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What is the healthiest BMI to maintain?



 
 
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Old June 27th, 2004, 09:01 PM
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Low carb suppresses your appetite to the degree that almost any
maintenance weight can be achieved. Ideal BMI seems to be a
controversial issue. For years A BMI of between 22 and 25 was
considered healthy however recently there have been studies that
suggest a lower BMI is better. One study claims risk of diabetes is
three times higher for people with BMI's between 22 and 25. Other
studies claim lower mortality figures for people qith BMI's all the
way down to 17! What is really healthiest?
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Old June 27th, 2004, 11:09 PM
Tom
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I'm 5'11" at 180lbs. My BMI is calculated at 25.1. To get down to 17, I
would have to weigh in at 125lbs. Somehow I can't envision that being a very
good weight for any 5'11" male. Even a BMI of 20, which is smack in the
middle for normal, would put me at a weight of 145. I can't see myself
losing another 35lbs to get there. I consider myself to be of average
muscularity. I read an article about the accuracy of the BMI tables. The
news clip said that Tom Cruise would be overweight with a BMI over 25.
Arnold Schwartzeneggar was categorized as obese.
Tom
210/180/180

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Low carb suppresses your appetite to the degree that almost any
maintenance weight can be achieved. Ideal BMI seems to be a
controversial issue. For years A BMI of between 22 and 25 was
considered healthy however recently there have been studies that
suggest a lower BMI is better. One study claims risk of diabetes is
three times higher for people with BMI's between 22 and 25. Other
studies claim lower mortality figures for people qith BMI's all the
way down to 17! What is really healthiest?



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Old June 28th, 2004, 12:27 AM
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On Sun, 27 Jun 2004 18:59:19 -0400, "marengo"
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wrote:
One study claims risk of diabetes is
| three times higher for people with BMI's between 22 and 25

High than what?


Some ideal BMI apparantly, here is some quoted text.

"The risk of diabetes was four times greater for subjects with BMIs of
22 or more. Even in just the 22 to 25 BMI range, which is supposedly
healthy, the risk of having diabetes was close to three times greater.
"We also calculated that if we could prevent gains in BMI beyond 22,
we could prevent an estimated 46 percent of diabetes cases and 34
percent of impaired glucose tolerance cases, which is just
astounding," Daniel said.
The UNC report is among the first of several studies showing that an
increased risk of diabetes exists in the 22 to 25 BMI range."

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Old June 28th, 2004, 12:37 AM
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| On Sun, 27 Jun 2004 18:59:19 -0400, "marengo"
| wrote:
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wrote:
|| One study claims risk of diabetes is
||| three times higher for people with BMI's between 22 and 25
||
|| High than what?
|
| Some ideal BMI apparantly, here is some quoted text.
|
| "The risk of diabetes was four times greater for subjects with BMIs of
| 22 or more. Even in just the 22 to 25 BMI range, which is supposedly
| healthy, the risk of having diabetes was close to three times greater.
| "We also calculated that if we could prevent gains in BMI beyond 22,
| we could prevent an estimated 46 percent of diabetes cases and 34
| percent of impaired glucose tolerance cases, which is just
| astounding," Daniel said.
| The UNC report is among the first of several studies showing that an
| increased risk of diabetes exists in the 22 to 25 BMI range."

I'm sure that this is probably true for anyone who follows the ADA's rather
foolish high-carb/low fat diet. It would make sense that one would have to
reach nearly the starvation level before the body would start using most of
the high amounts of consumed cabohydrates instead of storing them as fat.
While for those of us eating a high-fat/low carbohydrate diet, we do not get
the blood glucose and insulin spikes that leads to diabetes. As a Type II,
My BMI is well above 25, but my BG is normal wihout medications as long as I
stick to my low-carb eating. These "studies" are leaving out an entire
aspect of the nutritional equation. What we eat matters as much as what we
weigh when it comes to controlling blood sugar irregularities.

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Peter
270/215/180
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Old June 28th, 2004, 01:14 AM
Jennifer S.
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I think you are right on target .
Jennifer S.
206/175/135

I'm sure that this is probably true for anyone who follows the ADA's

rather
foolish high-carb/low fat diet.



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Old June 28th, 2004, 04:38 PM
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On Sun, 27 Jun 2004 18:59:19 -0400, "marengo"
wrote:

wrote:
One study claims risk of diabetes is
| three times higher for people with BMI's between 22 and 25

High than what?


Some ideal BMI apparantly, here is some quoted text.

"The risk of diabetes was four times greater for subjects with BMIs of
22 or more. Even in just the 22 to 25 BMI range, which is supposedly
healthy, the risk of having diabetes was close to three times greater.
"We also calculated that if we could prevent gains in BMI beyond 22,
we could prevent an estimated 46 percent of diabetes cases and 34
percent of impaired glucose tolerance cases, which is just
astounding," Daniel said.
The UNC report is among the first of several studies showing that an
increased risk of diabetes exists in the 22 to 25 BMI range."


Sounds like they are ASSUMING high BMI is the cause and not the effect
of diabetes. This is just one of the ways statistics can be
manipulated towards many untruths. If impaired GT cases and diabetes
cause obesity, then YES a higher BMI *WILL* coorelate with it. That
does not mean a lower BMI will cure diabetes or that being fat gives
someone diabetes. This snippet infers just that. Lower your BMI and
you cure/prevent the diabetes.

If people who end up eventually with diabetes had high BMI, they are
assuming they WEREN'T "diabetic" earlier. I think diabetes is more a
later symptom of a more basic problem. Obesity is linked with
diabetes, I just think the obesity can happen from it long before your
insulin control breaks down enough to be declared dibetic by today's
standards. Considering my personal success with low carb there is no
doubt in my mind that I would eventually have been declared a
diabetic. My body had too dramatic a response to lower carbs. There is
something very important, medically, in low carbing and clearly the
medical establishment is clueless.


DiGiTAL_ViNYL (no email)
350/279/Jun-273/200
Atkins since Jan 12, 2004
OWL-40 carbs/day (CCLL=50-60)
 




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