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January 27th, 2007, 03:02 AM
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A cure for diabetes from 1806?
http://books.google.com/books?vid=OC...wafWIUC&pg=RA2...
Edinburgh Medical and Surgical Journal - Page 16 1806 He prescribed a bunch of medicines and of greater importance: "...laid no restriction upon his diet, except forbearance from vegetables." In those days that would be a meat only diet. Vegetables generally would mean all plant-sourced food including grains. Could this be the first recorded real-life application of a low-carb diet that successfully reversed the symptoms of diabetes T2? Similar to Dr Bernstein's Diabetes Solution. **** More cases confirming animal diet success in treating Diabetes T2 in 1807. MEDICAL REPORTS OF CASES AND EXPERIMENTS - Page 68 by SAMUEL ARGENT BARDSLEY, M.D. - 1807 http://books.google.com/books?vid=0A...3EFAAAAQAAJ&pg... *** An entire book on the subject of diabetes T2 and a successful cure. http://books.google.com/books?vid=OC...nt4ivYC&pg=PA4... On diabetes, and its successful treatment By John Mussendine Camplin, James Grey Glover The treatment? Animal foods and no grains. *** I hope the links work. TC 
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January 27th, 2007, 01:18 PM
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A cure for diabetes from 1806?
One point: a successul treatment is not the same thing as a cure.
wrote: :: http://books.google.com/books?vid=OC...wafWIUC&pg=RA2... :: :: :: Edinburgh Medical and Surgical Journal - Page 16 :: 1806 :: :: :: He prescribed a bunch of medicines and of greater importance: :: :: :: "...laid no restriction upon his diet, except forbearance from :: vegetables." :: :: :: In those days that would be a meat only diet. Vegetables generally :: would mean all plant-sourced food including grains. :: :: :: Could this be the first recorded real-life application of a low-carb :: diet that successfully reversed the symptoms of diabetes T2? Similar :: to :: :: Dr Bernstein's Diabetes Solution. :: :: :: **** :: :: More cases confirming animal diet success in treating Diabetes T2 in :: 1807. :: :: MEDICAL REPORTS OF CASES AND EXPERIMENTS - Page 68 :: by SAMUEL ARGENT BARDSLEY, M.D. - 1807 :: :: :: http://books.google.com/books?vid=0A...3EFAAAAQAAJ&pg... :: :: :: :: *** :: :: An entire book on the subject of diabetes T2 and a successful cure. :: :: http://books.google.com/books?vid=OC...nt4ivYC&pg=PA4... :: :: :: :: On diabetes, and its successful treatment By John Mussendine Camplin, :: James Grey Glover :: :: :: The treatment? Animal foods and no grains. :: :: :: *** :: :: I hope the links work. :: :: TC
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January 27th, 2007, 03:23 PM
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A cure for diabetes from 1806?
There is no cure for diabetes, now or in the past. Even when secondary
symptoms can be controled or reversed to some degree the underlying metabolic disorder remains. A simple glucose test will demonstrate this instantly.
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January 27th, 2007, 04:47 PM
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A cure for diabetes from 1806?
What do you call it when all the symptoms dissappear? TC On Jan 27, 7:18 am, "Roger Zoul" wrote: One point: a successul treatment is not the same thing as a cure. wrote:::http://books.google.com/books?vid=OC...wafWIUC&pg=RA2... :: :: :: Edinburgh Medical and Surgical Journal - Page 16 :: 1806 :: :: :: He prescribed a bunch of medicines and of greater importance: :: :: :: "...laid no restriction upon his diet, except forbearance from :: vegetables." :: :: :: In those days that would be a meat only diet. Vegetables generally :: would mean all plant-sourced food including grains. :: :: :: Could this be the first recorded real-life application of a low-carb :: diet that successfully reversed the symptoms of diabetes T2? Similar :: to :: :: Dr Bernstein's Diabetes Solution. :: :: :: **** :: :: More cases confirming animal diet success in treating Diabetes T2 in :: 1807. :: :: MEDICAL REPORTS OF CASES AND EXPERIMENTS - Page 68 :: by SAMUEL ARGENT BARDSLEY, M.D. - 1807 :: :: ::http://books.google.com/books?vid=0A...3EFAAAAQAAJ&pg... :: :: :: :: *** :: :: An entire book on the subject of diabetes T2 and a successful cure. :: ::http://books.google.com/books?vid=OC...nt4ivYC&pg=PA4... :: :: :: :: On diabetes, and its successful treatment By John Mussendine Camplin, :: James Grey Glover :: :: :: The treatment? Animal foods and no grains. :: :: :: *** :: :: I hope the links work. :: :: TC
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January 27th, 2007, 05:09 PM
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A cure for diabetes from 1806?
control.
wrote: :: What do you call it when all the symptoms dissappear? :: :: TC :: :: On Jan 27, 7:18 am, "Roger Zoul" wrote: ::: One point: a successul treatment is not the same thing as a cure. ::: ::: ::: wrote:::http://books.google.com/books?vid=OC...wafWIUC&pg=RA2... ::::: ::::: ::::: Edinburgh Medical and Surgical Journal - Page 16 ::::: 1806 ::::: ::::: ::::: He prescribed a bunch of medicines and of greater importance: ::::: ::::: ::::: "...laid no restriction upon his diet, except forbearance from ::::: vegetables." ::::: ::::: ::::: In those days that would be a meat only diet. Vegetables generally ::::: would mean all plant-sourced food including grains. ::::: ::::: ::::: Could this be the first recorded real-life application of a ::::: low-carb diet that successfully reversed the symptoms of diabetes ::::: T2? Similar to ::::: ::::: Dr Bernstein's Diabetes Solution. ::::: ::::: ::::: **** ::::: ::::: More cases confirming animal diet success in treating Diabetes T2 ::::: in 1807. ::::: ::::: MEDICAL REPORTS OF CASES AND EXPERIMENTS - Page 68 ::::: by SAMUEL ARGENT BARDSLEY, M.D. - 1807 ::::: ::::: ::::: http://books.google.com/books?vid=0A...3EFAAAAQAAJ&pg... ::::: ::::: ::::: ::::: *** ::::: ::::: An entire book on the subject of diabetes T2 and a successful ::::: cure. ::::: ::::: http://books.google.com/books?vid=OC...nt4ivYC&pg=PA4... ::::: ::::: ::::: ::::: On diabetes, and its successful treatment By John Mussendine ::::: Camplin, James Grey Glover ::::: ::::: ::::: The treatment? Animal foods and no grains. ::::: ::::: ::::: *** ::::: ::::: I hope the links work. ::::: ::::: TC
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January 27th, 2007, 05:10 PM
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A cure for diabetes from 1806?
"What do you call it when all the symptoms dissappear?"
Good control, not cure. A simple glucose test will reveal instantly the underlying metabolic disorder of diabetes.
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January 27th, 2007, 05:14 PM
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A cure for diabetes from 1806?
LOL, for sure...because as soon as you go back to your old eating
habits, we're talking hours here in many cases, the symptoms reappear. Cheri Roger Zoul wrote in message ... control. wrote: :: What do you call it when all the symptoms dissappear? :: :: TC :: :: On Jan 27, 7:18 am, "Roger Zoul" wrote: ::: One point: a successul treatment is not the same thing as a cure.
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#8
January 27th, 2007, 07:41 PM
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A cure for diabetes from 1806?
"Roger Zoul" wrote in message
... : control. I think people are splitting hairs on control vs cure. I've heard this arguement way to many times. If people want to think they are cured or controlled, who cares. You could throw this arguement into a lot of dieases. My ex-mother-in-law had lung cancer and the doctors did their voodoo, got rid of the cancer (18 years). Was she not cured or is she just controlled? She took up smoking again and guess what, it's back. Sorry but if my symptoms go away and I'm not on meds, I'll stick with "I'm cured". JMHO : wrote: ::: What do you call it when all the symptoms dissappear? ::: ::: TC
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January 27th, 2007, 08:27 PM
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A cure for diabetes from 1806?
Well, YMMV! There is NO perfect-for-everyone way of doing it... I just
heard about Dr. Neal Barnard and his book on reversing Type-2, yadda yadda. (http://www.nealbarnard.org/diabetes_book.htm) The treatment? Go Vegan! NO animal foods or fats. He's been doing studies plus funding from NIH and his work was published by the ADA last year... Anyway, again, YMMV! (Didn't mean to throw a bucket of water on anyone's enthusiasm. Much. ) :-) Steve wrote in message ups.com... snip "...laid no restriction upon his diet, except forbearance from vegetables." In those days that would be a meat only diet. Vegetables generally would mean all plant-sourced food including grains. snip On diabetes, and its successful treatment By John Mussendine Camplin, James Grey Glover The treatment? Animal foods and no grains. TC
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January 27th, 2007, 10:11 PM
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A cure for diabetes from 1806?
On Jan 27, 2:27 pm, "Scionyx" wrote: Well, YMMV! There is NO perfect-for-everyone way of doing it... I just heard about Dr. Neal Barnard and his book on reversing Type-2, yadda yadda. (http://www.nealbarnard.org/diabetes_book.htm) Neal Barnard has no training in nutrition. He is a non-practicing psychiatrist and a an animal rights activist with an anti-animal-food agenda. He's shacked up with Ingrid Newkirk, the head of PETA which financially supports Barnards group PCRM. Both groups supports violent terroristic animal rights activists and groups. The treatment? Go Vegan! NO animal foods or fats. He's been doing studies plus funding from NIH and his work was published by the ADA last year... He is completely unqualified to do reasearch in nurition. Just goes to show how porous the scientific publication system is. Anyway, again, YMMV! (Didn't mean to throw a bucket of water on anyone's enthusiasm. Much. ) :-) Steve Don't worry. you haven't thrown any water on anything. Just a bunch of animal rights bull****. TC wrote in oglegroups.com... snip "...laid no restriction upon his diet, except forbearance from vegetables." In those days that would be a meat only diet. Vegetables generally would mean all plant-sourced food including grains. snip On diabetes, and its successful treatment By John Mussendine Camplin, James Grey Glover The treatment? Animal foods and no grains. TC- Hide quoted text -- Show quoted text -
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