Gastric Bypass diet after surgury

Hey everyone.. would anyone happen to have a full menu that is used
for the proper diet after gastric bypass surgery. I am doing some
research and have rouble finding a full menu.

-Jason

Isn't it ironic, that if they ate their special bypass diet without the
surgery, they should have the same results?


"Ignoramus16317" wrote in message
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On Sat, 23 Apr 2005 02:13:36 GMT, Aaron Reynolds wrote:
Hey everyone.. would anyone happen to have a full menu that is used
for the proper diet after gastric bypass surgery. I am doing some
research and have rouble finding a full menu.

Go to alt.support.diet.low-carb and ask Laureen, she had a gastric
surgery recently and she will share everything that you ask about. As
always, listen but verify.

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223/176.2/180

"Ignoramus31514" wrote in message
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On Sat, 23 Apr 2005 16:28:38 GMT, Cubit wrote:
Isn't it ironic, that if they ate their special bypass diet without the
surgery, they should have the same results?

It is indeed ironic.

There's nothing ironic about it. The surgery is not only intended to make it
easier to follow a very low calorie diet to lose a huge amount of weight
but, more importantly, it ensures that the patient will keep it off. Most
people who have surgery have dieted and lost large amounts of weight, only
to regain it all and some more. They don't just turn up at the doctor's
saying "hey, I don't want to be this fat, got an easy cure?:" It takes a
good deal of courage to decide on this treatment knowing it has a 1-2%
mortality rate.

Maybe doing things the hard way gives you guys a sense of 'virtue' but in
the end it's all about getting rid of the weight & keeping it off, not
making a display of self-discipline and willpower. WLS is an excellent
alternative to dying at 40 or 50 from the consequences of morbid obesity or
living a life of limitations imprisoned in several hundred pounds of
unwanted fat.

"Polar Light" wrote in message
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"Ignoramus31514" wrote in message
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On Sat, 23 Apr 2005 16:28:38 GMT, Cubit wrote:
Isn't it ironic, that if they ate their special bypass diet without the
surgery, they should have the same results?

It is indeed ironic.

There's nothing ironic about it. The surgery is not only intended to make
it easier to follow a very low calorie diet to lose a huge amount of
weight but, more importantly, it ensures that the patient will keep it
off. Most people who have surgery have dieted and lost large amounts of
weight, only to regain it all and some more. They don't just turn up at
the doctor's saying "hey, I don't want to be this fat, got an easy cure?:"
It takes a good deal of courage to decide on this treatment knowing it has
a 1-2% mortality rate.

Maybe doing things the hard way gives you guys a sense of 'virtue' but in
the end it's all about getting rid of the weight & keeping it off, not
making a display of self-discipline and willpower. WLS is an excellent
alternative to dying at 40 or 50 from the consequences of morbid obesity
or living a life of limitations imprisoned in several hundred pounds of
unwanted fat.

Well said. I am very thankful that I was able to avoid WLS but I know
others who made that choice and. No one I know personally went into it
lightly though I know of a few people anecdotally who have. It's no
guarantee for permanent weight loss. One woman I know is screwing up her
weight loss with beer and mixed drinks. Anyway, thanks for pointing out
that the *support* part of ASD seems to lost on some.
--
the volleyballchick

Pointing out the irony, is supportive. I once believed that it was not
possible to get my weight below 300 with dieting. I had tried. It took a
constant effort restricting my eating to just hold even around 310 to 320.
However, I discovered that it is possible to lose weight. I had given up
without sufficient research efforts.

I had done some research, I bought a $100 authoritative diet program back in
the 1980s. It didn't help. I thought I had dug deep enough. This idea of
hopelessness was supported by seeing the almost universal failure of diets
in our society. However, in hindsight, if I had gone to the library and
researched diet approaches from decades ago and before, I might have solved
the problem.

Pointing out the irony only looks unsupportive, if one believes the search
for alternatives to WLS is hopeless.

Cubit
311/177/165

"Nunya B." wrote in message
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"Polar Light" wrote in message
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"Ignoramus31514" wrote in message
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[snip]
Anyway, thanks for pointing out
that the *support* part of ASD seems to lost on some.
--
the volleyballchick

"Cubit" wrote in message
m...
Pointing out the irony, is supportive. I once believed that it was not
possible to get my weight below 300 with dieting. I had tried. It took a
constant effort restricting my eating to just hold even around 310 to 320.
However, I discovered that it is possible to lose weight. I had given up
without sufficient research efforts.

I had done some research, I bought a $100 authoritative diet program back
in
the 1980s. It didn't help. I thought I had dug deep enough. This idea
of
hopelessness was supported by seeing the almost universal failure of diets
in our society. However, in hindsight, if I had gone to the library and
researched diet approaches from decades ago and before, I might have
solved
the problem.

Pointing out the irony only looks unsupportive, if one believes the search
for alternatives to WLS is hopeless.

Cubit
311/177/165

For some people there are no better alternatives to WLS. There is not only
one way of doing things. You did a great job losing weight the way you did.
I also went from 300+ pounds to a healthier weight without WLS. Your WOE
would have would probably have been as dangerous to *me* as WLS since I
don't tolerate high fat (with or without carbs). Isn't that ironic?
--
the volleyballchick

Reviewing a few of your posts, I found that you suggest that fat in your
breakfast makes you feel nausea. Sometimes nausea can be a symptom of
eating beyond the end of hunger, and then beyond the point of being full.
Is it possible that the problem was not the fat, but rather the act of
eating beyond the body's signals to stop?


"Nunya B." wrote in message
link.net...
"Cubit" wrote in message
m...
Pointing out the irony, is supportive. I once believed that it was not
possible to get my weight below 300 with dieting. I had tried. It took
a
constant effort restricting my eating to just hold even around 310 to
320.
However, I discovered that it is possible to lose weight. I had given
up
without sufficient research efforts.

I had done some research, I bought a $100 authoritative diet program
back
in
the 1980s. It didn't help. I thought I had dug deep enough. This idea
of
hopelessness was supported by seeing the almost universal failure of
diets
in our society. However, in hindsight, if I had gone to the library
and
researched diet approaches from decades ago and before, I might have
solved
the problem.

Pointing out the irony only looks unsupportive, if one believes the
search
for alternatives to WLS is hopeless.

Cubit
311/177/165

For some people there are no better alternatives to WLS. There is not
only
one way of doing things. You did a great job losing weight the way you
did.
I also went from 300+ pounds to a healthier weight without WLS. Your WOE
would have would probably have been as dangerous to *me* as WLS since I
don't tolerate high fat (with or without carbs). Isn't that ironic?
--
the volleyballchick

"Cubit" wrote in message
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Reviewing a few of your posts, I found that you suggest that fat in your
breakfast makes you feel nausea. Sometimes nausea can be a symptom of
eating beyond the end of hunger, and then beyond the point of being full.
Is it possible that the problem was not the fat, but rather the act of
eating beyond the body's signals to stop?


No. See, I don't post my whole life to usenet, especially this group, so
making assumptions or presumptions based on what I've posted is useless.
BION I actually have competent medical assistance with my health issues.
Sometimes excessive fat intake can wreak havoc with the liver. It doesn't
happen to everyone and I'm happy for you that you found what works for you.
I found what works for me. We're two different people with two different
ways of achieving a similar goal. Neither one of us is right or wrong nor
do we have any place to be snarky or overly judgemental of someone else's
choices. That was the basis of the original argument - period.

I found that it's more SAD than IRONIC that some people have felt they have
no choice but to resort to WLS. I can really empathize with someone in that
situation based on what I've been through in my life. Maybe that's what you
meant with your original comments, maybe not. I'm done discussing it.

--
the volleyballchick