My Progress

http://groups.google.com/group/sci.m...c33efe51560d7?



"The lot is cast into the lap, but its every decision is from the
LORD." (Proverbs 16:33)

Amen.

A Spirit-guided exegesis of Proverbs 16:33 ...

http://groups.google.com/group/sci.m...dcffcafb7e4e2?

Nothing happens by chance because everything happens only as GOD
allows it (Ecclesiastes 9:11):

http://groups.google.com/group/sci.m...27d1832960109?

Sign that GOD can easily unleash an H5N1 Pandemic at any time:

http://groups.google.com/group/sci.m...81567229974c0?

What we are teaching to prepare folks for the eventuality of a
catastrophic Pan-Flu:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jfmkax1wbRU

How to not be fearful:

Trust the truth, Who is Jesus !!!

http://T3WiJ.com

May dear neighbors, friends, and brethren have a blessedly wonderful
2009th year since the birth of our LORD Jesus Christ as our Messiah,
the Son of Man ...

.... by being hungrier:

http://groups.google.com/group/sci.m...1e617d10bd689?

Hunger is wonderful ! ! !

It's how we know the answer to the question "What does Jesus
want?" (WDJW):

http://WDJW.net

Yes, hunger is our knowledge of good versus evil that Adam and Eve
paid for with their and our immortal lives:

http://groups.google.com/group/sci.m...3db8576495806?

Hunger is the physical "hearts burning within us" feeling that unlocks
the 4 mysteries of the "Road to Emmaus" adventure described in Luke
24:

http://groups.google.com/group/sci.m...f56c2f6d0b154?

Moreover, being hungrier is the key to being Jesus' disciples:

http://groups.google.com/group/sci.m...0d7c4fe878897?

Being physically hungrier is how we will physically recognize Jesus
when He physically returns for us to meet Him physically in the air:

http://groups.google.com/group/sci.m...6609710ea9587?

"Blessed are you who hunger NOW...

.... for you will be satisfied." -- LORD Jesus Christ (Luke 6:21)

Amen.

Here is a Spirit-guided exegesis of Luke 6:21 given in hopes of
promoting much greater understanding:

http://groups.google.com/group/sci.m...aa8f8a4d41360?

Jesus is LORD, forever !!!

http://JiL4ever.net

Be hungrier, which is truly healthier for mind, body, and soul:

http://groups.google.com/group/sci.m...d4e30704307e7?

Marana tha

Prayerfully in the awesome name of our Messiah, LORD Jesus Christ,

Andrew
--
http://groups.google.com/group/sci.m...2aafa0aad16eb?

Only GOD can cut the "hunger is starvation" delusion from our hearts:
http://groups.google.com/group/sci.m...81ab7d7ce78de?

On Mon, 18 May 2009 04:12:15 -0500, Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD wrote
(in article
):

http://groups.google.com/group/sci.m...c33efe51560d7?



"The lot is cast into the lap, but its every decision is from the
LORD." (Proverbs 16:33)

Amen.

A Spirit-guided exegesis of Proverbs 16:33 ...

............

Good. Keep this up and continue to follow my advide

On Tue, 19 May 2009 21:58:06 -0400, Màck©® wrote:

are you awar that you are argueing with a mentally ill individual?
This mental illness led to his being fired in Ocala Florida. Look it
up, it is truely enlightening.

--
Måck©®
http://www.ratbags.com/dechunging/

"To announce that there must be no criticism of the
President, or that we are to stand by the President
right or wrong, is not only unpatriotic and servile,
but is morally treasonable to the American public."
...Theodore Roosevelt

(o ô)
--ooO-(_)-Ooo--------------------

"I don't know half of you
half as well as I should like;
and I like less than half of you
half as well as you deserve."
....Bilbo Baggins

DISCLAIMER If you find a posting or message from me
offensive, inappropriate, or disruptive, please ignore it.
If you don't know how to ignore a posting, complain to
me and I will be only too happy to demonstrate...

lol

That's "truely" enlightening, You Old Clunker

alt.support.diabetes,sci.med.cardiology reinstated how disingenuous of
you Mackie!
--
http://tinyurl.com/5gt7

On Tue, 19 May 2009 21:44:27 -0500, MU wrote
(in article ):

lol


As Chung wrote in response to a "lol":

"Written laughter is silent despair." -- Holy Spirit "

satan via a sockpuppet (corporeal demon) despairingly posted:

"Written laughter is silent despair." -- Holy Spirit

Amen.

And, so that words of GOD have rebuked you.

May we, who are Jesus' disciples (either Jew or gentile), continue to
be mindful of WDJW by rebuking you at each GOD-given opportunity as
GOD desires:

http://groups.google.com/group/sci.m...c33efe51560d7?



"The lot is cast into the lap, but its every decision is from the
LORD." (Proverbs 16:33)

Amen.

A Spirit-guided exegesis of Proverbs 16:33 ...

http://groups.google.com/group/sci.m...dcffcafb7e4e2?

Nothing happens by chance because everything happens only as GOD
allows it (Ecclesiastes 9:11):

http://groups.google.com/group/sci.m...27d1832960109?

Sign that GOD can easily unleash an H5N1 Pandemic at any time:

http://groups.google.com/group/sci.m...81567229974c0?

What we are teaching to prepare folks for the eventuality of a
catastrophic Pan-Flu:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jfmkax1wbRU

How to not be fearful:

Trust the truth, Who is Jesus !!!

http://T3WiJ.com

May dear neighbors, friends, and brethren have a blessedly wonderful
2009th year since the birth of our LORD Jesus Christ as our Messiah,
the Son of Man ...

.... by being hungrier:

http://groups.google.com/group/sci.m...1e617d10bd689?

Hunger is wonderful ! ! !

It's how we know the answer to the question "What does Jesus
want?" (WDJW):

http://WDJW.net

Yes, hunger is our knowledge of good versus evil that Adam and Eve
paid for with their and our immortal lives:

http://groups.google.com/group/sci.m...3db8576495806?

Hunger is the physical "hearts burning within us" feeling that unlocks
the 4 mysteries of the "Road to Emmaus" adventure described in Luke
24:

http://groups.google.com/group/sci.m...f56c2f6d0b154?

Moreover, being hungrier is the key to being Jesus' disciples:

http://groups.google.com/group/sci.m...0d7c4fe878897?

Being physically hungrier is how we will physically recognize Jesus
when He physically returns for us to meet Him physically in the air:

http://groups.google.com/group/sci.m...6609710ea9587?

"Blessed are you who hunger NOW...

.... for you will be satisfied." -- LORD Jesus Christ (Luke 6:21)

Amen.

Here is a Spirit-guided exegesis of Luke 6:21 given in hopes of
promoting much greater understanding:

http://groups.google.com/group/sci.m...aa8f8a4d41360?

Jesus is LORD, forever !!!

http://JiL4ever.net

Be hungrier, which is truly healthier for mind, body, and soul:

http://groups.google.com/group/sci.m...d4e30704307e7?

Marana tha

Prayerfully in the awesome name of our Messiah, LORD Jesus Christ,

Andrew
--
"... no one can say 'Jesus is LORD' except by the Holy Spirit." (1 Cor
12:3)
http://groups.google.com/group/sci.m...c93540862751c?

What does Jesus want (WDJW) ?
http://groups.google.com/group/sci.m...94899724b810d?

Only the truth can cure the "hunger is starvation" delusion:
http://groups.google.com/group/sci.m...81ab7d7ce78de?

On Wed, 20 May 2009 02:09:08 -0500, Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD wrote
(in article
):


"Written laughter is silent despair." -- Holy Spirit

Amen.

Glad you agree with my comments to MU about his "lol."

Harvey is the LORD.

On Sat, 16 May 2009 18:12:46 +0000 (UTC), Kaz Kylheku wrote:

On 2009-05-16, L.B. Listmann wrote:

"Kaz Kylheku" wrote in message
...
On 2009-05-12, L.B. Listmann wrote:
"Kaz Kylheku" wrote in message
...

Two pounds of the stuff that constitutes the average intake appears to
be
in
the ballpark for safe, effective dieting, for both men and women.


2 lbs of *WHAT STUFF?*

Obviously, food that has an average caloric density of between 1.5 and 2
kcal/g.

This is easy to achieve. If every component of every meal has a density
in this range, then the overall density cannot be outside of that
range. (Mean value theorem from calculus).

Do not put anything on that scale that has more than 2 kcal/g.

And how would anyone know what contains 2 kcal/g?

According to www.calorieking.com:

Randomly guessing some foods that are probably under 2 kcal/g:

100g of sirloin steak: 188 kcal. 1.88 kcal/g
Cooked long-grain brown rice: 1.11 kcal/g
Canned kidney beans: 0.82 kcal/g
Apples: 0.52 kcal/g
Potato, baked in skin: 0.90 kcal/g

It's not hard to come up with foods that have more than 2 kcal/g:

Brownie: 4.66 kcal/g
Muffin (Kirkland blueberry): 3.70 kcal/g
Cheddar cheese: 4.03 kcal/g
Bacon, fried: 5.41 kcal/g

You should have some intuition about what is loaded with calories, and you can
check that intuition online.

Many foods are labelled with nutritional facts too; you can easily check
caloric density when you're shopping.

What about those of us not familiar with the metric system or are poor in math?

I'm not sure where all your objections are headed. Let's see.

1. You want to go out to eat, because if you bring lunch will spoil.
2. You don't want to weigh anything.
3. You may be poor at math, so you don't want to calculate.

So, with regard to those requirements, what is your plan for limiting the
energy intake?

One way is to eat similar portion sizes everyday, under an invariant meal
structure, without snacking. Billions of people in the world are thin this way.
They eat their staple diets, in staple quantities, according to a general
plan dictated by their surrounding culture.

Sure, this is absolutely the best way to go, and what works for me.
I've never weighed anything nor counted calories for any significant
period of time.

Problem is, some fat folk don't have the accountability for this. They may be
otherwise perfectly rational grownups who handle complex responsibilities in
their jobs and personal lives. But when it comes to eating, they have
amnesia. It goes in the mouth, and five minutes later, it is forgotten.

Anything which has calories must be weighed, including liquids.
If you think you can put a 500g soda on the scale and still be
able to eat well in the 407g you have left, go ahead.

How many people carry around g scales?

I've addressed this already; you are repeating yourself. But let me add this:
how many people carry around an extra 80 pounds of flab, or more?

cookies, etc; I would tend to weigh that separately and keep it all under
50g,
which would cap its caloric contribution at 450 kcal.

How would you know the 50g contains 450 kcals?

I wouldn't. Consequently, that isn't what I wrote.

A hint. Listerineman and his hip buddy Atheno spend endless amounts of
time spinning circular, nonsensical arguments. If you think you will
ever get anywhere with these loons, you won't.

If you are arguing for the sake of archives, good on ya'.
--
http://tinyurl.com/5gt7

On Tue, 12 May 2009 20:20:20 +0000 (UTC), Kaz Kylheku wrote:

On 2009-05-12, L.B. Listmann wrote:
"Kaz Kylheku" wrote in message
...

Two pounds of the stuff that constitutes the average intake appears to be
in
the ballpark for safe, effective dieting, for both men and women.


2 lbs of *WHAT STUFF?*

Obviously, food that has an average caloric density of between 1.5 and 2
kcal/g.

2 pounds. No cal counts.

This is easy to achieve. If every component of every meal has a density
in this range, then the overall density cannot be outside of that
range. (Mean value theorem from calculus).

Do not put anything on that scale that has more than 2 kcal/g.

Anything which has calories must be weighed, including liquids.

Forget calories as a determinant of whether you weigh or not.

If you think you can put a 500g soda on the scale and still be
able to eat well in the 407g you have left, go ahead.

I would go with lean meats, vegetables, pastas, rice---that sort of thing. Only
a smattering of dense fat and carbs like butter, cheese, chocolate, crackers or
cookies, etc; I would tend to weigh that separately and keep it all under 50g,
which would cap its caloric contribution at 450 kcal.

I would put that tip-of-the-USDA-food-pyramid type of stuff on the scale first
and stop at 50 g.

For the remaining 857 g, I would add some healthy stuff that has a caloric
density of under 1.7 kcal/g.

Read about the 2PD, you're making this much more difficult than it needs
to be.

A couple comments about cals. It is a useless waste of time, in terms of
dieting, to count cals. How much did you actually digest and use for
energy or stored energy? Was that piece of meat 4 oz or 4.5 oz? Was it
more or less fatty for that cut? How big was that orange? Med?
Med-large? I have seen cal count books that differed among themselves by
as much as 30%. Which book are you going to trust?

Even if you know *all* of those things, including specific metabolizable
energy intake, and you never will, to get any foods accurately cal
counted you would have to have a bomb calorimeter and/or laboratory
setting.

Then we have the energy consumption issue. Swings widley aboutbody
temps. Are you a thinker? Up goes the mets. Are you an Athneo? Met
activities drop to near zero

It's a scientific nightmare, this whoe cal counting thing. It's a
useless "normal" activity for dieters. But we have been brainwashed to
believe in this ridiculous waste of time for decades now.

Eat 2PD or under, add an Ounce of Common Sense, over time, you lose
weight.

Period.

One caveat.

If you take on any diet with a head full of problems, which is the
_real_ reason you overconsume, you're doomed from the start. Either
solve your mental and emotional issues first or fuggit about it.

You have two choices. Professional human help or God. If you don't
believe in God, then you better have one damn good psychologist.




--
http://tinyurl.com/5gt7

On Fri, 1 May 2009 17:25:35 +0000 (UTC), Kaz Kylheku wrote:

On 2009-05-01, MU wrote:
On Thu, 30 Apr 2009 16:21:40 -0700, Cheri wrote:

"MU" wrote in message
...

Goodbye, little child.

*plonk*

The irony. You're publicly plonking someone, and calling them a little
child? One thing I can say for you, you never change. LOL

Cheri

Everyone changes. What hasn't changed is my lack of time and patience
for Usenet kiddies.

But, exactly as predicted, you followed up to me today. So your *plonk* was
only a meaningless overture, and your claim that you lack time is laughable.
As for patience, the need for that is obviated by your appetite.

*plonks* are any more permanent than you are.

On Wed, 20 May 2009 09:38:47 -0500, MU wrote
(in article ):

A hint. Listerineman and his hip buddy Atheno spend endless amounts of
time spinning circular, nonsensical arguments. If you think you will
ever get anywhere with these loons, you won't.

Hint Chung/MU just repeat the same unproven claims and will not get a
straight answer because they (he) have no straight answer.