Is corn the worst carb of all? To be avoided?

"DJ Delorie" wrote in message
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writes:
Im just trying to determine if corn is the WORST of all
carb sources.

No, processed wheat flour is.

So, first give up PROCESSED carbs. If you need to go further, reduce
natural-source carbs.

I apologize if this is a duplicate. I first sent this reply several days
ago, but it still hasn't shown up on my server...

I found this message to be very interesting because it pinpointed a problem
I have already noticed. I was diagnosed with diabetes (T2) in early June,
and I am now following the South Beach diet -- but, in addition, have used
*no*
white flour, potatoes, rice, pasta, or added sugar since I started SB. I do
eat fruit (mostly berries and a limited amount of small apples and bananas).

SB permits whole wheat flour, but I have discovered that my blood sugar
spikes if I have even a single piece of whole wheat bread. I was puzzled
because I am able to have old-fashioned oatmeal for breakfast without any
problem, and my BG readings have been very good since I started on this
diet. As a result, I have now also eliminated products made with whole
wheat flour (in fact, any flour at all). I am doing very well on this
regimen, but I was left wondering *why* I had that reaction. I think you
may have answered the question. Thanks!

MaryL

Ive been slowly learning abt low carb diets. Im not
exactly doing the Atkins diet tho. Just eating less
carbs. One thing Ive given up is the 3 a day Mt Dew
habit I had.

Having said all that Im slowly learning that modern day
car has been "hybridized" to be sweet and FULL of
carbs. True?

If yes.... could one go os far as to say that corn in
all form should be avoided as much as possible?

Bottom line.... a potato altho full of carbs may at
least have some other nutritional value to it? Whereas
eating a can or corn does nothing but give you TONS of
carbs?

Im trying to make a decision if corn is one item I
should quit eating all together... in ALL forms....
just as I gave up soda

Again...Im not really doing the Atkins diet....I still
eat fresh peaches, bananas, etc.

Im just trying to determine if corn is the WORST of all
carb sources.

writes:
Im just trying to determine if corn is the WORST of all
carb sources.

No, processed wheat flour is. Corn, at least whole unprocessed corn,
is only 16% carbs by weight. Most of the rest is water, although 3%
is protein and 1% is fats (half polyunsaturated, 1/3 mono, 1/6 sat).
Of the carbs, only 16% are sugars, which is where the fructose kicks
in. 14% of the carbs are fiber, the rest are (presumably) starch,
which is normally made from glucose (the "good" carb - it repletes
muscles first, whereas fructose repletes the liver first).

Processed corn is different - not only do they use different varieties
of corn, but they fiddle with the contents during processing. Corn
oil is obviously ok for LC, high fructose corn syrup isn't.

http://www.delorie.com/health/ns/?fid=11900

Potatoes have less protein and fiber, by weight, than corn, but also
have less sugars.

http://www.delorie.com/health/ns/?fid=11353

So, first give up PROCESSED carbs. If you need to go further, reduce
natural-source carbs.

writes:
Im just trying to determine if corn is the WORST of all
carb sources.

No, processed wheat flour is. Corn, at least whole unprocessed corn,
is only 16% carbs by weight. Most of the rest is water, although 3%
is protein and 1% is fats (half polyunsaturated, 1/3 mono, 1/6 sat).
Of the carbs, only 16% are sugars, which is where the fructose kicks
in. 14% of the carbs are fiber, the rest are (presumably) starch,
which is normally made from glucose (the "good" carb - it repletes
muscles first, whereas fructose repletes the liver first).

Processed corn is different - not only do they use different varieties
of corn, but they fiddle with the contents during processing. Corn
oil is obviously ok for LC, high fructose corn syrup isn't.

http://www.delorie.com/health/ns/?fid=11900

Potatoes have less protein and fiber, by weight, than corn, but also
have less sugars.

http://www.delorie.com/health/ns/?fid=11353

So, first give up PROCESSED carbs. If you need to go further, reduce
natural-source carbs.

The WORST no. White sugar, white flour are probably the worst and most
pervasive in the diet. Corn actually has more of certain mineral and
vitamin than potato(with skin) does(100gms vs 100gms). COrn also has
Lutein an antioxidant.

Check out http://www.nal.usda.gov/fnic/foodcomp/search/index.html''

Neither potato nor corn comes out as a big nutritional wallop.

I only had corn when I grew it myself this year. Ate about a dozen
cobs which was well worth the carbs. I also had it in one recipe. I
think if you keep widening the range of what you are willing to try
and ate missing out on certain items hits less. I love cron but I'm
not missing it terribly and if I want it I have it.

Even this weekend I had bread. I went to a fresh bakery and bought
pumpernickel rolls, some raisin cinnamon and irish soda. A big splurge
for a low carber over the past few days, but all of it a special
treat. If you are going to indulge in a carb, make it really good and
worth it. I figre why buy a loaf of prepackaged pumpernickel from the
supermarket when I can get fresh wamr rolls from a bakery and spend
the same carbs on the best breads.



wrote:

Ive been slowly learning abt low carb diets. Im not
exactly doing the Atkins diet tho. Just eating less
carbs. One thing Ive given up is the 3 a day Mt Dew
habit I had.

Having said all that Im slowly learning that modern day
car has been "hybridized" to be sweet and FULL of
carbs. True?

If yes.... could one go os far as to say that corn in
all form should be avoided as much as possible?

Bottom line.... a potato altho full of carbs may at
least have some other nutritional value to it? Whereas
eating a can or corn does nothing but give you TONS of
carbs?

Im trying to make a decision if corn is one item I
should quit eating all together... in ALL forms....
just as I gave up soda

Again...Im not really doing the Atkins diet....I still
eat fresh peaches, bananas, etc.

Im just trying to determine if corn is the WORST of all
carb sources.

DiGiTAL_ViNYL (no email)
350/272/Sep-263/200
Atkins since Jan 12, 2004
Maint. not counting (CCLL=50-60)

The WORST no. White sugar, white flour are probably the worst and most
pervasive in the diet. Corn actually has more of certain mineral and
vitamin than potato(with skin) does(100gms vs 100gms). COrn also has
Lutein an antioxidant.

Check out http://www.nal.usda.gov/fnic/foodcomp/search/index.html''

Neither potato nor corn comes out as a big nutritional wallop.

I only had corn when I grew it myself this year. Ate about a dozen
cobs which was well worth the carbs. I also had it in one recipe. I
think if you keep widening the range of what you are willing to try
and ate missing out on certain items hits less. I love cron but I'm
not missing it terribly and if I want it I have it.

Even this weekend I had bread. I went to a fresh bakery and bought
pumpernickel rolls, some raisin cinnamon and irish soda. A big splurge
for a low carber over the past few days, but all of it a special
treat. If you are going to indulge in a carb, make it really good and
worth it. I figre why buy a loaf of prepackaged pumpernickel from the
supermarket when I can get fresh wamr rolls from a bakery and spend
the same carbs on the best breads.



wrote:

Ive been slowly learning abt low carb diets. Im not
exactly doing the Atkins diet tho. Just eating less
carbs. One thing Ive given up is the 3 a day Mt Dew
habit I had.

Having said all that Im slowly learning that modern day
car has been "hybridized" to be sweet and FULL of
carbs. True?

If yes.... could one go os far as to say that corn in
all form should be avoided as much as possible?

Bottom line.... a potato altho full of carbs may at
least have some other nutritional value to it? Whereas
eating a can or corn does nothing but give you TONS of
carbs?

Im trying to make a decision if corn is one item I
should quit eating all together... in ALL forms....
just as I gave up soda

Again...Im not really doing the Atkins diet....I still
eat fresh peaches, bananas, etc.

Im just trying to determine if corn is the WORST of all
carb sources.

DiGiTAL_ViNYL (no email)
350/272/Sep-263/200
Atkins since Jan 12, 2004
Maint. not counting (CCLL=50-60)

So, first give up PROCESSED carbs.

OK....agreed on that. Basically that's anything man
made right?

Example...I have a small can of Chef Boy ArDee ravioli
in front of me and its man made (in factory) and as
such full of carbs. At least more so than say a can of
tuna, right?

If you need to go further, reduce
natural-source carbs.

OK

I guess that what Im asking. Of the natural source
carbs..which is worst? Corn is not worse, correct?

Wheat is worse?

So, first give up PROCESSED carbs.

OK....agreed on that. Basically that's anything man
made right?

Example...I have a small can of Chef Boy ArDee ravioli
in front of me and its man made (in factory) and as
such full of carbs. At least more so than say a can of
tuna, right?

If you need to go further, reduce
natural-source carbs.

OK

I guess that what Im asking. Of the natural source
carbs..which is worst? Corn is not worse, correct?

Wheat is worse?

I only had corn when I grew it myself this year. Ate about a dozen
cobs which was well worth the carbs.

OK

I thought say corn on the cob was nothing BUT carbs and
had no real nutritional value at all. Apparently it
does have 'some" nutritional value other than carbs

I only had corn when I grew it myself this year. Ate about a dozen
cobs which was well worth the carbs.

OK

I thought say corn on the cob was nothing BUT carbs and
had no real nutritional value at all. Apparently it
does have 'some" nutritional value other than carbs