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Carbohydrates offer some help in muscle protein synthesis, but not enough for the desired effect
"Lee Michaels" wrote in message news:YO7%b.16960$AL.337350@attbi_s03... "Mark Gebhard" wrote in message ... "David" wrote in message ... "Lee Michaels" wrote in message news:z87%b.409140$na.796892@attbi_s04... "Mike V" whined A nasty SOB are you not? I am delighted not to be one of your friends. MikeV This may help you understand this newsgroup. http://home.comcast.net/~mfw/ Pay particular attention to # 19, # 23, # 24 and the closing remarks. stick your stupid charter up your ass, you dumb ****** That's the MFW we all know and love. David Forgot Why (an appropriate screen name) is obviously an individual who has issues with clear communication and practical knowledge. sure, and you are obviously a genius |
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Carbohydrates offer some help in muscle protein synthesis, but notenough for the desired effect
Carbs aren't supposed to help build muscles. They're supposed to maintain brain function if you get at least 120 grams a day (American College for Preventive Medicine) and to light the match so to speak so you can burn fat. Diarmid Logan wrote: |
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Carbohydrates offer some help in muscle protein synthesis, butnotenough for the desired effect
Diarmid is in the habit of posting things that are way too old for any intelligent person not to know them. I don't know why he does this. Maybe he thinks we are all stupid. Lyle McDonald wrote: Diarmid Logan wrote: http://www.eurekalert.org/pub_releas...-cos022504.php Carbohydrates offer some help in muscle protein synthesis, but not enough for the desired effect This comes to you from the Dept. of No **** we Knew this 10 years ago Sherlock. The only confusion comes in that carbs don't appear to affect protein SYNTHESIS (an increase in insulin prmiarily affecting protein breakdown, decreasing it). HIgh AA concentrations stimulate protein synthesis. Cobmining the two (high insulin + high AA) gives better results, something that's been known for years. But thanks for being on the cutting edge of about 1995 or so. Lyle |
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Carbohydrates offer some help in muscle protein synthesis, but not enough for the desired effect
On Wed, 25 Feb 2004 16:10:25 -0500, Patricia Heil
wrote: Carbs aren't supposed to help build muscles. They're supposed to maintain brain function if you get at least 120 grams a day (American College for Preventive Medicine) and to light the match so to speak so you can burn fat. Darn! Here I thought my brain was working great on much less than 120 grams a day of carbs. And. I've lost about 50 pounds eating very few carbs. Apparently, the American College for Preventive Medicine doesn't know anything. -- Bob in CT Remove ".x" to reply |
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Carbohydrates offer some help in muscle protein synthesis, but not enough for the desired effect
"Lee Michaels" wrote in message news:z87%b.409140$na.796892@attbi_s04... "Mike V" whined A nasty SOB are you not? I am delighted not to be one of your friends. MikeV This may help you understand this newsgroup. http://home.comcast.net/~mfw/ Pay particular attention to # 19, # 23, # 24 and the closing remarks. Thanks for the fine info, Lee. Had I realized I was including the viagra users' group in my comment, I would have made appropriate allowance for the general level of intellectual discourse attained over there! Sorry, ;-( MikeV |
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Carbohydrates offer some help in muscle protein synthesis, butnot enough for the desired effect
At first glance, I would have taken the "February 2004 edition of the
Journal of Applied Physiology" as moderately current. Just shows how much I know. Getting dated myself, I suppose. MikeV "Patricia Heil" wrote in message ... Diarmid is in the habit of posting things that are way too old for any intelligent person not to know them. I don't know why he does this. Maybe he thinks we are all stupid. Lyle McDonald wrote: Diarmid Logan wrote: http://www.eurekalert.org/pub_releas...-cos022504.php Carbohydrates offer some help in muscle protein synthesis, but not enough for the desired effect This comes to you from the Dept. of No **** we Knew this 10 years ago Sherlock. The only confusion comes in that carbs don't appear to affect protein SYNTHESIS (an increase in insulin prmiarily affecting protein breakdown, decreasing it). HIgh AA concentrations stimulate protein synthesis. Cobmining the two (high insulin + high AA) gives better results, something that's been known for years. But thanks for being on the cutting edge of about 1995 or so. Lyle |
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Carbohydrates offer some help in muscle protein synthesis, but not enough for the desired effect
"Mike V" wrote in message ink.net... "Lee Michaels" wrote in message news:z87%b.409140$na.796892@attbi_s04... "Mike V" whined A nasty SOB are you not? I am delighted not to be one of your friends. MikeV This may help you understand this newsgroup. http://home.comcast.net/~mfw/ Pay particular attention to # 19, # 23, # 24 and the closing remarks. Thanks for the fine info, Lee. Had I realized I was including the viagra users' group in my comment, I would have made appropriate allowance for the general level of intellectual discourse attained over there! Sorry, ;-( MikeV there are some pretty good people in this group - this guy just happens to be a prick |
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Carbohydrates offer some help in muscle protein synthesis, butnot enough for the desired effect
Mike V wrote:
At first glance, I would have taken the "February 2004 edition of the Journal of Applied Physiology" as moderately current. Just shows how much I know. Getting dated myself, I suppose. MikeV Just because the journal has a current date doesn't mean that its contents are anything new. -- -Wayne |
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Carbohydrates offer some help in muscle protein synthesis, butnotenough for the desired effect
Wayne S. Hill wrote:
Mike V wrote: At first glance, I would have taken the "February 2004 edition of the Journal of Applied Physiology" as moderately current. Just shows how much I know. Getting dated myself, I suppose. MikeV Just because the journal has a current date doesn't mean that its contents are anything new. I was optimistic in saying 1995. Try 1987. Lyle *** J Clin Invest. 1987 Apr;79(4):1062-9. Differential effects of hyperinsulinemia and hyperaminoacidemia on leucine-carbon metabolism in vivo. Evidence for distinct mechanisms in regulation of net amino acid deposition. Tessari P, Inchiostro S, Biolo G, Trevisan R, Fantin G, Marescotti MC, Iori E, Tiengo A, Crepaldi G. The effects of physiologic hyperinsulinemia and hyperaminoacidemia, alone or in combination, on leucine kinetics in vivo were studied in postabsorptive healthy subjects with primed-constant infusions of L-[4,5-3H]leucine and [1-14C]alpha-ketoisocaproate (KIC) under euglycemic conditions. Hyperinsulinemia (approximately 100 microU/ml) decreased (P less than 0.05 vs. baseline) steady state Leucine + KIC rates of appearance (Ra) from proteolysis, KIC (approximately leucine-carbon) oxidation, and nonoxidized leucine-carbon flux (leucine----protein). Hyperaminoacidemia (plasma leucine, 210 mumol/liter), with either basal hormone replacement or combined to hyperinsulinemia, resulted in comparable increases in leucine + KIC Ra, KIC oxidation, and leucine----protein (P less than 0.05 vs. baseline). However, endogenous leucine + KIC Ra was suppressed only with the combined infusion. Therefore, on the basis of leucine kinetic data, hyperinsulinemia and hyperaminoacidemia stimulated net protein anabolism in vivo by different mechanisms. Hyperinsulinemia decreased proteolysis but did not stimulate leucine----protein. Hyperaminoacidemia per se stimulated leucine----protein but did not suppress endogenous proteolysis. When combined, they had a cumulative effect on net leucine deposition into body protein. PMID: 3549777 [PubMed - indexed for MEDLINE] |
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Carbohydrates offer some help in muscle protein synthesis, but not enough for the desired effect
"David" wrote in message ... "Mike V" wrote in message ink.net... "Lee Michaels" wrote in message news:z87%b.409140$na.796892@attbi_s04... "Mike V" whined A nasty SOB are you not? I am delighted not to be one of your friends. MikeV This may help you understand this newsgroup. http://home.comcast.net/~mfw/ Pay particular attention to # 19, # 23, # 24 and the closing remarks. Thanks for the fine info, Lee. Had I realized I was including the viagra users' group in my comment, I would have made appropriate allowance for the general level of intellectual discourse attained over there! Sorry, ;-( MikeV there are some pretty good people in this group - this guy just happens to be a prick I'm relieved, Dave. Apologies to all said 'good people', sidenafil citrate users, and all disadvantaged folks wherever they may be surfing. Sincerely, Mike |
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