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Atkins Died Obese, Confirmed By Mayor Bloomberg; Raises Rightful Suspicions About His "Accidental" Death



 
 
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Old January 22nd, 2004, 06:18 AM
Dr. Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD
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Default Atkins Died Obese, Confirmed By Mayor Bloomberg; Raises RightfulSuspicions About His "Accidental" Death

JC Der Koenig wrote:

desperately libelous hissing snipped


FYI Note: I am aware that I am responding to a cross-posted message.
Because the author of the message to which I am responding did not
request that the header be trimmed, I have not trimmed it. If you are
upset about reading this message, a few suggestions:

(1) Yell at JC Der Koenig
(2) Report JC Der Koenig to his ISP ) for violating their TOS
with his libel and defamation.
(3) Killfile this thread.
(4) Killfile me.
(5) Read about free speech.

This discussion(s) is related to the 2 pound diet approach (2PD) which is
described completely at:

http://www.heartmdphd.com/wtloss.asp

Though Dr. Chung invented this approach, he did not initiate this Usenet
discussion(s). His participation in this discussion(s) has been voluntary and
has been conducted in the spirit of community service. His motivation has been
entirely altruistic and has arisen from his religious beliefs as a Christian.
Jesus freely gave of Himself to better the health of folks He touched:

http://www.heartmdphd.com/healer.asp

From the outset, it has been clear that there are those who are vehemently
opposed to the 2 pound diet approach. They have debated Dr. Chung on every
perceived weakness of the 2 pound diet approach and have lost the argument
soundly at every point:

http://www.heartmdphd.com/wtlossfaqs.asp

These debates are archived on Google in their entirety within this and other
discussion threads.

However, instead of conceding gracefully that they've lost the argument(s),
certain parties have redirected their hatred of the 2 pound diet approach toward
its author. The rationale appears to be "if you can not discredit the message
then try to discredit the messenger."

Initially, these folks accused the messenger of "trolling." A "troll" is
someone who posts under the cloak of anonymity messages with no redeeming
discussion value and with the sole purpose of starting "flame" wars.

These hateful folks lost credibility with this accusation when the following
observations were made:

(1) Dr. Chung has not been posting anonymously.
(2) The 2PD has been on-topic for the Usenet discussion groups hosting the
discussion(s).
(a) Those who are failing low-carbing can dovetail LC with the 2PD to
achieve near-ideal weight.
(b) Obese diabetics improve their blood glucose control when their weight
becomes near-ideal.
(c) For (b) see: http://tinyurl.com/levc
(3) Dr. Chung did not start the discussion(s).
(4) The 2 pound diet approach is 100% free (no profit motive).
(5) Dr. Chung's credentials are real and easily verified on-line (including
jpegs of the actual diplomas).

Full of hatred, frustration, and desperation, certain individuals have tried to
attack Dr. Chung's credentials knowing full well that they were attempting to
libel him. One notable example is Mr. Pastorio:

http://www.heartmdphd.com/libel.asp

When the full light was cast on Mr. Pastorio's libelous statements, the hateful
folks hiding in the darkness of anonymity only hissed louder in support of their
fallen hero.

Fortunately, those who have been following this discussion(s) either actively or
as lurkers can easily dismiss the hisses, for what they are, using the on-line
third-party resources at:

http://www.heartmdphd.com/profile.asp

where Dr. Chung's credentials can be verified many times over and libelous
claims that credentials were bought are easily and summarily debunked.

Moreover, readers need only make the following observations concerning the anon
posters who continue to hiss (ie JC Der Koenig and Mack):

(1) They are anonymous and thus they expect to have no credibility (or
accountability).
(2) They are by their Usenet history courtesy of Google, unsavory characters.
(3) They have not added anything to the discussion(s) except to deliver
one-sided insults.
(4) They complain about alleged cross-posts from Dr. Chung by cross-posting.
(5) They do not complain about cross-posts from folks who attack the 2PD or its
author.

and conclude that these anon posters deserve only their kill file.

It is my hope that the above brings new readers of this thread up to speed.

It will remain my pleasure to participate here on Usenet above the din of
hissing from the peanut gallery.


Humbly,

Andrew

--
Dr. Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD
Board-Certified Cardiologist
http://www.heartmdphd.com



  #12  
Old January 22nd, 2004, 06:25 AM
Steve
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Default Atkins Died Obese, Confirmed By Mayor Bloomberg; Raises Rightful Suspicions About His "Accidental" Death

On Thu, 22 Jan 2004 0:02:18 -0500, Dr. Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD wrote
(in message m):

JC Der Koenig wrote:

"Dr. Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD" wrote in message
...
Largest Mu_n wrote:

http://tinyurl.com/33svn

"Atkins is dead. I don't believe that bull**** that he dropped dead
slipping on a sidewalk, yeah right, joked Bloomberg.

Chowing down on huge plate of pasta, Bloomberg ripped into the man who
told dieters to stay away from carbohydrates.

Atkins died last April when he hit his head after slipping on a patch
of ice in front of his Manhattan office.

I actually went to his house out in South Hampton, said Bloomberg. It
was for a fundraiser about two years ago. It was for Pataki
fundraiser, and I went. The guy was fat -- a big guy but heavy and the
food was inedible. I took one appetizer and spit it out in the napkin.
It was just terrible."

Interesting interview. A word to the wise.


You're an idiot and a quack. There's no way you should be giving any type of
medical advice. That's why you don't have access to a hospital, and why you
were fired in Florida. This is also why you troll usenet for unsuspecting
"patients". You bought your credentials on the internet. Shame on you


Chungspeak snipped



FYI Note: I am aware that I am responding to a cross-posted message.
Because the author of the message to which I am responding did not
request that the header be trimmed, I have not trimmed it. If you are
upset about reading this message, a few suggestions:

(1) Yell at Chung
(2) Report Chung to his ISP
(3) Killfile this thread.
(4) Killfile me.
(5) Read about free speech.

This discussion(s) is related to the Two Foot Diet approach (2FD) which
I developed as a replacement for Dr. Chung's Amazing Logic Defying Two
Pound Diet to avoid having to carry a scale around.

In 2003, my wife and I watched an IMAX film about climbing the Bavarian
Alps and learned that despite their exhausting regimen, the climbers
consumed only 10 packages of wieners per week. That's less than 2 feet
of wieners per day! Since none of the climbers died from starvation, I
think it is safe to assume that 2 feet of food per day should be more
than adequate for us non-climbing folks.

So I started a little experiment with the agreeable obese friends in my
neighborhood. I gave them ordinary 6 inch rulers with instructions to
measure the length of everything substantial that passed into their
mouths. The only things exempted were water and sugar-free drinks. What
I learned was that my obese friends were consuming between 8 to 12 feet
of food per day! At the time, I was about 10 lbs. over my ideal body
weight so I decided to find out how much I was eating per day... 3
feet. I cut back to less than 2 feet and was at my proper weight in one
month.

My friends have responded similarly except they have taken longer
because of having to lose more weight. Admittedly, some of my obese
friends were especially slow to respond. They also happen to be the
ones with an unfortunate propensity for accidentally loosing their 6
inch rulers and taking weeks to buy replacements.

So here's the deal: measure all the food you eat, using it's longest
dimension, and keep the total length to less than two feet per day.
That's all there is. No scales, no counting calories or carbohydrates.
Heck, if you loose your ruler, you can even use the first joint of your
thumb to measure.

I am making this diet available as a public service and without
compensation.

If you have any questions, just see Dr. Chung's helpful FAQ and
substitute "Two Feet" for "Two Pounds" everywhere... what could be
simpler?

Though Steve invented this approach, he did not initiate this Usenet
discussion(s). His participation in this discussion(s) has been
voluntary and has been conducted in the spirit of community service.
His motivation has been entirely altruistic and has arisen from his
religious beliefs as a Christian. Jesus freely gave of Himself to
better the health of folks He touched:

http://www.heartmdphd.com/hypocrite.asp

From the outset, it has been clear that there are those who are
vehemently opposed to the 2 foot diet approach. They have debated
Steve on every perceived weakness of the 2 foot diet approach and have
lost the argument soundly at every point:

http://www.heartmdphd.com/wtlossfaqs.asp ... just substitute "Foot" for
"Pound" everywhere.

These debates are archived on Google in their entirety within this and
other discussion threads.

However, instead of conceding gracefully that they've lost the
argument(s), certain parties have redirected their hatred of the 2 foot
diet approach toward its author. The rationale appears to be "if you
can not discredit the message then try to discredit the messenger."

Initially, these folks accused the messenger of "trolling." A "troll"
is someone who posts under the cloak of anonymity messages with no
redeeming discussion value and with the sole purpose of starting
"flame" wars.

These hateful folks lost credibility with this accusation when the
following observations were made:

(1) Steve has not been posting anonymously.

(2) The 2FD has been on-topic for the Usenet discussion groups hosting
the discussion(s).

(a) Those who are failing low-carbing can dovetail LC with the 2FD
to achieve near-ideal weight.

(b) Obese diabetics improve their blood glucose control when their
weight becomes near-ideal.

(c) For (b) see: http://tinyurl.com/moreChungbull****

(3) Steve did not start the discussion(s).

(4) The 2 foot diet approach is 100% free (no profit motive).

Full of hatred, frustration, and desperation, certain individuals have
tried to attack Steve's credentials knowing full well that they were
attempting to libel him. One notable example is Dr. Chung who is
jealous that Steve has improved on his diet.

When the full light was cast on Dr. Chung's libelous statements, the
hateful folks hiding in the darkness of anonymity, most notably Mu,
only hissed louder in support of their fallen hero.

Fortunately, those who have been following this discussion(s) either
actively or as lurkers can easily dismiss the hisses, for what they
are, using the on-line third-party resources at:

http://www.heartmdphd.com/sign_up_to_be_a_patient.asp

Moreover, readers need only make the following observations concerning
the anon posters who continue to hiss, most notably Mu:

(1) They are anonymous and thus expect to have no credibility (or
accountability).

(2) They are by their Usenet history courtesy of Google, unsavory
characters.

(3) They have not added anything to the discussion(s) except to deliver
one-sided insults.

(4) They complain about alleged cross-posts from Steve by cross-
posting.

(5) They do not complain about cross-posts from folks who attack the
2FD or its author.

and conclude that these anon posters deserve only their kill file.
Unfortunately, they keep Mu_Tating so that it is impossible to killfile
them.

It is my hope that the above brings new readers of this thread up to
speed.

It will remain my pleasure to participate here on Usenet above the din
of hissing from the peanut gallery.

Sincerely,

God's Other Humble Servant

Steve


  #13  
Old January 22nd, 2004, 07:44 AM
Tom
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Default Atkins Died Obese, Confirmed By Mayor Bloomberg; Raises Rightful Suspicions About His "Accidental" Death

You're an idiot and a quack. There's no way you should be giving any type of
medical advice. That's why you don't have access to a hospital, and why you
were fired in Florida. This is also why you troll usenet for unsuspecting
"patients". You bought your credentials on the internet. Shame on you.




I heard Chung OD'd a couple patients...one went into a coma and the
other one died! that's why they took away his licsence!
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Old January 22nd, 2004, 11:44 AM
Myway
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Default Atkins Died Obese, Confirmed By Mayor Bloomberg; Raises RightfulSuspicions About His "Accidental" Death

JC Der Koenig wrote:

"Dr. Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD" wrote in message
...
Largest Mu_n wrote:

http://tinyurl.com/33svn

"Atkins is dead. I don't believe that bull**** that he dropped dead
slipping on a sidewalk, yeah right, joked Bloomberg.

Chowing down on huge plate of pasta, Bloomberg ripped into the man who
told dieters to stay away from carbohydrates.

Atkins died last April when he hit his head after slipping on a patch
of ice in front of his Manhattan office.

I actually went to his house out in South Hampton, said Bloomberg. It
was for a fundraiser about two years ago. It was for Pataki
fundraiser, and I went. The guy was fat -- a big guy but heavy and the
food was inedible. I took one appetizer and spit it out in the napkin.
It was just terrible."


Interesting interview. A word to the wise.



You're an idiot and a quack. There's no way you should be giving any type of
medical advice. That's why you don't have access to a hospital, and why you
were fired in Florida. This is also why you troll usenet for unsuspecting
"patients". You bought your credentials on the internet. Shame on you.


Amazing..Chung and Mu from the same area..hmmmmmmmm

Myway
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Old January 22nd, 2004, 01:13 PM
JC Der Koenig
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Default Atkins Died Obese, Confirmed By Mayor Bloomberg; Raises Rightful Suspicions About His "Accidental" Death

"Tom" wrote in message
m...
You're an idiot and a quack. There's no way you should be giving any

type of
medical advice. That's why you don't have access to a hospital, and why

you
were fired in Florida. This is also why you troll usenet for

unsuspecting
"patients". You bought your credentials on the internet. Shame on you.




I heard Chung OD'd a couple patients...one went into a coma and the
other one died! that's why they took away his licsence!


Absolutely!


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Old January 22nd, 2004, 01:47 PM
n k bakker
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Default Atkins Died Obese, Confirmed By Mayor Bloomberg; Raises Rightful Suspicions About His "Accidental" Death

WOW!! diet by length?

Put me down for the 8 or 9 inch diet could be heaven!

nancyy
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Old January 22nd, 2004, 04:28 PM
tcomeau
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Default Atkins Died Obese, Confirmed By Mayor Bloomberg; Raises Rightful Suspicions About His "Accidental" Death

Largest Mu_n wrote in message . ..
http://tinyurl.com/33svn

"Atkins is dead. I don't believe that bull**** that he dropped dead
slipping on a sidewalk, yeah right, joked Bloomberg.

Chowing down on huge plate of pasta, Bloomberg ripped into the man who
told dieters to stay away from carbohydrates.

Atkins died last April when he hit his head after slipping on a patch
of ice in front of his Manhattan office.

I actually went to his house out in South Hampton, said Bloomberg. It
was for a fundraiser about two years ago. It was for Pataki
fundraiser, and I went. The guy was fat -- a big guy but heavy and the
food was inedible. I took one appetizer and spit it out in the napkin.
It was just terrible."


Why would Bloomberg attack Atkins? Here is some insight.

http://ourworld.compuserve.com/homep...n/Bloomber.htm

"Media magnate and New York City Mayor Michael Bloomberg owns Johns
Hopkins University School of Public Health
Bloomberg is "the largest donor in the 125-year history of the Johns
Hopkins Institutions, with gifts including $100 million to the Johns
Hopkins Initiative." (Hopkins Names Public Health School for Michael
Bloomberg. Headlines@Hopkins news release, April 20, 2001.) Its School
of Public Health, which has been renamed for him, is the lair of those
corrupt epidemiologists, Leon Gordis and Jonathan Samet."

I haven't found anything yet on Gordis and Samet.

This is the new name of the school: Johns Hopkins Bloomberg School of
Public Health

Some of the people at this University:

Lawrence J. Cheskin, M.D., Div. of Gastroenterology, Dept. of
Medicine, Johns Hopkins School of Medicine. Consultant to Procter &
Gamble on olestra (1997). Spoke on behalf of Procter and Gamble at FDA
advisory committee meeting on olestra (6-16-98). Co- author of an
olestra postmarketing surveillance study funded by P&G. (J. Am. Diet.
Asso. 1998;98:1290-6). Co-author of P&G study on olestra and
carotenoids. (J. Nutr. 1999;129:855-64) Co-author of P&G study on
early adopters of olestra. (J. Am. Diet. Asso. 2000;100:198-204)
Co-author of study on olestra and health/nutrition that was funded by
P&G. (Arch. Intern. Med. 2000;160:2600-4) Co-author of a study on
olestra's effects and carotenoids and vitamins funded by P&G. (J.
Nutr. 2000;130:1711-18)

Lynn Goldman, Visiting Scholar at Johns Hopkins University; former
assistant administrator of U.S. EPA, office of prevention, pesticides,
and toxic substances. Member of the Monsanto Biotechnology Advisory
Council( Source: Monsanto press release
http://biz.yahoo.com/prnews/010531/cgth023.html accessed
6/5/01)Member, Dow Environmental Advisory Council. (Dow, Public
Report, 1989, http://www.dow.com/environment/99rep/8.html; accessed
July 28, 2000).


Benjamin Caballero, M.D., Ph.D., Center for Human Nutrition, The Johns
Hopkins School of Public Health, Baltimore, MD

This fellow is a member of the Panel on Dietary Reference Intakes for
Macronutrients:

***********
Report Offers New Eating and Physical Activity Targets
To Reduce Chronic Disease Risk

WASHINGTON -- To meet the body's daily energy and nutritional needs
while minimizing risk for chronic disease, adults should get 45
percent to 65 percent of their calories from carbohydrates, 20 percent
to 35 percent from fat, and 10 percent to 35 percent from protein,
says the newest report on recommendations for healthy eating from the
National Academies' Institute of Medicine.
************

http://www4.nationalacademies.org/ne...3?OpenDocument

Panel on Dietary Reference Intakes for Macronutrients

Benjamin Caballero, M.D., Ph.D.
Professor and Director, Center for Human Nutrition
Bloomberg School of Public Health
Johns Hopkins University
Baltimore

Some other members of this Panel:

Joanne Lupton, Associate professor, human nutrition, Texas A&M
University. In-depth review expert for FDA Food Advisory Committee's
1995 review of olestra. VP, Ruder and Finn, NY (1970-74);
communications consultant to corporations (1974-80); ILSI (1992-94);
Health Valley Foods; Miller Brewing Co. Co-authored an "Expert Panel
Report" on olestra (August 1999) for Procter & Gamble. (P&G petition
to FDA, 12/1/99) (Resumé)

Jean-Pierre Flatt, Ph.D., Professor Emeritus, Department of
Biochemistry and Molecular Biology, University of Massachusetts
Medical Center, Amherst, MA. "Serves on the Nestlé Foundation for the
Study of Nutritional Problems in the World and has consulted for
Nestec, Inc., Nestlé Research Center."
(http://www4.nas.edu/webcr.nsf/Commit...?OpenDocument;
accessed 1/6/03)

Susan K. Fried, Ph.D., Department of Nutritional Sciences, Rutgers
University, New Brunswick, NJ. "Has on occasion consulted for a
variety of food and pharmaceutical manufacturers."
(http://www4.nas.edu/webcr.nsf/Commit...?OpenDocument;
accessed 1/6/03)

Scott M. Grundy, M.D., Ph.D.,, Department of Internal Medicine,
University of Texas Southwestern Medical Center, Dallas. Veterans
Administration Medical Center, U.C. San Diego (1986); U. Of Texas
Health Science Center, Dallas, TX (1986). Research grant from Procter
& Gamble on olestra (1986). (Co-authors included Jack Anastasia
(Procter & Gamble), Antero Kesaniemi, Jeffrey Abrams) Member,
Institute of Medicine's Food and Nutrition Board (1997). (4/9/99
Business Wire) Am. J. Clin. Nutr. study on health benefits of beer
(Bill Barrett, Chairman of Willow Distributors, Inc., the Dallas
Coors, specialty, and imported beer distributor: "With ... the recent
reports that reveal drinking 1 to 2 beers a day, can lower your chance
of coronary heart disease by 30-40%, I decided to partially fund this
review." According to a 1999 law suit against USDA/HHS filed by
Physicians Committee for Responsible Medicine, served from
1973-present on the American Egg Board grant review committee. (PCRM
web site (http://www.pcrm.org, October 12, 2000) and Civ. No.:
99-3107-JR, U.S. District Court for D.C. (information therein obtained
from USDA))Study to develop a method for determining the masses of
various abdominal adipose tissue compartments supported by Merck and
Bristol- Myers-Squibb. (Am. J. Clin. Nutr. 1997;65:403-8) Research on
oxidizability of low- density lipoprotein in patients with diabetes
mellitus partially supported by the Henkel Corporation. (Am. J. Clin.
Nutr. 1996;63:753-9)

Sheila Innis, University of British Columbia; member of FASEB
committee under contract to FDA to report on infant formula; has "done
considerable work with Ross [Laboratories]." (Wash Post, 6/1/99, p.1)

David J.A. Jenkins, M.D., Ph.D., Department of Nutritional Sciences,
University of Toronto. Evaluated potential health benefits of oil
seeds, such as soy and flaxseed, partially funded by the
University-Industry Partnership Program of the Natural Sciences and
Engineering Research Council of Canada and Omega Nutrition Canada.
(Am. J. Clin. Nutr. 1999;69:395-402)

Rachel Johnson, Department of Nutrition and Food Science, College of
Agriculture and Life Sciences, University of Vermont, Burlington, VT.
Member of USDA/HHS 1999 Dietary Guidelines Review Committee. According
to a 1999 law suit against USDA/HHS filed by Physicians Committee for
Responsible Medicine, she received a $42,000 research grant from Dairy
Management, Inc. and in 1988 and 1990 she received fellowships from
Kraft General Foods. (PCRM web site (http://www.pcrm.org, October 12,
2000) and law suit against USDA, Civ. No.: 99-3107-JR, U.S. District
Court for D.C. (information therein obtained from USDA)) Research on
the nutritional consequences of flavored-milk consumption by
school-aged children and adolescents in the U.S. was sponsored by the
National Dairy Council, the nutrition marketing arm of the Dairy
Management, Inc. (J. Am. Diet. Assoc. 2002;102:853)

Penny Kris-Etherton, Ph.D., R.D., Department of Nutrition,
Pennsylvania State University. Consultant to Campbell Soup on
Intelligent Cuisine line (10/96, CSPI conversation with Campbell).
Studies on chocolates (stearic acid) and cholesterol levels were
supported by the American Cocoa Research Institute (an arm of the
Chocolate Manufacturers Association). (Am. J. Clin. Nutr.
1994;60(Suppl):1029S-36S;1037S-42S) Using PRNewswire (6/23/99), IFIC,
the industry-sponsored International Food Information Council,
suggested that journalists interested in trans fat call Kris-
Etherton. On Nutrition Advisory Panel of the American Egg Board
(1998). (http://web.archive.org/web/199911032...s/science.html,
1999) Study on monounsaturated fats was supported by the Peanut
Institute. (Am. J. Clin. Nutr. 1999;70:1009-15) Research on lipid and
lipoprotein responses to different diets partially supported by Abbott
Laboratories. (Am. J. Clin. Nutr. 2000;70:839-46) Research on the
effects of folate and vitamins B-12 and B-6 on serum total
homocysteine (tHcy) supported by Campbell Soup Company. (Am. J. Clin.
Nutr. 2000;70:881-7) Study that compared meal plans and self-selected
diet in relation to cardiovascular risk reduction supported by
Campbell Soup Company. (Am. J. Clin. Nutr. 1997;66:373-85) Study on
the benefits of a prepared diet in relation to cardiovascular disease
supported by Campbell Soup Company. (Am. J. Clin. Nutr.
1996;64:935-43) "Serves as a member of advisory committees to a number
of food and pharmaceutical groups and has research support from the
food industry." (http://www4.nas.edu/webcr.nsf/Commit...?OpenDocument;
accessed 1/6/03)

Paul B. Pencharz, Ph.D., Departments of Pediatrics and Surgery,
University of Toronto. Research on the prevalence of vitamin K
deficiency in cystic fibrosis partially supported by Janssen
Pharmaceutica. (Am. J. Clin. Nutr.1999;70:378-82)

F. Xavier Pi-Sunyer, , M.D., St. Luke's-Roosevelt Hospital Center,
Columbia University. Advisory boards of American Home Products'
Wyeth-Ayerst labs and Knoll Pharmaceuticals; consultant to Lilly
Pharmaceuticals, Genentech, Hoffman-LaRoche, Knoll, Weight-Watchers
International, and Neurogen; on Knoll Pharmaceutical's Weight Risk
Investigation Study Council (provides research grants). (Newark
Star-Ledger, 2/17/97) Accepted grants or fees from Warner-Lambert on
Rezulin, a diabetes drug. (Los Angeles Times, p. A22,
10/29/99)Research on the effects of folate and vitamins B-12 and B-6
on serum total homocysteine (tHcy) supported by Campbell Soup Company.
(Am. J. Clin. Nutr. 2000;70:881-7) Study that compared meal plans and
self-selected diet in relation to cardiovascular risk reduction
supported by Campbell Soup Company. (Am. J. Clin. Nutr.
1997;66:373-85) Study on the benefits of a prepared diet in relation
to cardiovascular disease supported by Campbell Soup Company. (Am. J.
Clin. Nutr. 1996;64:935-43)

Peter J. Reeds, Ph.D., Department of Pediatrics, Baylor College of
Medicine, Houston, TX. "Has consulted for food-related companies and
dietary product manufacturers."
(http://www4.nas.edu/webcr.nsf/Commit...?OpenDocument;
accessed 1/7/03)

Susan B. Roberts, Ph.D., Energy Metabolism Lab, Jean Mayer U.S.D.A.
Human Nutrition Research Center on Aging at Tufts University, Boston,
MA. Research on cereal fiber and diet supported in part by the Quaker
Oats Company. (J. Amer. Coll. Nutr. 2001;1:50-7)Research exploring
potential parallels between nutritionally stunted children and obesity
partially funded by the Nestlé Foundation. (Am. J. Clin. Nutr.
2000;72:702-7)


Johns Hopkins researchers have contributed to establishing the idea
that 60% of our diet should be carbs. They ought to be irked by the
success of Atkins diet and now they are expressing their
dissatifaction at the highest level, the owner of Johns Hopkins is
doing the criticising. I wonder if it is in his capacity as owner or
Johns Hopkins or in his capacity as Mayor of New York?

TC
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Old January 22nd, 2004, 04:49 PM
Steve
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Default Atkins Died Obese, Confirmed By Mayor Bloomberg; Raises Rightful Suspicions About His "Accidental" Death

On Thu, 22 Jan 2004 7:47:10 -0500, n k bakker wrote
(in message ):

WOW!! diet by length?

Put me down for the 8 or 9 inch diet could be heaven!

nancyy


I'll have to add that as one of my "Testesmonials" :-)

--
Steve

Weeding the Lord's Vineyards Since 2003

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Old January 22nd, 2004, 05:42 PM
Largest Mu_n
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On Thu, 22 Jan 2004 05:44:13 -0500, Myway wrote:

Amazing..Chung and Mu from the same area..hmmmmmmmm

Myway


Yes, we are and I have $10,000 in escrow that you can have if you come
to Atlanta and see we are the same person.

Of course, you have to out up $10,000 too.

When will you be arriving?

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Old January 22nd, 2004, 05:43 PM
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Default Atkins Died Obese, Confirmed By Mayor Bloomberg; Raises Rightful Suspicions About His "Accidental" Death

On 21 Jan 2004 22:44:38 -0800, (Tom)
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I heard Chung OD'd a couple patients...one went into a coma and the
other one died! that's why they took away his licsence!


He can spell.

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