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Old March 9th, 2008, 05:56 PM posted to alt.support.diet
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Everyone here has probably yo-yoed a time or two (or ten). If we
didn't have a tendency to overeat...make that a strong urge, we would
not have gotten overweight to begin with. OK, using any number of diet
schemes, you do manage to lose a bunch of weight. Now you transition
into a new mode...maintenance. This is a dangerous time as far as your
wt. control is concerned. Why? Because when you gain weight, you do
not do it all at once. Oh no, it is more subtle than that. You do it
by letting your defenses and good judgment down. Overeating once in a
while can't hurt afterall, you can always work out a little more or
eat a little less the next day. Then you find something that interfers
with your exercise routine and you overeat on a regular basis. Next,
where you previously weighed yourself everyday to see your wt. loss
progress, now, since you subconsciously know you are gaining, you stop
weighing yourself altogether. Probably, you religiously counted
calories, or carbs or whatever before, but now you stop that too. You
are past the point of no return. This is how it always happened to me.
I'm sure there are other scenarios and I would like to hear why your
previous diets might have failed. The next time you start to diet it
is because you realize you have turned into a glutton, are unhealthy,
look and feel fat and are thoroughly discusted with yourself. So it
begins again.

If this hasn't happened to you, I would like to know what did work for
you. For me, having lost 95 pounds and keeping it off over 3 years
now, the thing that worked was will power. What I did was make a
pledge to myself NEVER EVER to overeat. I consume my 2025 calories a
day and STOP eating. I also pledged to work out on a regular
basis...for me that is 6X a week, without fail. OK, if I were to
become ill or injured, I know I couldn't live up to that one, but
there is no other reason I will accept. So far, I haven't missed a day
in over 5 years.

I am interested in how people have maintained their weight loss, not
so much how they lost or are losing weight. Presumably, everyone knows
one way or another to lose weight, but keeping it off for an extended
period of time seems to be the key. dkw
  #2  
Old March 9th, 2008, 09:46 PM posted to alt.support.diet
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On Mar 9, 1:56*pm, " wrote:
Everyone here has probably yo-yoed a time or two (or ten). If we
didn't have a tendency to overeat...make that a strong urge, we would
not have gotten overweight to begin with. OK, using any number of diet
schemes, you do manage to lose a bunch of weight. Now you transition
into a new mode...maintenance. This is a dangerous time as far as your
wt. control is concerned. Why? Because when you gain weight, you do
not do it all at once. Oh no, it is more subtle than that. You do it
by letting your defenses and good judgment down. Overeating once in a
while can't hurt afterall, you can always work out a little more or
eat a little less the next day. Then you find something that interfers
with your exercise routine and you overeat on a regular basis. Next,
where you previously weighed yourself everyday to see your wt. loss
progress, now, since you subconsciously know you are gaining, you stop
weighing yourself altogether. Probably, you religiously counted
calories, or carbs or whatever before, but now you stop that too. You
are past the point of no return. This is how it always happened to me.
I'm sure there are other scenarios and I would like to hear why your
previous diets might have failed. The next time you start to diet it
is because you realize you have turned into a glutton, are unhealthy,
look and feel fat and are thoroughly discusted with yourself. So it
begins again.

If this hasn't happened to you, I would like to know what did work for
you. For me, having lost 95 pounds and keeping it off over 3 years
now, the thing that worked was will power. What I did was make a
pledge to myself NEVER EVER to overeat. I consume my 2025 calories a
day and STOP eating. I also pledged to work out on a regular
basis...for me that is 6X a week, without fail. OK, if I were to
become ill or injured, I know I couldn't live up to that one, but
there is no other reason I will accept. So far, I haven't missed a day
in over 5 years.

I am interested in how people have maintained their weight loss, not
so much how they lost or are losing weight. Presumably, everyone knows
one way or another to lose weight, but keeping it off for an extended
period of time seems to be the key. dkw


The reason people have to diet to begin with is that their natural
nutritional systems are flawed; they CANT accurately tell when they've
eaten their fill. When you diet, you replace your natural mechanisms
with your diet. Counting calories, restructuring meals, whatever.

The problem with maintenance is that people to back to their old,
still BROKEN mechanisms for handling nutrition. The obvious
consequence is a resurgence of the same habits that led to the weight
problem to begin with.


The key, as far as I can tell (personally, I've just begun the arduous
journey to a healthy weight), is to monitor the situation. Keep an
eye on your weight, take an occasional look at your daily intake,
etc. Set a limit weight and tell yourself that if you ever reach that
weight, you'll reinstate a milder version of your weight loss diet,
and cruise comfortably back down to your proper weight before those
extra pounds begin to show in your appearance and the way your clothes
fit.

A tendency to be overweight is just like poor eyesight or dandruff;
you can't rely on your body to manage the situation. You fix the
problem (glasses or shampoo), and you get on with life.

Weight loss is a huge event, and the lasting mark it should leave is
the realization that you need to monitor and control your eating
habits to avoid getting back to that awful point.
  #3  
Old March 9th, 2008, 10:09 PM posted to alt.support.diet
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James G said...

The reason people have to diet to begin with is that their natural
nutritional systems are flawed; they CANT accurately tell when they've
eaten their fill. When you diet, you replace your natural mechanisms
with your diet. Counting calories, restructuring meals, whatever.

The problem with maintenance is that people to back to their old,
still BROKEN mechanisms for handling nutrition. The obvious
consequence is a resurgence of the same habits that led to the weight
problem to begin with.


The key, as far as I can tell (personally, I've just begun the arduous
journey to a healthy weight), is to monitor the situation. Keep an
eye on your weight, take an occasional look at your daily intake,
etc. Set a limit weight and tell yourself that if you ever reach that
weight, you'll reinstate a milder version of your weight loss diet,
and cruise comfortably back down to your proper weight before those
extra pounds begin to show in your appearance and the way your clothes
fit.

A tendency to be overweight is just like poor eyesight or dandruff;
you can't rely on your body to manage the situation. You fix the
problem (glasses or shampoo), and you get on with life.

Weight loss is a huge event, and the lasting mark it should leave is
the realization that you need to monitor and control your eating
habits to avoid getting back to that awful point.



HFCS, high fructose corn syrup is a genetically engineered sweetener.

Aside from being a super sweet sugar additive, it's also known for it's bad
brain effect. It blocks the brain from telling itself when it's full.
You'll eat more and in return shop more and buy more products with it, as a
result.

So knock off the HFCS. It's amazing where they put that stuff in foods that
aren't even sweet.

Beware!

Andy

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Old March 9th, 2008, 11:05 PM posted to alt.support.diet
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On Mar 9, 2:46*pm, James G wrote:
On Mar 9, 1:56*pm, " wrote:





Everyone here has probably yo-yoed a time or two (or ten). If we
didn't have a tendency to overeat...make that a strong urge, we would
not have gotten overweight to begin with. OK, using any number of diet
schemes, you do manage to lose a bunch of weight. Now you transition
into a new mode...maintenance. This is a dangerous time as far as your
wt. control is concerned. Why? Because when you gain weight, you do
not do it all at once. Oh no, it is more subtle than that. You do it
by letting your defenses and good judgment down. Overeating once in a
while can't hurt afterall, you can always work out a little more or
eat a little less the next day. Then you find something that interfers
with your exercise routine and you overeat on a regular basis. Next,
where you previously weighed yourself everyday to see your wt. loss
progress, now, since you subconsciously know you are gaining, you stop
weighing yourself altogether. Probably, you religiously counted
calories, or carbs or whatever before, but now you stop that too. You
are past the point of no return. This is how it always happened to me.
I'm sure there are other scenarios and I would like to hear why your
previous diets might have failed. The next time you start to diet it
is because you realize you have turned into a glutton, are unhealthy,
look and feel fat and are thoroughly discusted with yourself. So it
begins again.


If this hasn't happened to you, I would like to know what did work for
you. For me, having lost 95 pounds and keeping it off over 3 years
now, the thing that worked was will power. What I did was make a
pledge to myself NEVER EVER to overeat. I consume my 2025 calories a
day and STOP eating. I also pledged to work out on a regular
basis...for me that is 6X a week, without fail. OK, if I were to
become ill or injured, I know I couldn't live up to that one, but
there is no other reason I will accept. So far, I haven't missed a day
in over 5 years.


I am interested in how people have maintained their weight loss, not
so much how they lost or are losing weight. Presumably, everyone knows
one way or another to lose weight, but keeping it off for an extended
period of time seems to be the key. dkw


The reason people have to diet to begin with is that their natural
nutritional systems are flawed; they CANT accurately tell when they've
eaten their fill. *When you diet, you replace your natural mechanisms
with your diet. *Counting calories, restructuring meals, whatever.

The problem with maintenance is that people to back to their old,
still BROKEN mechanisms for handling nutrition. *The obvious
consequence is a resurgence of the same habits that led to the weight
problem to begin with.

The key, as far as I can tell (personally, I've just begun the arduous
journey to a healthy weight), is to monitor the situation. *Keep an
eye on your weight, take an occasional look at your daily intake,
etc. *Set a limit weight and tell yourself that if you ever reach that
weight, you'll reinstate a milder version of your weight loss diet,
and cruise comfortably back down to your proper weight before those
extra pounds begin to show in your appearance and the way your clothes
fit.

A tendency to be overweight is just like poor eyesight or dandruff;
you can't rely on your body to manage the situation. *You fix the
problem (glasses or shampoo), and you get on with life.

Weight loss is a huge event, and the lasting mark it should leave is
the realization that you need to monitor and control your eating
habits to avoid getting back to that awful point.- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -


I agree, except I won't allow any fudge factors. It makes some sense
of course that you can try overeating a little until you reach some
slightly higher weight that you have set for yourself as acceptable.
This would be necessary of course if you dieted too much and lost more
than you intended, or weren't happy with your lightest weight....but,
giving yourself ANY wiggle room such as saying OK, if I gain 10
pounds, then I'll lose the weight again is still a yo-yo diet and it
becomes very difficult all over again to lose that wt.... granted, not
as hard as losing 50 pounds, but still hard. What you propose seems to
be very reasonable and of course it can work...just not for me. It is
kind of the equivalent of cheating on your spouse "just once". I can't
say for sure, but I don't think that actually happens much. People who
cheat on their spouse seem to do it more than once. Taking that first
drink for an ex-alcoholic might be another analogy. While food is not
the enemy and we have to eat but not drink alcohol or cheat on our
spouses, I think overeating IS the enemy and I just won't go
there....EVER. That's what I know works. When I would yo-yo before, I
always started out just gained a few pounds that would have been very
easy to monitor, then lose again. Problem is, I never did lose again
until one day a year or so later, I would become disgusted with myself
and then go on another diet, usually a crash-type diet. Emotionally
and physically, this may not be so great for a person either although
you certainly do feel good about yourself when you are losing, but
perhaps you make up for that by feeling bad about yourself when you
finally realize you are fat (again). This is not a criticism of your
idea because I know it would, should and can work. It never did for me
though. dkw
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Old March 9th, 2008, 11:20 PM posted to alt.support.diet
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On Mar 9, 3:09*pm, Andy q wrote:
James G said...





The reason people have to diet to begin with is that their natural
nutritional systems are flawed; they CANT accurately tell when they've
eaten their fill. *When you diet, you replace your natural mechanisms
with your diet. *Counting calories, restructuring meals, whatever.


The problem with maintenance is that people to back to their old,
still BROKEN mechanisms for handling nutrition. *The obvious
consequence is a resurgence of the same habits that led to the weight
problem to begin with.


The key, as far as I can tell (personally, I've just begun the arduous
journey to a healthy weight), is to monitor the situation. *Keep an
eye on your weight, take an occasional look at your daily intake,
etc. *Set a limit weight and tell yourself that if you ever reach that
weight, you'll reinstate a milder version of your weight loss diet,
and cruise comfortably back down to your proper weight before those
extra pounds begin to show in your appearance and the way your clothes
fit.


A tendency to be overweight is just like poor eyesight or dandruff;
you can't rely on your body to manage the situation. *You fix the
problem (glasses or shampoo), and you get on with life.


Weight loss is a huge event, and the lasting mark it should leave is
the realization that you need to monitor and control your eating
habits to avoid getting back to that awful point.


HFCS, high fructose corn syrup is a genetically engineered sweetener.

Aside from being a super sweet sugar additive, it's also known for it's bad
brain *effect. It blocks the brain from telling itself when it's full.
You'll eat more and in return shop more and buy more products with it, as a
result.

So knock off the HFCS. It's amazing where they put that stuff in foods that
aren't even sweet.

Beware!

Andy- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -


I personally never touch the stuff. I think the HFCS is like the
second ingredient in a lot of prepared cereals like corn flakes that
most people find they want to add sugar to anyway. I eat almost
exclusively whole grains and nothing that has any added sweetners. I
do use a lot of artificial sweetner. Perhaps that will come back to
haunt me, but far as I can tell I am healthy and I been using it for
years, even when I was overweight. I think they use a lot of corn
sweetner because it is cheap and sells the products. Nobody I know
thinks it is good for you.

When I used to eat a lot of it, like in a candy bar, I would get this
strange feeling in my esophagus, whatever the heck that was. Hey, they
even put the stuff in horse and most animal food. Apparently it isn't
just people who like the stuff. I actually had a casualty from Purina
Goat Chow, which contains molasses and corn syrup. I could be wrong
about the corn syrup, but it has a lot of some kind of sweetners.
Anyway, I had a wonderful dairy goat that developed cavities and could
not eat properly so I sold her for meat while she was still reasonably
healthy. She had stopped milking though. Can you imagine the problems
that crap causes just with tooth decay in humans? dkw
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Old March 9th, 2008, 11:31 PM posted to alt.support.diet
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On Mar 9, 7:05 pm, " wrote:
On Mar 9, 2:46 pm, James G wrote:



On Mar 9, 1:56 pm, " wrote:


Everyone here has probably yo-yoed a time or two (or ten). If we
didn't have a tendency to overeat...make that a strong urge, we would
not have gotten overweight to begin with. OK, using any number of diet
schemes, you do manage to lose a bunch of weight. Now you transition
into a new mode...maintenance. This is a dangerous time as far as your
wt. control is concerned. Why? Because when you gain weight, you do
not do it all at once. Oh no, it is more subtle than that. You do it
by letting your defenses and good judgment down. Overeating once in a
while can't hurt afterall, you can always work out a little more or
eat a little less the next day. Then you find something that interfers
with your exercise routine and you overeat on a regular basis. Next,
where you previously weighed yourself everyday to see your wt. loss
progress, now, since you subconsciously know you are gaining, you stop
weighing yourself altogether. Probably, you religiously counted
calories, or carbs or whatever before, but now you stop that too. You
are past the point of no return. This is how it always happened to me.
I'm sure there are other scenarios and I would like to hear why your
previous diets might have failed. The next time you start to diet it
is because you realize you have turned into a glutton, are unhealthy,
look and feel fat and are thoroughly discusted with yourself. So it
begins again.


If this hasn't happened to you, I would like to know what did work for
you. For me, having lost 95 pounds and keeping it off over 3 years
now, the thing that worked was will power. What I did was make a
pledge to myself NEVER EVER to overeat. I consume my 2025 calories a
day and STOP eating. I also pledged to work out on a regular
basis...for me that is 6X a week, without fail. OK, if I were to
become ill or injured, I know I couldn't live up to that one, but
there is no other reason I will accept. So far, I haven't missed a day
in over 5 years.


I am interested in how people have maintained their weight loss, not
so much how they lost or are losing weight. Presumably, everyone knows
one way or another to lose weight, but keeping it off for an extended
period of time seems to be the key. dkw


The reason people have to diet to begin with is that their natural
nutritional systems are flawed; they CANT accurately tell when they've
eaten their fill. When you diet, you replace your natural mechanisms
with your diet. Counting calories, restructuring meals, whatever.


The problem with maintenance is that people to back to their old,
still BROKEN mechanisms for handling nutrition. The obvious
consequence is a resurgence of the same habits that led to the weight
problem to begin with.


The key, as far as I can tell (personally, I've just begun the arduous
journey to a healthy weight), is to monitor the situation. Keep an
eye on your weight, take an occasional look at your daily intake,
etc. Set a limit weight and tell yourself that if you ever reach that
weight, you'll reinstate a milder version of your weight loss diet,
and cruise comfortably back down to your proper weight before those
extra pounds begin to show in your appearance and the way your clothes
fit.


A tendency to be overweight is just like poor eyesight or dandruff;
you can't rely on your body to manage the situation. You fix the
problem (glasses or shampoo), and you get on with life.


Weight loss is a huge event, and the lasting mark it should leave is
the realization that you need to monitor and control your eating
habits to avoid getting back to that awful point.- Hide quoted text -


- Show quoted text -


I agree, except I won't allow any fudge factors. It makes some sense
of course that you can try overeating a little until you reach some
slightly higher weight that you have set for yourself as acceptable.
This would be necessary of course if you dieted too much and lost more
than you intended, or weren't happy with your lightest weight....but,
giving yourself ANY wiggle room such as saying OK, if I gain 10
pounds, then I'll lose the weight again is still a yo-yo diet and it
becomes very difficult all over again to lose that wt.... granted, not
as hard as losing 50 pounds, but still hard. What you propose seems to
be very reasonable and of course it can work...just not for me. It is
kind of the equivalent of cheating on your spouse "just once". I can't
say for sure, but I don't think that actually happens much. People who
cheat on their spouse seem to do it more than once. Taking that first
drink for an ex-alcoholic might be another analogy. While food is not
the enemy and we have to eat but not drink alcohol or cheat on our
spouses, I think overeating IS the enemy and I just won't go
there....EVER. That's what I know works. When I would yo-yo before, I
always started out just gained a few pounds that would have been very
easy to monitor, then lose again. Problem is, I never did lose again
until one day a year or so later, I would become disgusted with myself
and then go on another diet, usually a crash-type diet. Emotionally
and physically, this may not be so great for a person either although
you certainly do feel good about yourself when you are losing, but
perhaps you make up for that by feeling bad about yourself when you
finally realize you are fat (again). This is not a criticism of your
idea because I know it would, should and can work. It never did for me
though. dkw


When I say a weight to watch for, I'm talking something in the 5 lb
range, not gaining 20 and realizing it's time to cut back.

I personally chart my weight every day, with a smoothed average
comprising a weight trend (an average over the last 20 days, with
newer weight having more influence on the trend), according to John
Walker's Hacker's Diet (http://www.fourmilab.ch/hackdiet/e4/). The
plan for maintenance is, when I see my weight trend start to slope up,
I can make a very minor change (no snacks) in my daily routine to
cancel the uptrend. If it gets past a set point, I resume dieting
(which is the yo-yo bit, I suppose).

Don't get me wrong, I'm not encouraging the eat-what-you-like-then-
diet plan. But obsessing over making the exact number you think is
"ideal" every day can set an impossible goal.

At the end of the day, though, you just have to find whatever works
exactly for you, and keeps you at a healthy weight.
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Old March 9th, 2008, 11:39 PM posted to alt.support.diet
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"Andy" q wrote in message ...
James G said...

The reason people have to diet to begin with is that their natural
nutritional systems are flawed; they CANT accurately tell when they've
eaten their fill. When you diet, you replace your natural mechanisms
with your diet. Counting calories, restructuring meals, whatever.

The problem with maintenance is that people to back to their old,
still BROKEN mechanisms for handling nutrition. The obvious
consequence is a resurgence of the same habits that led to the weight
problem to begin with.


The key, as far as I can tell (personally, I've just begun the arduous
journey to a healthy weight), is to monitor the situation. Keep an
eye on your weight, take an occasional look at your daily intake,
etc. Set a limit weight and tell yourself that if you ever reach that
weight, you'll reinstate a milder version of your weight loss diet,
and cruise comfortably back down to your proper weight before those
extra pounds begin to show in your appearance and the way your clothes
fit.

A tendency to be overweight is just like poor eyesight or dandruff;
you can't rely on your body to manage the situation. You fix the
problem (glasses or shampoo), and you get on with life.

Weight loss is a huge event, and the lasting mark it should leave is
the realization that you need to monitor and control your eating
habits to avoid getting back to that awful point.



HFCS, high fructose corn syrup is a genetically engineered sweetener.

Aside from being a super sweet sugar additive, it's also known for it's
bad
brain effect. It blocks the brain from telling itself when it's full.
You'll eat more and in return shop more and buy more products with it,
as a
result.

So knock off the HFCS. It's amazing where they put that stuff in foods
that
aren't even sweet.

Beware!

Andy

HFCS might not be good for you, but it is not "genetically engineered"
any more than OSB is a genetically engineered tree.

maroon.


  #8  
Old March 9th, 2008, 11:56 PM posted to alt.support.diet
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On Mar 9, 4:31*pm, James G wrote:
On Mar 9, 7:05 pm, " wrote:





On Mar 9, 2:46 pm, James G wrote:


On Mar 9, 1:56 pm, " wrote:


Everyone here has probably yo-yoed a time or two (or ten). If we
didn't have a tendency to overeat...make that a strong urge, we would
not have gotten overweight to begin with. OK, using any number of diet
schemes, you do manage to lose a bunch of weight. Now you transition
into a new mode...maintenance. This is a dangerous time as far as your
wt. control is concerned. Why? Because when you gain weight, you do
not do it all at once. Oh no, it is more subtle than that. You do it
by letting your defenses and good judgment down. Overeating once in a
while can't hurt afterall, you can always work out a little more or
eat a little less the next day. Then you find something that interfers
with your exercise routine and you overeat on a regular basis. Next,
where you previously weighed yourself everyday to see your wt. loss
progress, now, since you subconsciously know you are gaining, you stop
weighing yourself altogether. Probably, you religiously counted
calories, or carbs or whatever before, but now you stop that too. You
are past the point of no return. This is how it always happened to me.
I'm sure there are other scenarios and I would like to hear why your
previous diets might have failed. The next time you start to diet it
is because you realize you have turned into a glutton, are unhealthy,
look and feel fat and are thoroughly discusted with yourself. So it
begins again.


If this hasn't happened to you, I would like to know what did work for
you. For me, having lost 95 pounds and keeping it off over 3 years
now, the thing that worked was will power. What I did was make a
pledge to myself NEVER EVER to overeat. I consume my 2025 calories a
day and STOP eating. I also pledged to work out on a regular
basis...for me that is 6X a week, without fail. OK, if I were to
become ill or injured, I know I couldn't live up to that one, but
there is no other reason I will accept. So far, I haven't missed a day
in over 5 years.


I am interested in how people have maintained their weight loss, not
so much how they lost or are losing weight. Presumably, everyone knows
one way or another to lose weight, but keeping it off for an extended
period of time seems to be the key. dkw


The reason people have to diet to begin with is that their natural
nutritional systems are flawed; they CANT accurately tell when they've
eaten their fill. *When you diet, you replace your natural mechanisms
with your diet. *Counting calories, restructuring meals, whatever.


The problem with maintenance is that people to back to their old,
still BROKEN mechanisms for handling nutrition. *The obvious
consequence is a resurgence of the same habits that led to the weight
problem to begin with.


The key, as far as I can tell (personally, I've just begun the arduous
journey to a healthy weight), is to monitor the situation. *Keep an
eye on your weight, take an occasional look at your daily intake,
etc. *Set a limit weight and tell yourself that if you ever reach that
weight, you'll reinstate a milder version of your weight loss diet,
and cruise comfortably back down to your proper weight before those
extra pounds begin to show in your appearance and the way your clothes
fit.


A tendency to be overweight is just like poor eyesight or dandruff;
you can't rely on your body to manage the situation. *You fix the
problem (glasses or shampoo), and you get on with life.


Weight loss is a huge event, and the lasting mark it should leave is
the realization that you need to monitor and control your eating
habits to avoid getting back to that awful point.- Hide quoted text -


- Show quoted text -


I agree, except I won't allow any fudge factors. It makes some sense
of course that you can try overeating a little until you reach some
slightly higher weight that you have set for yourself as acceptable.
This would be necessary of course if you dieted too much and lost more
than you intended, or weren't happy with your lightest weight....but,
giving yourself ANY wiggle room such as saying OK, if I gain 10
pounds, then I'll lose the weight again is still a yo-yo diet and it
becomes very difficult all over again to lose that wt.... granted, not
as hard as losing 50 pounds, but still hard. What you propose seems to
be very reasonable and of course it can work...just not for me. It is
kind of the equivalent of cheating on your spouse "just once". I can't
say for sure, but I don't think that actually happens much. People who
cheat on their spouse seem to do it more than once. Taking that first
drink for an ex-alcoholic might be another analogy. While food is not
the enemy and we have to eat but not drink alcohol or cheat on our
spouses, I think overeating IS the enemy and I just won't go
there....EVER. That's what I know works. When I would yo-yo before, I
always started out just gained a few pounds that would have been very
easy to monitor, then lose again. Problem is, I never did lose again
until one day a year or so later, I would become disgusted with myself
and then go on another diet, usually a crash-type diet. Emotionally
and physically, *this may not be so great for a person either although
you certainly do feel good about yourself when you are losing, but
perhaps you make up for that by feeling bad about yourself when you
finally realize you are fat (again). This is not a criticism of your
idea because I know it would, should and can work. It never did for me
though. dkw


When I say a weight to watch for, I'm talking something in the 5 lb
range, not gaining 20 and realizing it's time to cut back.

I personally chart my weight every day, with a smoothed average
comprising a weight trend (an average over the last 20 days, with
newer weight having more influence on the trend), according to John
Walker's Hacker's Diet (http://www.fourmilab.ch/hackdiet/e4/). *The
plan for maintenance is, when I see my weight trend start to slope up,
I can make a very minor change (no snacks) in my daily routine to
cancel the uptrend. *If it gets past a set point, I resume dieting
(which is the yo-yo bit, I suppose).

Don't get me wrong, I'm not encouraging the eat-what-you-like-then-
diet plan. *But obsessing over making the exact number you think is
"ideal" every day can set an impossible goal.

At the end of the day, though, you just have to find whatever works
exactly for you, and keeps you at a healthy weight.- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -


That works. Acutally, I do eat almost the same thing every day. That
works for me cause I already know exactly how many calories are in
what I eat and when I eat out, I always get a salad, or occasionally a
veggie at Subway, so there again, I know the calories. I admit I'm
obscessed about my diet and one of my favorite channels is the Food
Channel where they go to diners and eat huge portions of fattening
food like fried this and fried that. I also like the food eating
contests...well some of those are a little disgusting where they don't
actually eat the food, but make faces and swallow it whole, but I
guess it is sort of like reading Playboy or something like that where
you can look, but can't touch. Oh, yes, I'm obscessed, just like an ex-
alcoholic is obscessed with not drinking. I wonder if ex-alcoholics
collect ads for Budweiser or vodka?
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Del Cecchi said...

HFCS might not be good for you, but it is not "genetically engineered"
any more than OSB is a genetically engineered tree.

maroon.



It is VERY genetically engineered! Fidiot!!!

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