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Old September 25th, 2003, 11:06 PM
NR
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The diet advocates have continuously claimed that by eating less, and
less fatty foods, we could all be slim. Americans listened. According
to the U.S. Department of Agriculture (USDA) Center for Nutrition
Policy and Promotion, total caloric intake, as well as total fat
intake, steadily decreased from 1965 to 1990. During this period,
obesity increased dramatically, Steven Blair, P.E.D., president of the
Cooper Institute noted in a February 2002 Mayo Clinic Proceedings.
"The prevalence of obesity," he concluded, "is unlikely to be due to
increases in daily energy intake."

We're not the only nation to realize that weight gain can't be
explained simply by how much people eat. Between 1980 and 1991, the
number of heavyweights in England doubled, while Britons were eating
10 percent fewer calories, according to their government.

But American women appear to have been most affected by admonitions to
watch what they eat. Before the diet mania, the average American woman
took in 3,000 to 5,000 calories a day; today that average woman eats
less than 1,600 calories daily and is on some type of weight loss
program, according to Frances Berg, M.S., in Women Afraid to Eat --
Breaking Free in Today's Weight-Obsessed World (Healthy Weight
Network, 2000).

Yet, studies published in peer-reviewed journals from researchers
including R.J. Tuschl, Reinhold G. Laessle and Jane Wardle, have found
that women who watch what they eat and are light eaters, or who have
dieted, actually weigh more than those who don't restrict the foods
they eat -- even though they're eating about 620 calories less a day!
Many fat individuals have spent their lives restricting what they eat,
with valiant willpower and self-control; they just don't look like it.

Indeed, after decades of decreasing fat and calorie intakes, 1990 saw
a quirky dip especially in men, followed by the recent increase back
to 1965 figures; but throughout this entire period, Americans kept
getting fatter, while not eating any more than they had before. By the
1990s, it was clear that the low-fat and diet messages weren't working
and the USDA, (AHA), and the American Dietetic Association (ADA) began
moderating their recommendations, which are reflected in more recent
dietary figures.

Those trying to convince us of an "obesity crisis" use a common
sleight of hand in selectively using only dietary changes since 1990.
By taking a narrow sampling to support their claims, these diet
proponents exaggerate our bad habits and attribute them to obesity,
all the while ignoring why obesity rates soared for decades when we
were eating less fat and fewer calories than we are today.



ARGH.


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Old September 26th, 2003, 12:51 PM
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On 26 Sep 2003,
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Old September 27th, 2003, 05:41 AM
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In article , NR wrote:
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http://www.techcentralstation.com/071403A.html
The diet advocates have continuously claimed that by eating less, and
less fatty foods, we could all be slim. Americans listened. According
to the U.S. Department of Agriculture (USDA) Center for Nutrition
Policy and Promotion, total caloric intake, as well as total fat
intake, steadily decreased from 1965 to 1990. During this period,
obesity increased dramatically, Steven Blair, P.E.D., president of the
Cooper Institute noted in a February 2002 Mayo Clinic Proceedings.
"The prevalence of obesity," he concluded, "is unlikely to be due to
increases in daily energy intake."


It appears obvious to me that enough people have lifestyles more
sedentary around and after 1990 than around/before 1965 to explain higher
prevalence in overweightness and obesity now and in the past several
years.

- Don Klipstein )
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Old October 1st, 2003, 01:45 AM
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In , jean and bill wrote:

It ain't the fat, it's the carbs. See:

http://tinyurl.com/p7kc


One argument they propose:

Against Asians eating more carb and less fat having lower rates of heart
disease:
Jean/Bill proposes that these carb-eating Asians get more strokes and
pancreatic cancer and thyroid cancer.

I would say that heart disease is a much bigger killer and even more so
a much bigger cause of big-ticket medical bills than strokes, and that
pancreatic and thyroid cancers are far down the list of causes of death.
Heart disease is a greater cause of death in the USA than all cancers
combined, and about half of all USA cancers are attributrable to cigarette
smoking. After smoking related cancers comes (probably out of order, but
still more significant than thyroid and pancreatic cancer) a

*Colon-rectum cancer, with higher fat intake largely believed to slightly
favor this

*Breast cancer, with slight positive correlation with being overweight and
with never (I don't know which of these two) giving birth or breastfeeding
(A fact used by anti-abortion forces to suit their agenda)

*Skin cancer, with the more common types associated with total sun
exposure and with most of the deadlier ones having positive correlation
with severe sunburn

*Prostate cancer, which normally progresses slowly at first and is
easily treatable for a while after being detectable and the main cause
seems to be having a prostate and not dying of something else before a
cancer gets a chance to develop in the prostate

*Lung cancer caused by radon, depending on the source of information.
Note that buildings have accumulated more radon in the past 15 years than
they did prior to the early 1970's, and also that lung cancers attributed
to radon (as well as ones to various particles such as asbestos) are
widely claimed to occur more in smokers and recent-smokers than in
longtime non-smokers (smokers' lungs retain particles that non-smokers'
lungs expel since the lungs' "sweeping cells" are paralyzed in smokers'
lungs).

- Don Klipstein )
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Old October 1st, 2003, 04:41 PM
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Then again, it could be the 19% increase in caloric intake over the past
30 years...

http://www.public.iastate.edu/~rheto...e/rhecofp.html


The statistic is caloric *production*, not "intake". i.e., the world is
producing (via agriculture, etc.) 3,000+ calories per person per day. It is
not implying those calories are consumed at the same level they are
produced.

btw, there's a typo in that article, too: the table says "3810" but the
text says "3180".


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Old October 1st, 2003, 04:46 PM
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"Before the diet mania, the average American woman
took in 3,000 to 5,000 calories a day; today that average woman eats
less than 1,600 calories daily and is on some type of weight loss
program,"


It fails to mention an additional factor: various conveniences has made it
such that the average person is a lot more sedentary now than they were in
the past. i.e., 3000 to 5000 calories a day in the past was a lot less
'damaging' that it is now.


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Old October 1st, 2003, 05:34 PM
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On 10/1/2003 11:41 AM, Jeeters wrote:
Then again, it could be the 19% increase in caloric intake over the past
30 years...

http://www.public.iastate.edu/~rheto...e/rhecofp.html



The statistic is caloric *production*, not "intake". i.e., the world is
producing (via agriculture, etc.) 3,000+ calories per person per day. It is
not implying those calories are consumed at the same level they are
produced.

btw, there's a typo in that article, too: the table says "3810" but the
text says "3180".


Oops, sorry about that

"A big jump in average calorie intake between 1985 and 2000
without a corresponding increase in the level of physical activity
(calorie expenditure) is the prime factor behind America’s soaring
rates of obesity and Type 2 diabetes."
- http://www.ers.usda.gov/publications...frvol25i3a.pdf

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Old October 7th, 2003, 02:49 AM
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Eating less does not result in weight loss? Duhhhh.....I'll tell that to the
75 lbs. I've lost so far. They'll be surprised to hear it. G

Cat (snickering)


 




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