between sucrose and
breast cancer.

It is hard to say what Mary meant by "healthy" carbs, since she did
not elaborate, but starch is linked to breast cancer.

Note that correlation does not imply causation.

It is interesting that there was no statistically significant
relationship between lactose and breast cancer.

Also, ``The associations between carbohydrate intake and breast cancer
risk were similar in this subgroup compared with the total population
and did not change appreciably when BMI was added to the model''. So
weight does not explain breast cancer risk any better, when added to
carb intake.

To those people afraid of fat, saturated or otherwise, ``total fat
intake (substituted for a similar percentage of energy from
carbohydrate) was not significantly associated with the risk of breast
cancer. When we replaced total fat with specific types of fat, we
observed that saturated and monounsaturated fat intakes were not
associated with the risk for breast cancer (Table 4). In contrast,
polyunsaturated fat intake was inversely related to the overall risk
of breast cancer, particularly among postmenopausal women.''

I


Barbara Hirsch, Publisher
OBESITY MEDS AND RESEARCH NEWS
The latest in obesity research and weight loss drug development
http://www.obesity-news.com/
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Old August 9th, 2004, 04:40 PM
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"Ignoramus28438" wrote in message
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It is hard to say what Mary meant by "healthy" carbs, since she did
not elaborate, but starch is linked to breast cancer.


Fruits, vegetables, whole grains -- as opposed to refined sugar.

Mary



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Old August 9th, 2004, 04:40 PM
Mary M - Ohio
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"Ignoramus28438" wrote in message
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It is hard to say what Mary meant by "healthy" carbs, since she did
not elaborate, but starch is linked to breast cancer.


Fruits, vegetables, whole grains -- as opposed to refined sugar.

Mary



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Old August 9th, 2004, 04:40 PM
Mary M - Ohio
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"Ignoramus28438" wrote in message
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It is hard to say what Mary meant by "healthy" carbs, since she did
not elaborate, but starch is linked to breast cancer.


Fruits, vegetables, whole grains -- as opposed to refined sugar.

Mary



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Old August 9th, 2004, 04:40 PM
Mary M - Ohio
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"Barbara Hirsch" wrote in message
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On Sat, 7 Aug 2004 08:45:38 -0400, "Mary M - Ohio"
wrote:
I knew I'd see a post about this. The researcher interviewed on the Today show
yesterday specifically talked about SUGAR being the possible culprit -- not

healthy
carbs. The interviewee also said that it shouldn't even be a headline story

because
it's so inconclusive -- they would have to do more careful testing of Mexican

women,
whom this "study" was done on. Again, the interviewee stressed that it was the

amount
of REFINED SUGAR that women with breast cancer in Mexico ate, not healthy
carbohydrates.

Correct. In the study, the two highest associations to breast cancer
were sucrose intake and obesity.
I was going to post the discussion section here, but when I went to
the journal article, I did not have to enter my user name and
password, indicating that the article is publicly available.

Here's the link:

http://cebp.aacrjournals.org/cgi/content/full/13/8/1283
If you find you can't get into it, let me know and I'll repost here.


Thanks for the information, Barbara!

Mary


 




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