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"Beck" wrote in message ... "Wysong *~" P@P wrote in message ... "JulieB" wrote in message ... "Wysong *~" P@P wrote in message ... "Fred" wrote in message ... Hey, eating nuts has been determined to be healthy, like everything else - in moderation. So, an occasional 5 point NUTRITIOUS snack of nuts is definitely fine. It is not wasting your points at all. ## You sure will miss those 5 Pts at dinnertime. Been there - done that. Instead of 8 Pts for dinner as usual, all I had were 3 Pts. Not much of a dinner. :-( =============================================== But a 3 point dinner is easy. 100g of good quality steak (if it's good quality you don't need more than that), ## 100G of steak is a few bites. A 1/2 cup (child size portion) is 3 Pts. A few bites? Its a quarter lb burger. Thats more than a few bites :-) ======================= I don't measure by grams as I have a ounce scale and measuring cup. I measure the beef in the cup before cooking and there isn't much left afterward, even the low fat beef. :-( I would rather use 6 Pts (1cup) and have a nice filling meal. But, it's whatever works for you. To keep my metab' going I do snack on fruit at least twice a day, but they're only 1 Pt each leaving me more pts for lunch and dinner. I only eat about 23 to 24 Pts a day. If I stop losing weight, I'll drop them lower but will get these last 26 to 30 lbs off. ))) -- Wysong Age 60. Height 5'6" Starting date: 1/8/05 171/ 166 / 140 lb ========================================== |
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"Wysong *~" P@P wrote in message
... "Laura" wrote in message ... Yeah, you have to be careful whose advise we take in this group. Someone who is basically at the same weight she was at 2 years ago or those of us that have lost 50 to 100 pounds since that time. Gee, gotta wonder. ====================== And after 2+ YEARS you're still overweight? Where are your stats? I see you never post them. Why aren't YOU at goal weight? Too many nuts? :-))) Forget to deduct high fat snack Pts from other meals? I love nuts, even raw peanuts, but will save then for when I reach my goal weight. Why do you need to be so abusive to people in this newsgroup? Is it because we don't agree with every bit of crap you send our way??? As I said the other day, you pulled this crap on us in 2003. You're attitude towards us was not welcome then and you certainly are headed in the same direction this time too. We are a support group. We don't bash people. We try and help them. We make recommendations that people can accept or reject as they please. You don't see other people attacking every comment made like you do. If you can't play nice then get the h*ll out of here and leave us alone. Wanna see my stats? Here they are. Many people don't post their stats with every message. I don't feel the need to. I can at least say that I am making progress in the past 2 years while you can't. I am a slow loser but at least I am losing. That's more than you can say. This btw, is the last message that I will post to you or in any thread that you participate in. I can only hope that others will do the same thing. -- ~Laura~ 245.6/177/145 WW 4/21/03 178.6/177/170 INTL |
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## Which doesn't mean they're right. Look how FAT American's are by
listening to *nutritionists* for the past 25 years. We ate less fats and more carbs and we're still dying from the same disease - this time due to OBESITY! According to that NYTImes article last year they're taking a closer look at the old food pyramid and having second thoughts. Have you ever read what the federal governemnet advice actually is? You shouldn't believe everything you read in the papers. These are the highpoints of the current dietary advice to Americans http://www.health.gov/dietaryguideli...05/default.htm "In brief, the Committee's findings support nine major messages: Consume a variety of foods within and among the basic food groups while staying within energy needs. Control calorie intake to manage body weight. Be physically active every day. Increase daily intake of fruits and vegetables, whole grains, and nonfat or low-fat milk and milk products. Choose fats wisely for good health. Choose carbohydrates wisely for good health. Choose and prepare foods with little salt. If you drink alcohol, do so in moderation. Keep food safe to eat." The food pyramid is here http://www.usda.gov/cnpp/pyrabklt.pdf Both these sources go into a great deal of detail about what you should eat, and both are particularly insistent that you should control calories. If Americans followed the latter advice there would not be so many overweight Americans. Ray -- 2002 1.8i eternal red |
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"Wysong *~" P@P wrote in message ... A few bites? Its a quarter lb burger. Thats more than a few bites :-) ======================= I don't measure by grams as I have a ounce scale and measuring cup. I measure the beef in the cup before cooking and there isn't much left afterward, even the low fat beef. :-( I would rather use 6 Pts (1cup) and have a nice filling meal. But, it's whatever works for you. To keep my metab' going I do snack on fruit at least twice a day, but they're only 1 Pt each leaving me more pts for lunch and dinner. I only eat about 23 to 24 Pts a day. If I stop losing weight, I'll drop them lower but will get these last 26 to 30 lbs off. ))) Whichever way you measure it, its still a quarter pound of beef :-) |
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"Fred" wrote in message ... Clearly, you probably were just eating protein and fats and definitely not nuts or water or heaven forbid, complex carbs and fruits. ## Wow and here I'm eating all those complex carbs and fruits and and lost 5 lbs! :-))) Looks like you didn't even read my posts.... I notice that she admitted that she was losing a pound a month even when it was NOT working. ## See,... Memory problems Fred? I was losing less than a lb a month I said several times. I don't call that great success, especially when it was costing $40 a month just for the meetings and getting CONTRADICTORY advice from the two people running the meetings. At $40 for each 3/4 lbs lost - well you do the math! Just like her imposition of willpower and discipline and overnight success for those stupidly obese, that's what she seeks in weightloss. ## So that's what you secretly think of the obese,... shame on you! And this formerly obese body may not have run marathons but did hike up very tall mountains. It happens contrary to POPULAR opinion. And low-carb left me paralyzed trying to hike, bike or ski - no energy at all. ## Then it was not for you, just like L.A. Weight loss, WW etc are not for everyone. -- Wysong Age 60. Height 5'6" Starting date: 1/8/05 171/ 166 / 140 lb ========================================== |
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"ray miller" wrote in message ... ## Which doesn't mean they're right. Look how FAT American's are by listening to *nutritionists* for the past 25 years. We ate less fats and more carbs and we're still dying from the same disease - this time due to OBESITY! According to that NYTImes article last year they're taking a closer look at the old food pyramid and having second thoughts. Have you ever read what the federal governemnet advice actually is? You shouldn't believe everything you read in the papers. ## No one should. But it appears many do! These are the highpoints of the current dietary advice to Americans http://www.health.gov/dietaryguideli...05/default.htm "In brief, the Committee's findings support nine major messages: Consume a variety of foods within and among the basic food groups while staying within energy needs. ## This goes without saying. Control calorie intake to manage body weight. ## We need experts to tell us this? Be physically active every day. Increase daily intake of fruits and vegetables, whole grains, and nonfat or low-fat milk and milk products. ## This is nothing new either.... Choose fats wisely for good health. Choose carbohydrates wisely for good health. Choose and prepare foods with little salt. If you drink alcohol, do so in moderation. Keep food safe to eat." ## This looks like the same old information just rehashed and repackaged. The food pyramid is here http://www.usda.gov/cnpp/pyrabklt.pdf ## So what's new about it? It's still showing us a high carb diet - the SAME diet we can thank for the runaway obesity here in the USA. The rest of the information is common sense i.e. - eat less - move more! Both these sources go into a great deal of detail about what you should eat, and both are particularly insistent that you should control calories. ## But this is NOTHING new Ray! No matter what diet you're on, from vegetarian to nearly all meat like the Eskimos, if you consume too many calories you will get fat! If Americans followed the latter advice there would not be so many overweight Americans. ## But for some reason over 65% of people can't or refuse to follow it. Have you read about the Hispanic population (mainly carb diet) in the Bronx NY and their abnormally high number of obese people suffering from diabetes? Even their children are obese and developing adult onset diabetes. Asthma is also abnormally high in these communities. Someone somewhere needs to do some serious research on a healthy diet most people will and can follow.... -- Wysong Age 60. Height 5'6" Starting date: 1/8/05 171/ 166 / 140 lb ========================================== |
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Actually, "poisoning" by too much animal protein is exactly what
thousands of people in the Western world, possibly millions, ostensibly are. Most of us eat far too much, and far too little fruit and veg with it. (I've had kidney problems myself) ## If by poisoned you mean *OBESE* than yes, I agree with you. No, I mean liver disease, kidney stones and cancers. Wysong, you can on on and on about how great a low-carb lifestyle is, ## Where did I claim it was a "great lifestyle?" I said it WORKS for almost everyone who tried it. Except you, evidently. Otherwise you've be slim and wouldn't be bothering us on the WW NG. but the fact is you're still overweight and you admit yourself that the weight-loss stalled after a few months. ## And you keep forgetting that on WW I was losing less than a lb a month at the time. How come you never mention that, and the fact I dumped 46 lbs in 5 months on low-carb? And that' with the same thyroid problem! But you're still overweight, aren't you? So come back and tell us how great low-carbing is when you've lost the rest. "It stopped working" isn't really a great advert - kind of hoisted by your own petard, actually. P.S. You're not an Eskimo. -- Anna (in UK) Start Weight: 174 lbs Goal Weight: 146 lbs Current Weight: 165.5 lbs |
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"Wysong *~" P@P wrote in message ... ## But for some reason over 65% of people can't or refuse to follow it. Have you read about the Hispanic population (mainly carb diet) in the Bronx NY and their abnormally high number of obese people suffering from diabetes? Even their children are obese and developing adult onset diabetes. Asthma is also abnormally high in these communities. Someone somewhere needs to do some serious research on a healthy diet most people will and can follow.... I blame McDonalds |
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Low carb nauseates me, like on day two. I mean Really nauseating.
Lucky for me I got to goal eating my nuts and fruits. Snort. Ah... -- LESLIE ARNIM "Fred" wrote in message ... On Wed, 26 Jan 2005 17:52:25 GMT, "Lesanne" wrote: Dang, you think it's the Nuts doing it? Geeze Louise, guess I'll just have to stay crazy. I'd suggest more nuts (G) But I cannot give up a good snort of water now and then, it cleans the sinus'. Sinuses.? Sinewa? Well, you know..... Ah, like the word that I detest - signage - sounds like nasal drip announcing McDonalds (G) She does pop up every now and then with all that great advice and wisdom. I saw here when I was still morbidly obese. And again while I was just plain obese, then again while overweight..... Someone is doing well, but I cannot figure out who to take advice from....... Clearly, you probably were just eating protein and fats and definitely not nuts or water or heaven forbid, complex carbs and fruits. I notice that she admitted that she was losing a pound a month even when it was NOT working. Just like her imposition of willpower and discipline and overnight success for those stupidly obese, that's what she seeks in weightloss. And this formerly obese body may not have run marathons but did hike up very tall mountains. It happens contrary to POPULAR opinion. And low-carb left me paralyzed trying to hike, bike or ski - no energy at all. |
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Lesanne wrote:
Low carb nauseates me, like on day two. I mean Really nauseating. Lucky for me I got to goal eating my nuts and fruits. Snort. Ah... Can't do low carb - I get waaaaay too hungry! And I feel woosy on day 2 or 3 too.. Can't do fatty foods. Makes my insides misbehave - badly. Can't do beef in larger quantities, or lamb. Can't do red wine. Oily Fish is OK. Looks like I should have been Sicilian! -- Kate XXXXXX (Misplaced Scot!) Lady Catherine, Wardrobe Mistress of the Chocolate Buttons http://www.diceyhome.free-online.co.uk Click on Kate's Pages and explore! |
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