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Old October 28th, 2012, 01:44 AM posted to alt.support.diet.low-carb
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The Quest bars are quite different from any other protein bars.

Dogman wrote:
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| Ever try "bulletproof" coffee in the morn? Two cups will keep you
| going for most of the day (surely until lunch). 2-3 tbsp of grass-fed
| butter (Kerry Gold unsalted is best) blended in ~16 oz of black
| coffee. Add some vanilla and/or artificial sweetener to taste.
|
| You won't need no stinkin' protein bars.
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Old October 28th, 2012, 07:07 PM posted to alt.support.diet.low-carb
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I guess it's comfort food for me. Might try the coffee though. I'm sort of
a half-assed LCer. I eat pretty low carb but probably too much food. So I
am not 290 like I was when I started but seem to be settled at 218. Which
is really much more pleasant. I hate exercise, my knees and back are bad,
so I am totally sedentary. I know, not your choice but it's mine. I'm 77
so won't be sticking around too much longer, at least I hope not. I don't
want to be a burden on anyone and it's easier to die than to get in shape.

Dogman wrote:
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| FOB, I agree that Quest bars are better than most.
|
| But my point was that you won't want (or need) to eat one to fill
| yourself up in the morning. The coffee and FAT will fuel your day well
| into the afternoon hours. It's like drinking rocket fuel. Plus, it'll
| help you to lose weight, too.
|
| If you want to eat some protein later in the day, have at it.
|

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Old October 28th, 2012, 09:28 PM posted to alt.support.diet.low-carb
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FOB wrote:
The Quest bars are quite different from any other protein bars.


Yes, they are. They have fine ingredients and virtually no carbs.
If we have power, I will follow up on your nuking suggestion.
The ONLY thing that I don't like about Quest bars is their
texture, and that wouldn't be bad, but they all have the same
texture. I REALLY like the chocolate ones, but I know I can only
eat those rarely, because otherwise they'd give me migraine
headaches. I have jacked up the flavor of the lemon ones with
True Lemon and augmented the flavor of the cinnamon ones with...
cinnamon. I find some of the flavors to be unremarkable, but not
bad by any means.

BTW, I like your suggestion of eating them routinely for
breakfast. Like you, I don't want to faff around in the morning.
I just want to be able to pick something up and eat it with my
coffee, and I don't want to consume Atkins bars. I have come
across some recipes for protein bars, and I will start playing
with them soon--but it won't be in the morning.
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Old October 28th, 2012, 09:29 PM posted to alt.support.diet.low-carb
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Dogman wrote:
It did to me too, somneone who has always had his coffee black.

But I can't drink it any other way these days.

The trick is to make sure it's really hot, because the process of
blending the coffee and butter together can really cool the coffee
down. So I zap it in the microwave afterwards. It's silky smooth and
delicious!

--
Dogman


I will try to work up the courage to try this.


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Old October 28th, 2012, 09:33 PM posted to alt.support.diet.low-carb
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FOB wrote:
I guess it's comfort food for me. Might try the coffee though. I'm sort of
a half-assed LCer. I eat pretty low carb but probably too much food. So I
am not 290 like I was when I started but seem to be settled at 218. Which
is really much more pleasant. I hate exercise, my knees and back are bad,
so I am totally sedentary. I know, not your choice but it's mine. I'm 77
so won't be sticking around too much longer, at least I hope not. I don't
want to be a burden on anyone and it's easier to die than to get in shape.


Well, I am ONLY 62, so I can't say that that resonates with me,
Joan, but give me a few years. It seems like my attitude toward
death is shifting as I get older. When I was young, I was going
to evade it--or be frozen. Now, I am thinking I would like an
ecological burial, and I'd be happy to nourish the flora and fauna.

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Old October 28th, 2012, 10:20 PM posted to alt.support.diet.low-carb
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Jean B. wrote:

Ugh to black coffee....


My very biased stance - If you don't like coffee black that means you
don't actually like coffee. What you like are the additions. So why
have coffee at all? Other than a caffeine addiction ... The additions
tend to be high carb and/or high fat. Not that high fat is an issue for
long term low carbers but calories do count.
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Old October 28th, 2012, 10:26 PM posted to alt.support.diet.low-carb
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Doug Freyburger wrote:
Jean B. wrote:

Ugh to black coffee....


My very biased stance - If you don't like coffee black that means you
don't actually like coffee. What you like are the additions. So why
have coffee at all? Other than a caffeine addiction ... The additions
tend to be high carb and/or high fat. Not that high fat is an issue for
long term low carbers but calories do count.


Well, as you say, that is a very biased stance. I do like coffee,
but with some sweetener and something to give it some body.

Heck, shall we compare what you said about coffee to chocolate?
If you don't like chocolate unsweetened that means you don't like
chocolate? I think not. You might even like some tinkering to
get the right mouth feel.
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Old October 28th, 2012, 10:41 PM posted to alt.support.diet.low-carb
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BlueBrooke wrote:
"Jean B." wrote:

Here in the Northeast we may get a really ugly storm. I am
wondering what LC things would be good to have on hand in case of
a power outage. I don't want to be driven to eat more carbs just
because the power is out, but I am having a hard time coming up
with things to eat--and what to put in my coffee. (Previously, I
could use the little packs of milk--even chocolate milk. I gazed
at the little packs of nondairy milks at WF but the few they had
did not seem to be LC.)


It's true that low carbers often focus on fresh foods. That doesn't
mean that the shelf stable foods we buy have to be high carb ones. Do
you buy low carb foods that are prepared? Get more of those to prepare
for an emergency.

I am having a hard time coming up with things. All I have thought
of is some cheeses. (Laughing Cow, which I normally don't
particularly like, has an odd label that says "refrigerate after
purchase"! Can string cheese stay out for a while?)


Cheese is a way of preserving milk. They types of cheeses that last
well without refrigeration are the ones with classic names. "Real"
cheeses. All of the types that come in rounds. In an emergency I'll
eat the "fake" cheeses first. The ones that come by the slice really
are now all fake these days. Then the block types. Last the wedges.

I see some
hard sausages but try not to eat much of that sort of thing.


Why avoid hard sausages? Also jerky and canned meats.

There are nuts and canned fish--not that I want to live on either
for many meals.


Yeah, good stuff when eaten as ingredients. A bit much when eaten as
staples.

I guess I should get ice (if there is any left), and then I could
keep "milk" and a few other things in a cooler.


I've seen milk in tetrapak boxes. It needs no refrigeration until
opened. It's not a common product, though.

This usually comes up this time of year. You can look at the archives
and see previous suggestions -- there aren't many alternatives. IIRC,
when I asked about this a couple of years ago, the thread degenerated
into a "why don't you just eat what's available" discussion, and I
remember some mention of the fact that trying to prepare for such an
eventuality borders on paranoia. Might not have been here -- can't
remember for sure which group that was in.


In the short run I'm one who points out there are priorities in life and
low carbing is not as high as other priorities when it comes to
emergencies. I don't advocate fighting hospital meals for this reason.
To me it's more important to heal to the point you get out of the
hospital than to fight them over the food.

In the long run I favor buying low carb products to stock the shelves
especially if everyone in the house is a low carber. Jars of nut and
legume butters. Making your own rules but I always have some commercial
jars. Cans of low carb veggies. Never as good as fresh or frozen but I
always have some cans of green/yellow/wax beans, asparagus, you name it.

Dried beans are medium carb and they are shelf stable. Few emergencies
last longer than a canister of butane to keep a bean pot going.

Keep plenty of shelf stable low carb items in the shelves as a matter of
habit and you get used to shopping. The better news is stores don't run
out of them fast in emergencies.
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Old October 29th, 2012, 12:37 AM posted to alt.support.diet.low-carb
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Doug Freyburger wrote:
It's true that low carbers often focus on fresh foods. That doesn't
mean that the shelf stable foods we buy have to be high carb ones. Do
you buy low carb foods that are prepared? Get more of those to prepare
for an emergency.


Most things that I prepare need to be stored in the refrigerator.
I may bake something that could survive outside the refrigerator.

Cheese is a way of preserving milk. They types of cheeses that last
well without refrigeration are the ones with classic names. "Real"
cheeses. All of the types that come in rounds. In an emergency I'll
eat the "fake" cheeses first. The ones that come by the slice really
are now all fake these days. Then the block types. Last the wedges.


I guess I have been conditioned by always seeing cheeses in the
refrigerated sections at stores--well, all except the big uncut
wheels and the tiny dregs that are put out for people to pick up
for an on-the-go snack.

Why avoid hard sausages? Also jerky and canned meats.


Because my mother died of pancreatic cancer, and one theory is
that such meats can be a contributing factor.

Yeah, good stuff when eaten as ingredients. A bit much when eaten as
staples.


I did get several cans of sardines. I looked at tuna, but it
either was from iffy waters, or it contained soy, or it was
extremely expensive. I even went back to look for smaller cans,
but there were none.

I've seen milk in tetrapak boxes. It needs no refrigeration until
opened. It's not a common product, though.


I got some, but those little packs contain 11 grams of carbs! Too
bad Calorie Countdown (aka Carb Countdown) doesn't come like that.
I also got a fresh carton of cream, and specifically
ultra-pasteurized cream, which I figure might last for a tiny while.


In the short run I'm one who points out there are priorities in life and
low carbing is not as high as other priorities when it comes to
emergencies. I don't advocate fighting hospital meals for this reason.
To me it's more important to heal to the point you get out of the
hospital than to fight them over the food.


Well, as I have said (possibly here), having been derailed before,
I don't WANT to risk derailing again. I know that even if I THINK
it won't happen, it may happen. Hospital meals are a scary
prospect.

In the long run I favor buying low carb products to stock the shelves
especially if everyone in the house is a low carber. Jars of nut and
legume butters. Making your own rules but I always have some commercial
jars. Cans of low carb veggies. Never as good as fresh or frozen but I
always have some cans of green/yellow/wax beans, asparagus, you name it.


I have nut butters. I have to say that I LOOKED at the canned
veggies, but they were most unappealing. The ones I would eat are
not the best LC choices.

Dried beans are medium carb and they are shelf stable. Few emergencies
last longer than a canister of butane to keep a bean pot going.


I have legumes. I do eat them in small quantities (with some
guilt, but they have their virtues). Good idea. And I can even
make something out of them, and maybe tuna, with oil and vinegar
and herbs. Not my usual approach, but fine. I could also try
something with clams and beans (thinking along Portuguese lines)....

Keep plenty of shelf stable low carb items in the shelves as a matter of
habit and you get used to shopping. The better news is stores don't run
out of them fast in emergencies.


Obviously, my shelves, which are stocked for almost every
contingency as far as different cuisines go, are not fully stocked
for LC purposes. That has been gradually happening.

Thanks for putting some thought and energy into this, Doug.

Jean

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Old October 29th, 2012, 07:40 AM posted to alt.support.diet.low-carb
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On Friday, October 26, 2012 9:56:32 PM UTC-5, Jean B. wrote:
Here in the Northeast we may get a really ugly storm. I am

wondering what LC things would be good to have on hand in case of

a power outage. I don't want to be driven to eat more carbs just

because the power is out, but I am having a hard time coming up

with things to eat--and what to put in my coffee. (Previously, I

could use the little packs of milk--even chocolate milk. I gazed

at the little packs of nondairy milks at WF but the few they had

did not seem to be LC.)



I am having a hard time coming up with things. All I have thought

of is some cheeses. (Laughing Cow, which I normally don't

particularly like, has an odd label that says "refrigerate after

purchase"! Can string cheese stay out for a while?) I see some

hard sausages but try not to eat much of that sort of thing.

There are nuts and canned fish--not that I want to live on either

for many meals.



I guess I should get ice (if there is any left), and then I could

keep "milk" and a few other things in a cooler. I am sure I am

just blanking on numerous good choices, and would greatly

appreciate any suggestions that can be made in the next day or

two, so I can stock up.



Thanks!



Jean B.


I've seen some bag-like packages of sardines and some bag-like packages of salmon. Some people can tear them open, but I prefer a pair of scissors.

If you want a low-carb Halloween treat, I usually use dark chocolate.

Robert Miles
 




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