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  #51  
Old April 8th, 2004, 08:46 PM
DigitalVinyl
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wrote:

On Wed, 7 Apr 2004 21:58:18 -0500, "revek"
wrote:

Chrono-Z burbled across the ether:
Promoting low-carb and supporting others doing low-carb doesnt
translate into vicious bashing of anything else not low-carb. It's a
maturity issue. Bashing things out of ignorance does nothing for your
cause.


Cause? This group's "cause" is to support those who want to lowcarb.

The bashers come here to harrass lowcarbers, lowcarbers don't go out to
other groups to bash anybody. I say the bashers who come here get what
they give (and deserve). It's not like they're going to actually
*listen* to anybody here. These are trolls after all.

Now if you want to have a real discussion amongst sensible people
(non-trolls) then you'd find Peter quite sensible on the subject
although enthusiastic about his personal epiphany. But this is not that
kind of thread.


So, in other words, anyone who is on another diet, or only partially
does low-carb, and does not follow the Atkins cult to perfection is
unwelcome.

Ya know what I say to that........ BULL**** !!!!!

If you look at the name of this newsgroup
alt.support.diet.low-carb
It first falls under the "support" category, for which there are
support groups for all kinds of things.

The next word is the key word "DIET".
What are you here to discuss? (((Diet))).

The final word "low-carb" specifies the type of diet. However, the
earlier word (diet) allows for more broad discussions about diet.


You know precious little about NNTP newsgroups so perhaps you should
limit yourself to staying on topic--oh wait you don't GET that concept
either.

****IF**** you want to talk about general dieting issues and NOT
low-carb dieting issues you would use the "alt.support.diet"
***THAT*** is why ***THAT*** group exists. Can numbnutz guess why they
created a low-carb specific group?

As long as the topic is about diet, it's allowed. There's a reason
these newsgroups are set up as they are.

Yep and you are clueless why.

That's why there is
alt.support.diet
alt.support.diet.fit-for-life
alt.support.diet.low-carb
alt.support.diet.low-fat
alt.support.diet.paleolithic
alt.support.diet.rx
alt.support.diet.weigh****chers
alt.support.diet.zone

According to you "theorY" of discussing anything along the hierarchy,
you can discuss any support topic from spousal-abuse to
cancer-survicors in alt.support.diet because the name has "SUPPORT" in
it.

Its the same as if there was a newsgroup called
alt.animals.pets.cats.whiskers.

Would you only talk about the cats whiskers,

YES you idiot. That would be ***EXACTLY*** why the original request
was sent out to initiate the group to create a group specifically for
low-carb discussion only. Get a brain!

or would you talk about
cats, and possibly other pets too? It's all acceptible.

No it's not. there would be a alt.animal.pets groups where dogs and
cats would be discussed. Have you got it yet?

Now if you started a topic about automotive repair, that would be off
topic.

Not apparently if it was a "support" topic since we have "support" in
the title.


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  #53  
Old April 8th, 2004, 08:54 PM
DJ Delorie
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DigitalVinyl writes:
Now if you started a topic about automotive repair, that would be off
topic.

Not apparently if it was a "support" topic since we have "support" in
the title.


We could talk about car alternators :-)
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Old April 8th, 2004, 09:58 PM
The King of Pots and Pans
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On Thu, 08 Apr 2004 at 17:43 GMT, spoke:

If you want to avoid being called a troll, you must agree with
everyone on the group, and only post things that will please
everyone.


Untrue. I disagree with people here. Sometimes I make it known. I'm
not called a troll. I think I'm not called a troll because I'm here
for SUPPORT in low-carb eating as the newsgroup name implies.

There's also a thing called "freedom of speech", and as long as you
are talking about things closely or indirectly related to the topic,
you are using the group for what it was intended.


You aren't using the group for what it was intended. It was intended
to support each other; giving support to those who follow the low carb
way of eating. So you are not on topic; hence the troll word.

If people carried over the use of the word troll into real life, and
used it like they do on these nessgroups, then most politicians
would be called trolls because most of the time we dont like what
they say.


Are you kidding? Most politicians say what you WANT to hear. That is
why most of them are lying crooks.

In reality they are the REAL "troll" according to the actual meaning
of the word, because they are not adding anything useful to the
group.


That's not my understanding of the definition of troll. My
understanding is that a troll is a person who posts inflammatory
messages to birth more inflammatory messages, and is often
off-topic. You're trolling for a rise out of people.


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Old April 8th, 2004, 11:06 PM
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On Thu, 08 Apr 2004 04:00:09 GMT, "Chrono-Z" wrote:

I agree, but what if someone who wasn't a newsgroup regular and was just
looking here thinking of doing low-carb sees someone telling someone else to
do it or die. That's all, no need to turn it into something else.

Most of the people here are cultists. Logic is meaningless to them.
There is only one way, "their" way, and no other thought is allowed.
So if you don't do it their way you are a troll. Good v Evil rules
here.

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Old April 8th, 2004, 11:08 PM
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And nobody ever has gallbladder problems unless they go on Atkins? Unless
you have more information than you are relating I don't see any proof of
cause and effect here.

In om,
Chrono-Z stated
| You know i'm actually starting to agree with you about the
| brainwashing thing. I was on atkins for 3 months and yes I lost some
| weight, but it wasn't with out a price. Just 2 weeks ago I was in the
| emergency room with a morphine iv drip in my arm. Apparently my
| gallbladder had became mysteriously enflamed. The doctor said my
| liver and kidney functions were horrid. He said he's seen a couple of
| people come in with similar problems. He refered me to a dietician
| who worked with me and helped me form a healthy way of eatting that
| was loosly based on a diabetic diet that was well rounded and limited
| calories to a respectable amount. I don't care how much fat or
| protein keeps me from being hungry. I can deal with being hungry a
| few weeks until my body gets used to the lower ammount of calories.
| It beats the hell out of being in the hospital again.
|
| wrote in message
| news || On Wed, 07 Apr 2004 04:36:27 GMT, "marengo"
|| wrote:
||
||| wrote:
|||| Here PROOF - Atkins is a QUACK. This is on the web....
|||
||| snip the silly propoganda
|||
||| I feel sorry for you. I truly do. How lonely it must be out there
||| these days for the anti-Atkins trolls! Now that Dr. Atkins' work
||| has been vindicated; the health benefits of controlled-carbohydrate
||| diets proven with scientific studies; the fast food industry groing
||| through a low-carb marketing revolution; and controlled carb eating
||| becoming more and more accepted by even the mainstream medical
||| communtiy.
|||
||
|| I feel sorry for you. You are so lacking in self worth that you
|| allowed the Atkins cult to brainwash you so far that even these facts
|| which I posted in black and white, right before your very eyes mean
|| nothing. Oh well, it's no skin off my back. When the acids begin
|| coming out of your pores and you smell so bad that no one wants to be
|| around you, right before your kidneys fail, and you have your heart
|| attack, just remember what I said, and what these websites PROVED.
|| I suggest you read EVERY WORD of what I posted, not just the first
|| paragraph. Did you actually read the part about Atkins heart
|| problems and clogged arteries? (I doubt it). There are four
|| extensive web articles posted here. Of course, I know your "type".
|| Just like those brainwashed kids that burned to death in Waco TX,
|| brainwashed and controlled by David Koresh, brainwashed right into
|| their graves, you will follow Atkins right into your grave. It's
|| the spineless types like yourself that are so easily persuaded into
|| these fraudulant scam cults, and you will pay with your life.
||
|| I'll never change your mind, because it's too late for you. Atkins
|| is your cult leader, and no one else is right. But there are others
|| who still have their own minds, and they may still have hope, and
|| some of them will be saved from their own destruction.
||
|| Atkins was and his messages are quackery. The truths are becoming
|| more and more evident. Soon the fad will end, and only those like
|| yourself will continue to rot away while your arteries clog. Your
|| life will pass, and the rest of us will still be here trying to
|| comprehend how people like yourself can allow some obese dead man who
|| died from heart conditions, make you believe he's a diet guru.
||
|| My final note to you. There are deprogrammers out there who can
|| deprogram people who are consumed by a cult. I suggest you contact
|| one of them. You need one.


 




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