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Old November 11th, 2004, 05:11 PM
Jenny
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Default New Diet Drug - Devil in the Details

The new weight loss drug getting all the press caused some (but not all)
patients taking the highest dose to lose a whopping 5% of their body weight.

So if you were 250 lbs, you'd lose 12 lbs--about what you'd lose in 2 weeks
of induction. And you'd have to keep taking the (expensive) drug and
suffering it's not inconsiderable side effects to keep it off.

That is a far cry from miracle weight loss.

Studies have shown that losing 5% of weight is easy. In fact, it is only
after you hit that 5% that the body starts fighting back.

This is about people profiting from investment in the stock of the company
making this stuff, not health.


-- Jenny - Low Carbing for 5 years. Below goal for weight. Type 2 diabetes,
hba1c 5.7 .
Cut the carbs to respond to my email address!

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Old November 11th, 2004, 05:26 PM
Cheri
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I think you hit it right on the head Jenny. :-)

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Cheri

Jenny wrote in message ...
The new weight loss drug getting all the press caused some (but not

all)
patients taking the highest dose to lose a whopping 5% of their body

weight.

So if you were 250 lbs, you'd lose 12 lbs--about what you'd lose in 2

weeks
of induction. And you'd have to keep taking the (expensive) drug and
suffering it's not inconsiderable side effects to keep it off.

That is a far cry from miracle weight loss.

Studies have shown that losing 5% of weight is easy. In fact, it is

only
after you hit that 5% that the body starts fighting back.

This is about people profiting from investment in the stock of the

company
making this stuff, not health.


-- Jenny - Low Carbing for 5 years. Below goal for weight. Type 2

diabetes,
hba1c 5.7 .
Cut the carbs to respond to my email address!

Jenny's new site: What they Don't Tell You About Diabetes
http://www.geocities.com/lottadata4u/

Jenny's Low Carb Diet Facts & Figures
http://www.geocities.com/jenny_the_bean/

Looking for help controlling your blood sugar?
Visit http://www.alt-support-diabetes.org/...0Diagnosed.htm






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Old November 11th, 2004, 05:57 PM
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Jenny wrote:
||
|| This is about people profiting from investment in the stock
|| of the company making this stuff, not health.
||

Yep, another drug company con, with the willing support of
the media, to scam money from people too lazy or weak to
do what it takes to lose weight. It appears to be less effect
than a lifestyle change, eating health and exercise.

BJ


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Old November 11th, 2004, 05:57 PM
Carol Ann
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Jenny,

Did you get my personal email message??

Carol Ann
www.lowcarblosers.com ~ Home of the Monthly Weightloss Challenge!!
175/170/125
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"Jenny" wrote in message
...
The new weight loss drug getting all the press caused some (but not all)
patients taking the highest dose to lose a whopping 5% of their body
weight.

So if you were 250 lbs, you'd lose 12 lbs--about what you'd lose in 2
weeks
of induction. And you'd have to keep taking the (expensive) drug and
suffering it's not inconsiderable side effects to keep it off.

That is a far cry from miracle weight loss.

Studies have shown that losing 5% of weight is easy. In fact, it is only
after you hit that 5% that the body starts fighting back.

This is about people profiting from investment in the stock of the company
making this stuff, not health.


-- Jenny - Low Carbing for 5 years. Below goal for weight. Type 2
diabetes,
hba1c 5.7 .
Cut the carbs to respond to my email address!

Jenny's new site: What they Don't Tell You About Diabetes
http://www.geocities.com/lottadata4u/

Jenny's Low Carb Diet Facts & Figures
http://www.geocities.com/jenny_the_bean/

Looking for help controlling your blood sugar?
Visit http://www.alt-support-diabetes.org/...0Diagnosed.htm





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Old November 11th, 2004, 09:13 PM
jbuch
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Jenny wrote:
The new weight loss drug getting all the press caused some (but not all)
patients taking the highest dose to lose a whopping 5% of their body weight.

So if you were 250 lbs, you'd lose 12 lbs--about what you'd lose in 2 weeks
of induction. And you'd have to keep taking the (expensive) drug and
suffering it's not inconsiderable side effects to keep it off.

That is a far cry from miracle weight loss.

Studies have shown that losing 5% of weight is easy. In fact, it is only
after you hit that 5% that the body starts fighting back.

This is about people profiting from investment in the stock of the company
making this stuff, not health.



Reminds me of the premature announcement that a side effect of Prozac
was weight loss.

Several of my woman friends were EAGER to get a prescription.

Later, the whole thing died. Only a few peoplle managed to lose much
weight as a Prozac side effect.

Maybe it was because they didn't do "Depression Pig-Out" eating.

I could never find out more details of the weight loss flop.

Jim

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Old November 11th, 2004, 09:52 PM
curt
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Yeah, but it is the new miracle drug. lol To be honest, there are just too
many people looking for a pill that will improve their lives somehow. What
people don't seem to understand is that there are no shortcuts. Eat right
and exercise and you can get where you want to go, as we most of us know
here.

Curt



"Jenny" wrote in message
...
The new weight loss drug getting all the press caused some (but not all)
patients taking the highest dose to lose a whopping 5% of their body

weight.

So if you were 250 lbs, you'd lose 12 lbs--about what you'd lose in 2

weeks
of induction. And you'd have to keep taking the (expensive) drug and
suffering it's not inconsiderable side effects to keep it off.

That is a far cry from miracle weight loss.

Studies have shown that losing 5% of weight is easy. In fact, it is only
after you hit that 5% that the body starts fighting back.

This is about people profiting from investment in the stock of the company
making this stuff, not health.


-- Jenny - Low Carbing for 5 years. Below goal for weight. Type 2

diabetes,
hba1c 5.7 .
Cut the carbs to respond to my email address!

Jenny's new site: What they Don't Tell You About Diabetes
http://www.geocities.com/lottadata4u/

Jenny's Low Carb Diet Facts & Figures
http://www.geocities.com/jenny_the_bean/

Looking for help controlling your blood sugar?
Visit http://www.alt-support-diabetes.org/...0Diagnosed.htm






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Old November 12th, 2004, 12:57 AM
Jenny
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Carol Ann,

I didn't get your personal email. Did you remember to delete the "carbs"
from the email address?

-- Jenny - Low Carbing for 5 years. Below goal for weight. Type 2 diabetes,
hba1c 5.7 .
Cut the carbs to respond to my email address!

Jenny's new site: What they Don't Tell You About Diabetes
http://www.geocities.com/lottadata4u/

Jenny's Low Carb Diet Facts & Figures
http://www.geocities.com/jenny_the_bean/

Looking for help controlling your blood sugar?
Visit http://www.alt-support-diabetes.org/...0Diagnosed.htm


"Carol Ann" wrote in message
news:6QMkd.86550$R05.35043@attbi_s53...
Jenny,

Did you get my personal email message??

Carol Ann
www.lowcarblosers.com ~ Home of the Monthly Weightloss Challenge!!
175/170/125
http://share.shutterfly.com/osi.jsp?i=EeBNnDdizZNmHy Pics of Morgan




"Jenny" wrote in message
...
The new weight loss drug getting all the press caused some (but not all)
patients taking the highest dose to lose a whopping 5% of their body
weight.

So if you were 250 lbs, you'd lose 12 lbs--about what you'd lose in 2
weeks
of induction. And you'd have to keep taking the (expensive) drug and
suffering it's not inconsiderable side effects to keep it off.

That is a far cry from miracle weight loss.

Studies have shown that losing 5% of weight is easy. In fact, it is only
after you hit that 5% that the body starts fighting back.

This is about people profiting from investment in the stock of the

company
making this stuff, not health.


-- Jenny - Low Carbing for 5 years. Below goal for weight. Type 2
diabetes,
hba1c 5.7 .
Cut the carbs to respond to my email address!

Jenny's new site: What they Don't Tell You About Diabetes
http://www.geocities.com/lottadata4u/

Jenny's Low Carb Diet Facts & Figures
http://www.geocities.com/jenny_the_bean/

Looking for help controlling your blood sugar?
Visit http://www.alt-support-diabetes.org/...0Diagnosed.htm









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Old November 13th, 2004, 02:19 PM
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Jenny wrote:

The new weight loss drug getting all the press caused some (but not all)
patients taking the highest dose to lose a whopping 5% of their body weight.

So if you were 250 lbs, you'd lose 12 lbs--about what you'd lose in 2 weeks
of induction. And you'd have to keep taking the (expensive) drug and
suffering it's not inconsiderable side effects to keep it off.

That is a far cry from miracle weight loss.


The real Devil detail on the drug I believe you're writing about
(Acomplia) is that it works by blocking some areas of your brains
"pleasure" connections. The drug has also been used in helping
smokers and alcoholics not enjoy their habits. But it can also
cause symptoms of depression -- go figure, huh? Let's see, small
weight loss ~verses~ difficulty experiencing pleasure and
possible depression. What Devil could persuade a person to
consider that choice?

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Old November 13th, 2004, 03:13 PM
Jenny
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Rudy,

Well, from the drug company perspective, this makes Accomplia the perfect
drug. Once they sell you a drug that blocks the pleasure receptors, they can
also addict you to an expensive antidepressant and mycoxiflopin. g

-- Jenny - Low Carbing for 5 years. Below goal for weight. Type 2 diabetes,
hba1c 5.7 .
Cut the carbs to respond to my email address!

Jenny's new site: What they Don't Tell You About Diabetes
http://www.geocities.com/lottadata4u/

Jenny's Low Carb Diet Facts & Figures
http://www.geocities.com/jenny_the_bean/

Looking for help controlling your blood sugar?
Visit http://www.alt-support-diabetes.org/...0Diagnosed.htm


"RRzVRR" wrote in message
ink.net...
Jenny wrote:

The new weight loss drug getting all the press caused some (but not all)
patients taking the highest dose to lose a whopping 5% of their body

weight.

So if you were 250 lbs, you'd lose 12 lbs--about what you'd lose in 2

weeks
of induction. And you'd have to keep taking the (expensive) drug and
suffering it's not inconsiderable side effects to keep it off.

That is a far cry from miracle weight loss.


The real Devil detail on the drug I believe you're writing about
(Acomplia) is that it works by blocking some areas of your brains
"pleasure" connections. The drug has also been used in helping
smokers and alcoholics not enjoy their habits. But it can also
cause symptoms of depression -- go figure, huh? Let's see, small
weight loss ~verses~ difficulty experiencing pleasure and
possible depression. What Devil could persuade a person to
consider that choice?

--
Rudy - Remove the Z from my address to respond.

"It is better to die on your feet than to live on your knees!"
-Emiliano Zapata

Check out the a.s.d.l-c FAQ at:
http://www.grossweb.com/asdlc/faq.htm




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Old November 13th, 2004, 05:06 PM
Priscilla Ballou
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In article . net,
RRzVRR wrote:

Jenny wrote:

The new weight loss drug getting all the press caused some (but not all)
patients taking the highest dose to lose a whopping 5% of their body weight.

So if you were 250 lbs, you'd lose 12 lbs--about what you'd lose in 2 weeks
of induction. And you'd have to keep taking the (expensive) drug and
suffering it's not inconsiderable side effects to keep it off.

That is a far cry from miracle weight loss.


The real Devil detail on the drug I believe you're writing about
(Acomplia) is that it works by blocking some areas of your brains
"pleasure" connections. The drug has also been used in helping
smokers and alcoholics not enjoy their habits. But it can also
cause symptoms of depression -- go figure, huh? Let's see, small
weight loss ~verses~ difficulty experiencing pleasure and
possible depression. What Devil could persuade a person to
consider that choice?


Precisely. I was listening to "Science Friday" on NPR yesterday, and
they were discussing it. Why oh why would someone be willing to reduce
all pleasure in order to lose 5% of their body weight? Enormous price
for a tiny size change. Our culture is sick.

Priscilla
 




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