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Old August 8th, 2007, 02:05 PM posted to alt.support.diet
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I have never really dieted before, if anyone could help an ignorant
guy, with a bit of a belly like me, I would appreciate it.

KCAL- this mean kilo calories, right? How much is good for you?

Is this connected to fat, saturated, unsaturated, carbohydrates? How
do you read each on a package, in Japanese and English and what puts
fat onto your body?

Are carbs before 9pm fine?

What is wrong with sugar, exactly?

What is a recommended, diet?

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Old August 8th, 2007, 02:21 PM posted to alt.support.diet
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ups.com...


I have never really dieted before, if anyone could help an ignorant
guy, with a bit of a belly like me, I would appreciate it.

KCAL- this mean kilo calories, right? How much is good for you?

Is this connected to fat, saturated, unsaturated, carbohydrates? How
do you read each on a package, in Japanese and English and what puts
fat onto your body?

Are carbs before 9pm fine?


You probably want carbs with every meal


What is wrong with sugar, exactly?


Sugar is a simple carb. If you eat sugar you get filled up and do not get
enough fats, protein, fiber, vitamins and minerals.


What is a recommended, diet?


50% complex carbs, 25% fats and 25% protein would probably be useable. A
different mix would probably be better. to lose weight you need to eat a
little less than you need. To lose fat exercise.

Bob


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Old August 8th, 2007, 03:35 PM posted to alt.support.diet
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Default dieting for a beginner

Calories are notated in different ways in different countries, but I think
they are all the same standard of measure.

There are many approaches to dieting. Most diet books work, then the person
has re-gain afterwards.

Without more info, such as your BMI, you might be an anorexic looking for
the wrong kind of support. We need more info, such as BMI.

My bias is toward: Atkins


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ups.com...


I have never really dieted before, if anyone could help an ignorant
guy, with a bit of a belly like me, I would appreciate it.

KCAL- this mean kilo calories, right? How much is good for you?

Is this connected to fat, saturated, unsaturated, carbohydrates? How
do you read each on a package, in Japanese and English and what puts
fat onto your body?

Are carbs before 9pm fine?

What is wrong with sugar, exactly?

What is a recommended, diet?



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Old August 8th, 2007, 04:08 PM posted to alt.support.diet
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"Cubit" wrote in message
et...
Calories are notated in different ways in different countries, but I think
they are all the same standard of measure.

There are many approaches to dieting. Most diet books work, then the
person has re-gain afterwards.

Without more info, such as your BMI, you might be an anorexic looking for
the wrong kind of support. We need more info, such as BMI.

My bias is toward: Atkins


wrote in message
ups.com...


I have never really dieted before, if anyone could help an ignorant
guy, with a bit of a belly like me, I would appreciate it.

KCAL- this mean kilo calories, right? How much is good for you?

Is this connected to fat, saturated, unsaturated, carbohydrates? How
do you read each on a package, in Japanese and English and what puts
fat onto your body?

Are carbs before 9pm fine?

What is wrong with sugar, exactly?

What is a recommended, diet?




It is all dieting just different goals.

Bob


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Old August 8th, 2007, 04:25 PM posted to alt.support.diet
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What is called a calorie in the US is known as a kilocalorie in the
rest of the world.

You can diet in various ways, but you have to eat less calories than
you spend, to lose weight. There is no magic "lose weight while eating
a lot of calories" method on the market.

i
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Old August 8th, 2007, 05:25 PM posted to alt.support.diet
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wrote in message
ups.com...


I have never really dieted before, if anyone could help an ignorant
guy, with a bit of a belly like me, I would appreciate it.

KCAL- this mean kilo calories, right? How much is good for you?


Gaining and losing weight works like this:

Calories, or KCals are a measurement of the energy in food. The food you eat
goes into your body and is turned into energy. If you eat more calories
worth of food then your body uses as energy, you store energy as fat. If you
eat less Calories of food then your body uses, you lose weight. To lose one
pound of weight, you need to eat 3500 calories less then your body uses.

Most people shoot for a deficit of 3500 to 7000 Calories per week, which is
a loss of 1 to 2 pounds per week.

You need to educate yourself a bit. Search for the following online using
Yahoo, Google or whatever:

BMI Calculator
Diet Calculator
Height Weight Chart

These aren't the end-all of determining your ultimate weight or your current
level of health, but its a good way to start figuring out what kind of shape
you're in and where you want to go. These tools should give you a pretty
good idea of where you are now and where you want to go. Once you use these
tools and gather some information, post that information back to this group
for better advice.

Is this connected to fat, saturated, unsaturated, carbohydrates? How
do you read each on a package, in Japanese and English and what puts
fat onto your body?


You can find this info on the search engines as well.

Are carbs before 9pm fine?


You can eat any time and still lose weight. What matters, in terms of weight
loss, is how many Calories you eat vs. how many Calories you burn.

What is wrong with sugar, exactly?


Its bad for your teeth. Excessive amounts can cause diabetes and other
health problems. Eating food with a lot of sugar doesn't satisfy your
appitite so you eat more and more.

What is a recommended, diet?


I like the Atkins diet, very little sugar or carbohydrates. The important
thing is to find something that works for you, that you can stick with for
the rest of your life. That's right -- the rest of your life. If you go on a
"diet" and lose weight, and then start to eat the way you do now, you will
gain that weight back.

Best of Luck! Hope to see you posting in the near future.

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Old August 8th, 2007, 07:04 PM posted to alt.support.diet
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wrote in message
ups.com...


I have never really dieted before, if anyone could help an ignorant
guy, with a bit of a belly like me, I would appreciate it.

KCAL- this mean kilo calories, right? How much is good for you?

Is this connected to fat, saturated, unsaturated, carbohydrates? How
do you read each on a package, in Japanese and English and what puts
fat onto your body?


Don't know about in Japanse, but here in the US, nutrition info includes
calories which are derived from carbs, proteins and fats.

What puts fat onto your body is eating more calories than your body burns in
a day. A basic formula is 12 calories multiplied by your current bodyweight
in pounds, to maintain your weight. To lose, deduct 500 calories per day.

The ratio of carbs/proteins/fats that works best for an individual varies
from person to person. I personally aim for about 40% carbs, 30% proteins,
and 30% fats.

Are carbs before 9pm fine?


I'd say, if you are trying to lose weight, don't eat anything after 6pm.

What is wrong with sugar, exactly?


Empty calories.


What is a recommended, diet?


Lean proteins, complex carbs, plenty of fresh fruits and veggies, water,
healthy fats.

Avoid starchy foods, processed foods, fast food, fried food.



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Old August 8th, 2007, 07:08 PM posted to alt.support.diet
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sycochkn wrote:

wrote in message
ups.com...


I have never really dieted before, if anyone could help an ignorant
guy, with a bit of a belly like me, I would appreciate it.

KCAL- this mean kilo calories, right? How much is good for you?

Is this connected to fat, saturated, unsaturated, carbohydrates? How
do you read each on a package, in Japanese and English and what puts
fat onto your body?

Are carbs before 9pm fine?


You probably want carbs with every meal


What is wrong with sugar, exactly?


Sugar is a simple carb. If you eat sugar you get filled up and do not get
enough fats, protein, fiber, vitamins and minerals.


What is a recommended, diet?


50% complex carbs, 25% fats and 25% protein would probably be useable. A
different mix would probably be better. to lose weight you need to eat a
little less than you need. To lose fat exercise.


Wow. That's some fantastic non-advice.
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Old August 8th, 2007, 07:36 PM posted to alt.support.diet
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"em" wrote in message ...

wrote in message
ups.com...


I have never really dieted before, if anyone could help an ignorant
guy, with a bit of a belly like me, I would appreciate it.

KCAL- this mean kilo calories, right? How much is good for you?


Gaining and losing weight works like this:

Calories, or KCals are a measurement of the energy in food. The food you
eat goes into your body and is turned into energy. If you eat more
calories worth of food then your body uses as energy, you store energy as
fat. If you eat less Calories of food then your body uses, you lose
weight. To lose one pound of weight, you need to eat 3500 calories less
then your body uses.

Most people shoot for a deficit of 3500 to 7000 Calories per week, which
is a loss of 1 to 2 pounds per week.

You need to educate yourself a bit. Search for the following online using
Yahoo, Google or whatever:

BMI Calculator
Diet Calculator
Height Weight Chart

These aren't the end-all of determining your ultimate weight or your
current level of health, but its a good way to start figuring out what
kind of shape you're in and where you want to go. These tools should give
you a pretty good idea of where you are now and where you want to go. Once
you use these tools and gather some information, post that information
back to this group for better advice.

Is this connected to fat, saturated, unsaturated, carbohydrates? How
do you read each on a package, in Japanese and English and what puts
fat onto your body?


You can find this info on the search engines as well.

Are carbs before 9pm fine?


You can eat any time and still lose weight. What matters, in terms of
weight loss, is how many Calories you eat vs. how many Calories you burn.

What is wrong with sugar, exactly?


Its bad for your teeth. Excessive amounts can cause diabetes and other
health problems. Eating food with a lot of sugar doesn't satisfy your
appitite so you eat more and more.

What is a recommended, diet?


I like the Atkins diet, very little sugar or carbohydrates. The important
thing is to find something that works for you, that you can stick with for
the rest of your life. That's right -- the rest of your life. If you go on
a "diet" and lose weight, and then start to eat the way you do now, you
will gain that weight back.

Best of Luck! Hope to see you posting in the near future.


Here a sampling of several body fat calculation methods. The BMI is useless
using methods based on the BMI I have come up with values from minus 12
percent to plus 24 percent body fat. Most height weight charts seem to be
OK. For doing food calcualations the information on the food package is
probably adequate for most applications.

Bob



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Old August 8th, 2007, 08:23 PM posted to alt.support.diet
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"sycochkn" wrote


Here a sampling of several body fat calculation methods. The BMI is
useless using methods based on the BMI I have come up with values from
minus 12 percent to plus 24 percent body fat.


There are a lot of legit arguments against BMI. I think of BMI, weight, body
fat % measurements, height weight charts, waist measurements, clothing
sizes,
etc. as tools to use for tracking and understanding progress towards a goal.
My "real goals" are to look good and feel healthy.

I have a lot of fat to lose. The two tools I use most are watching what I
eat (counting carbs and making good choices for foods), and weighing myself
every day to make sure I'm on-track. (Day-to-day weight is meaningless;
charting your weight over a long period of times means a lot.)

Most height weight charts seem to be OK.


I've been looking at these charts and am starting to realize that I am in
big-time denial about what my goal weight should be. The charts say that I
should weigh in between 180 and 190 pounds, and I've been thinking I can get
away with anywhere from 210 to 220. I am at 245 right now and have been
thinking I was within 25 pounds or so of my goal. Even though I am having
trouble accepting it, the fact is I need to lose more like 60 pounds. That
is disconcerting, to say the least.

I was looking at my fat-ass stomach in the mirror today. No way am I a
person with "just 25 pounds to lose".

For doing food calcualations the information on the food package is
probably adequate for most applications.


That and the USDA database. Between the database and the food labels, you
have all the information you need, be that Calories, fat, kinds of fat,
cholesterol, sodium, carbs, etc.

http://www.nal.usda.gov/fnic/foodcomp/search/



 




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