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Old August 4th, 2004, 07:36 AM
S t a c i
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Something I found in the international edition of USA Today this morning:

http://www.usatoday.com/news/opinion...2-forum1_x.htm

It's not rocket science, but I found this bit interesting (no source for
study provided):

"But in truth, people who skip breakfast are 450% more likely to be
overweight or obese. They are training their bodies to store fat, the way
you are if you skip meals regularly."

S t a c i



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Old August 5th, 2004, 01:03 AM
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S t a c i wrote:
Something I found in the international edition of USA Today this morning:

http://www.usatoday.com/news/opinion...2-forum1_x.htm

It's not rocket science, but I found this bit interesting (no source for
study provided):

"But in truth, people who skip breakfast are 450% more likely to be
overweight or obese. They are training their bodies to store fat, the way
you are if you skip meals regularly."


The "450%" should be a clue that the number was pulled out of
someone's ass and the statement is bull****. Not eating breakfast
doesn't cause fat-storage any more than the oft-touted advice to
not eat anything in the evening does.

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Old August 5th, 2004, 01:03 AM
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S t a c i wrote:
Something I found in the international edition of USA Today this morning:

http://www.usatoday.com/news/opinion...2-forum1_x.htm

It's not rocket science, but I found this bit interesting (no source for
study provided):

"But in truth, people who skip breakfast are 450% more likely to be
overweight or obese. They are training their bodies to store fat, the way
you are if you skip meals regularly."


The "450%" should be a clue that the number was pulled out of
someone's ass and the statement is bull****. Not eating breakfast
doesn't cause fat-storage any more than the oft-touted advice to
not eat anything in the evening does.

--
jamie )

"There's a seeker born every minute."

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Old August 5th, 2004, 06:02 AM
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S t a c i wrote:
| Something I found in the international edition of USA Today this
| morning:
|
| http://www.usatoday.com/news/opinion...2-forum1_x.htm
|
| It's not rocket science, but I found this bit interesting (no source
| for study provided):
|
| "But in truth, people who skip breakfast are 450% more likely to be
| overweight or obese. They are training their bodies to store fat, the
| way you are if you skip meals regularly."
|
| S t a c i


Bull, pure and simple -- IMO. It's somebody's voodoo self-justification for
eating too much too often. Nobody ever got fat by not eating. The quote
had no scientific data to back it up, and it is stated the article was
written as an "opinion." The guy who wrote the article is a moron and is
perpetuating an old myth -- because it's what he's always been told. His
advocating eating constantly all day long is the same anti-thinking as the
ADA that has contributed to thousands of diabetics getting fatter and fatter
and their blood sugar levels getting more and more out of control. The key
to weight loss as we all know, is eating less and eating less starches and
sugars. The resulting ketosis provides us witn a steady source of fuel 24/7
and makes specific meals irrelevant. Many of never eat breakfast. I never
have, and think it makes no sense at all to add another meal and more
calories to my day in order to lose weight.

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Old August 5th, 2004, 09:45 AM
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"J David Anderson" wrote in message
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Sorry, marengo, I answered the right post, but used the OP's name. I
called you Staci, I should have used marengo.



Thanks for clearing that up, David. Just because I posted the article
doesn't necessarily mean I agree with it or any of the subsequent posts!
S t a c i


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Old August 5th, 2004, 10:59 AM
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J David Anderson wrote:

You opinion doesn't have much support among qualified professionals
Staci. The way most often suggested for ideal meal planning is to eat up
to six small meals per day.


That's suggested mainly because most people dieting on low-fat
high-carb need to eat that frequently to limit carb
rebound hunger from the blood sugar going up and down. It's not
necessary on LC.

Skipping breakfast isn't "not eating" it is messing with the metabolism.

If you put your body into a "famine or feast" routine, it will respond
by trying to take advantage of the feast and store energy (as fat) for
the next famine. As the time period between feast and famine is too
small to allow the use of the stored fat, the fat builds up.

Like it or not, believe it or not, that is the way it works.


Not eating a few more hours a day doesn't trigger a famine response
in anybody's metabolism. There's a huge difference between fasting
and having 2 meals daily instead of 3.

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Old August 5th, 2004, 10:59 AM
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J David Anderson wrote:

You opinion doesn't have much support among qualified professionals
Staci. The way most often suggested for ideal meal planning is to eat up
to six small meals per day.


That's suggested mainly because most people dieting on low-fat
high-carb need to eat that frequently to limit carb
rebound hunger from the blood sugar going up and down. It's not
necessary on LC.

Skipping breakfast isn't "not eating" it is messing with the metabolism.

If you put your body into a "famine or feast" routine, it will respond
by trying to take advantage of the feast and store energy (as fat) for
the next famine. As the time period between feast and famine is too
small to allow the use of the stored fat, the fat builds up.

Like it or not, believe it or not, that is the way it works.


Not eating a few more hours a day doesn't trigger a famine response
in anybody's metabolism. There's a huge difference between fasting
and having 2 meals daily instead of 3.

--
jamie )

"There's a seeker born every minute."

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Old August 5th, 2004, 02:14 PM
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J David Anderson wrote:
| On Thu, 5 Aug 2004 01:02:11 -0400, "marengo"
| wrote:
|
|| S t a c i wrote:
||| Something I found in the international edition of USA Today this
||| morning:
|||
||| http://www.usatoday.com/news/opinion...2-forum1_x.htm
|||
||| It's not rocket science, but I found this bit interesting (no source
||| for study provided):
|||
||| "But in truth, people who skip breakfast are 450% more likely to be
||| overweight or obese. They are training their bodies to store fat,
||| the way you are if you skip meals regularly."
|||
||| S t a c i
||
||
|| Bull, pure and simple -- IMO.
|
| You opinion doesn't have much support among qualified professionals
| Staci. The way most often suggested for ideal meal planning is to eat
| up to six small meals per day.
|
These same "qualified professionals" that are telling people to eat six
small meals a day are still telling people that eating cholesterol and fat
raises your cholesterol levels, makes you obese and gives you heart attacks
and strokes. It's outddated, incorrect thinking based on a tradition of
incorrect science. Otherwise we'd all be on a low-fat diet with plenty or
grains, fruits and baked potatoes like they recommend!

--
Peter
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Old August 5th, 2004, 02:16 PM
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S t a c i wrote:
| "J David Anderson" wrote in message
| ...
|
|| Sorry, marengo, I answered the right post, but used the OP's name. I
|| called you Staci, I should have used marengo.
||
||
|
| Thanks for clearing that up, David. Just because I posted the article
| doesn't necessarily mean I agree with it or any of the subsequent
| posts! S t a c i


I assumed that Stai; I was disagreeing with the author of the article, not
with you. :-)
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Old August 5th, 2004, 02:41 PM
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On Thu, 5 Aug 2004 09:14:58 -0400, marengo wrote:

J David Anderson wrote:
| On Thu, 5 Aug 2004 01:02:11 -0400, "marengo"
| wrote:
|
|| S t a c i wrote:
||| Something I found in the international edition of USA Today this
||| morning:
|||
|||
http://www.usatoday.com/news/opinion...2-forum1_x.htm
|||
||| It's not rocket science, but I found this bit interesting (no source
||| for study provided):
|||
||| "But in truth, people who skip breakfast are 450% more likely to be
||| overweight or obese. They are training their bodies to store fat,
||| the way you are if you skip meals regularly."
|||
||| S t a c i
||
||
|| Bull, pure and simple -- IMO.
|
| You opinion doesn't have much support among qualified professionals
| Staci. The way most often suggested for ideal meal planning is to eat
| up to six small meals per day.
|
These same "qualified professionals" that are telling people to eat six
small meals a day are still telling people that eating cholesterol and
fat
raises your cholesterol levels, makes you obese and gives you heart
attacks
and strokes. It's outddated, incorrect thinking based on a tradition of
incorrect science. Otherwise we'd all be on a low-fat diet with plenty
or
grains, fruits and baked potatoes like they recommend!


Except that neither of these jive with what I'm experiencing. I still
like to eat about 6 meals a day and eat low carb. I find it very hard not
to eat at least 4 meals a day, especially when exercising (and where a
"meal" can be a raw cucumber).

--
Bob in CT
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