Lotsa Fiber!

I am taking lots of Metamucil powder fiber. Helps keep me regular.
But is it possible to take too much fiber? Obviously, I shouldn't
take too much at once, because I don't want to feel bloated. More
than 2 teaspoonfulls at once would most likely cause a bloated
feeling. But isn't it OK to take, say, 6 teaspoonfuls per day, spaced
out in say, 2 and a half hour intervals?

Thanks everyone

Joe

first question:

WHY?

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"Joe" joseph@here wrote in message
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I am taking lots of Metamucil powder fiber. Helps keep me regular.
But is it possible to take too much fiber? Obviously, I shouldn't
take too much at once, because I don't want to feel bloated. More
than 2 teaspoonfulls at once would most likely cause a bloated
feeling. But isn't it OK to take, say, 6 teaspoonfuls per day, spaced
out in say, 2 and a half hour intervals?

Thanks everyone

Joe

Clinical trials show that fiber is one of the nutrients
that you're better off getting in food. How much fiber
does this come out to? Can you read off the package or
is the print too small?

Joe wrote:

I am taking lots of Metamucil powder fiber. Helps keep me regular.
But is it possible to take too much fiber? Obviously, I shouldn't
take too much at once, because I don't want to feel bloated. More
than 2 teaspoonfulls at once would most likely cause a bloated
feeling. But isn't it OK to take, say, 6 teaspoonfuls per day, spaced
out in say, 2 and a half hour intervals?

Thanks everyone

Joe

"Joe" joseph@here wrote in message
...
I am taking lots of Metamucil powder fiber. Helps keep me regular.
But is it possible to take too much fiber? Obviously, I shouldn't
take too much at once, because I don't want to feel bloated. More
than 2 teaspoonfulls at once would most likely cause a bloated
feeling. But isn't it OK to take, say, 6 teaspoonfuls per day, spaced
out in say, 2 and a half hour intervals?

Depends on how much fiber you get from other sources. Brad here eats tons
of fiber, so he could probably tell you how it effects a person. Why
Metamcil? Are you taking the type that has sugar in it? The orange
flavored kind?

I use plain psyllium husk powder - that's what is in metamucil. I only take
one or two heaping teaspoon per day though, blended into my protein shake.
Gave me bad painful bloating initially. Drink lots of water.

On Mon, 20 Oct 2003 16:43:46 -0500, "rosie read and post"
wrote:

first question:

WHY?

to stay as regular as possible and to flush out and scrape out as much
bad stuff from my system as possible.
Joe

On Mon, 20 Oct 2003 16:10:14 -0700, "determined"
wrote:


"Joe" joseph@here wrote in message
.. .
I am taking lots of Metamucil powder fiber. Helps keep me regular.
But is it possible to take too much fiber? Obviously, I shouldn't
take too much at once, because I don't want to feel bloated. More
than 2 teaspoonfulls at once would most likely cause a bloated
feeling. But isn't it OK to take, say, 6 teaspoonfuls per day, spaced
out in say, 2 and a half hour intervals?

Depends on how much fiber you get from other sources.

I don't get much fiber from other sources. I eat wheat bread or wheat
toast often - but not many vegetables.

Brad here eats tons
of fiber, so he could probably tell you how it effects a person. Why
Metamcil? Are you taking the type that has sugar in it? The orange
flavored kind?

You said it has sugar? No. It contains Maltodextrin, which is NOT a
sugar. The kind I take is orange flavored powder and it has NO sugars
whatsoever.


I use plain psyllium husk powder - that's what is in metamucil. I only take
one or two heaping teaspoon per day though, blended into my protein shake.
Gave me bad painful bloating initially.

My understanding is that bloating occurs when either too much fiber is
consumed at one time, or if not enough water accompanies it, to wash
it down.

Drink lots of water.


Yes, I totally agree.

Joe

"Joe" joseph@here wrote in message
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On Mon, 20 Oct 2003 16:10:14 -0700, "determined"
wrote:


"Joe" joseph@here wrote in message
.. .
I am taking lots of Metamucil powder fiber. Helps keep me regular.
But is it possible to take too much fiber? Obviously, I shouldn't
take too much at once, because I don't want to feel bloated. More
than 2 teaspoonfulls at once would most likely cause a bloated
feeling. But isn't it OK to take, say, 6 teaspoonfuls per day, spaced
out in say, 2 and a half hour intervals?

Depends on how much fiber you get from other sources.

I don't get much fiber from other sources. I eat wheat bread or wheat
toast often - but not many vegetables.

Brad here eats tons
of fiber, so he could probably tell you how it effects a person. Why
Metamcil? Are you taking the type that has sugar in it? The orange
flavored kind?

You said it has sugar? No. It contains Maltodextrin, which is NOT a
sugar. The kind I take is orange flavored powder and it has NO sugars
whatsoever.

It depends on the formula - the regular has sucrose, the sugar free has
maltodextrin...

Hi Joe.

It is good that you want to do something to be healthy.

I need to make a couple of comments though.

It is easy to get lots of fiber and a lot of good nutrients as well,
without eating metamucil, which, as far as I remember, is loaded with
sugar and is not a natural form of food. All you need to do it eat
lots of vegetables such as broccoli, green peppers, cabbage, whole
wheat bread etc. Besides having fiber and a lot of bulk, these foods
are loaded with vitamins, minerals, they have some mild diuretic
properties etc. They will make you feel much better and definitely
improve regularity.

Regular exercise also is beneficial for "regularity", it is not a food
only thing. Walk, run, ride a bicycle, etc -- it will all be helpful
and you will feel much better.

You mentioned scrapping off the junk from your system. Fiber does not
do it. Your intestines are clean aside from **** that passes through
them. The idea that junk is scaped off has no good basis in evidence
and was invented by peddlers of questionable products.

IGNY, DOOD, WHOA, STOP - those are VERY QUESTIONABLE STATEMENTS there.
We may argue on the exact definitions of "scrape", but lemmie tell
you: I'd bet quite a bit of money that you'd be very hard pressed to
find any citations of respectable physicians who would back up your
claim. Where is your evidence? And I don't want to see no web page
from some quack. It is common knowledge that PSYLLIUM *pronouced with
emphasis* helps to absorb toxins in the COLON *stares down the
audience* by creating a SPONGY, GELATINOUS MASS in the bowels. By
SWELLING and ABSORBING FLUIDS, it breaks down and moves toxic waste
matter stuck in the FOLDS and CREVICES *do you hear me* of the COLON.
And if you have diverticula, the toxic material will be harder to
clean without fiber.

*walks to his chair and sits down*.

Now, as you were saying?



If you feel like **** etc, there can be many causes of it. The typical
cause is overeating. If you start eating less and simultaneously
replace much of junk food and such with vegetables, you are almost
guaranteed to feel much, much purer and better and "cleaner" inside.

IGNY, give me a break, dude. Let me ask you something: is your
system sufficient in all vitamins and minerals? I'd venture to guess
that it's not. Have you verified that your levels of A, D, E, K,
phosphorus, magnesium, calcium, and niacin couldn't stand ANY chance
of being increased? Well then, why do you think supplements are so
highly recommended?

Let me put it this way: My original question was WHAT'S WRONG WITH
TAKING A LOT OF PSYLLIUM HUSK FIBER? And I say: NOTHING. And you
have yet to prove me wrong. Did I say I NEVER eat veggies? NO! Did I
say I NEVER consume fiber via whole wheat toast or other healthy
foods? NO!

I'm sorry, but you made me mad.

Joe



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223/176/180

On 21 Oct 2003 19:35:38 GMT, Ignoramus26947
wrote:

In article , Joe wrote:
Hi Joe.

It is good that you want to do something to be healthy.

I need to make a couple of comments though.

It is easy to get lots of fiber and a lot of good nutrients as well,
without eating metamucil, which, as far as I remember, is loaded with
sugar and is not a natural form of food. All you need to do it eat
lots of vegetables such as broccoli, green peppers, cabbage, whole
wheat bread etc. Besides having fiber and a lot of bulk, these foods
are loaded with vitamins, minerals, they have some mild diuretic
properties etc. They will make you feel much better and definitely
improve regularity.

Regular exercise also is beneficial for "regularity", it is not a food
only thing. Walk, run, ride a bicycle, etc -- it will all be helpful
and you will feel much better.

You mentioned scrapping off the junk from your system. Fiber does not
do it. Your intestines are clean aside from **** that passes through
them. The idea that junk is scaped off has no good basis in evidence
and was invented by peddlers of questionable products.

IGNY, DOOD, WHOA, STOP - those are VERY QUESTIONABLE STATEMENTS there.
We may argue on the exact definitions of "scrape", but lemmie tell
you: I'd bet quite a bit of money that you'd be very hard pressed to
find any citations of respectable physicians who would back up your

http://www.quackwatch.org/01Quackery...cs/gastro.html


the quackwatch guy is a moron.



http://www.healthfactsandfears.com/h...lon022703.html

lots of citations there.

`` Moreover, direct observation of the colon during surgical
procedures or autopsies found no evidence that hardened feces
accumulate on the intestinal walls.''


Not true.

``Despite these facts,

Facts, huh? The original sources please?

- some chiropractors,

Oh yes. Here is comes. They have an agenda. They want to portray
chiropractors as EVIL. Why did they feel the need to mention the
words "chiropractors" instead of saying something like "health
professionals"? Because they want to paint a certain picture of
chiropractors.


naturopaths,

Again. Translation? Naturopaths are EVIL.

and assorted
food faddists

Whatever

claim that "death begins in the colon" and that "90
percent of all diseases are caused by improperly working bowels."''


I see. And what do you find wrong with those statements? You have
cited a moronic quack (the idiot at quackwatch - his name is very
appropriate - quackwatch - he obviously watches himself a lot) and
some no-name website.


claim. Where is your evidence? And I don't want to see no web page
from some quack.

you can read the actual articles referred to by the webpage.

It is common knowledge that PSYLLIUM *pronouced with
emphasis* helps to absorb toxins in the COLON *stares down the
audience* by creating a SPONGY, GELATINOUS MASS in the bowels. By
SWELLING and ABSORBING FLUIDS, it breaks down and moves toxic waste
matter stuck in the FOLDS and CREVICES *do you hear me* of the COLON.
And if you have diverticula, the toxic material will be harder to
clean without fiber.

see above


See my comments above


regular ****ting and soft stools are great, no doubt. especially if
you have, say, hemorrhoids or some such things.


Whatever


*walks to his chair and sits down*.

Now, as you were saying?



If you feel like **** etc, there can be many causes of it. The typical
cause is overeating. If you start eating less and simultaneously
replace much of junk food and such with vegetables, you are almost
guaranteed to feel much, much purer and better and "cleaner" inside.


Go back and read my post where I talk about continuously feeling
starved.

IGNY, give me a break, dude. Let me ask you something: is your
system sufficient in all vitamins and minerals? I'd venture to guess
that it's not.

What is the basis for such a supposition? I eat a great diet and based
on my readings, I would be greatly surprised to be lacking in anything
of importance.


I didn't ask what would surprise you. I asked if you could verify it.


Have you verified that your levels of A, D, E, K,
phosphorus, magnesium, calcium, and niacin couldn't stand ANY chance
of being increased? Well then, why do you think supplements are so
highly recommended?

they are usually recommended by their sellers. In reality, a person
eating a good diet -- vegetables, cereals, meat and fish and milk --
gets more or less everything.



Here it comes...


I read a lot about this topic.

Yes of course you do!! From that quack's website. That's whom you
trust. Look at some different sources for a change.


Vitamins
are also poorly absorbed in pill form. People who are not eating a
good diet may indeed be deficient in vitamins.

I see no reason why I should "increase" my vitamins beyond what they
are.

http://www.quackwatch.org/01Quackery...spotquack.html


See above. Moron quack website.

Let me put it this way: My original question was WHAT'S WRONG WITH
TAKING A LOT OF PSYLLIUM HUSK FIBER?

nothing. but take it without "maltodextrin". just buy psyllium husk
powder. Even better, eat vegetables which provide you with digestible
vitamins, unlike "supplement" pills.

And I say: NOTHING. And you
have yet to prove me wrong. Did I say I NEVER eat veggies? NO! Did I
say I NEVER consume fiber via whole wheat toast or other healthy
foods? NO!

it is a question of quantity. If you eat one cherry every other day,
that's not enough.

I'm sorry, but you made me mad.

Well Joe, my intent was to be helpful by suggesting better
alternatives. Somehow you took this as a negative judgment about your
lifestyle and took it personally.

When you make unfounded statements (again, cite ORIGINAL STUDIES AND
ORIGINAL SOURCES PLEASE) I am going to react in some way or another.
It just happened to make me mad in this case.

Joe

Joe,

I eat 60 -70 grams of fiber, but no fiber supplements. Major fiber
sources for me: oatmeal, fiber rye crispbreads, nuts and seeds. A
couple of warnings 1) increase fiber intake gradually. 2) be prepared
for large bowel movements if you eat over 30 grams a day. 3) always
get lots of fluid with your fiber. Benefits of fiber: regularity and
no hemorroids, lower cholesterol, lessens appetite. Don't expect it to
be a magic bullet for weight loss. Exercise will also help you become
more regular. If you increase your fiber too rapidly be prepared for
nasty problems - including bowel obstruction.

Joe joseph@here wrote in message . ..
On Mon, 20 Oct 2003 16:10:14 -0700, "determined"
wrote:


"Joe" joseph@here wrote in message
.. .
I am taking lots of Metamucil powder fiber. Helps keep me regular.
But is it possible to take too much fiber? Obviously, I shouldn't
take too much at once, because I don't want to feel bloated. More
than 2 teaspoonfulls at once would most likely cause a bloated
feeling. But isn't it OK to take, say, 6 teaspoonfuls per day, spaced
out in say, 2 and a half hour intervals?

Depends on how much fiber you get from other sources.

I don't get much fiber from other sources. I eat wheat bread or wheat
toast often - but not many vegetables.

Brad here eats tons
of fiber, so he could probably tell you how it effects a person. Why
Metamcil? Are you taking the type that has sugar in it? The orange
flavored kind?

You said it has sugar? No. It contains Maltodextrin, which is NOT a
sugar. The kind I take is orange flavored powder and it has NO sugars
whatsoever.


I use plain psyllium husk powder - that's what is in metamucil. I only take
one or two heaping teaspoon per day though, blended into my protein shake.
Gave me bad painful bloating initially.

My understanding is that bloating occurs when either too much fiber is
consumed at one time, or if not enough water accompanies it, to wash
it down.

Drink lots of water.


Yes, I totally agree.

Joe