Low carb diets

Lyle McDonald wrote:

roger wrote:

On Tue, 30 Dec 2003 00:32:17 -0600, Lyle McDonald
wrote:

Tim Josling wrote:

roger wrote:
...
I think it is pretty clear that the overwhelming majority of people
fare better on a diet that is balanced between carbs, protein and fat
with most of the carbs coming from vegetables, fruits and unprocessed
grains (brown rice, whole wheat bread/pasta, etc) and avoiding the
processed carbs.

Pasta is a highly processed food, as is bread. Wholemeal bread is almost
as glycemic as white bread.

don't try to introduce facts into roger the retard's nonsense.

On Thu, 18 Dec 2003 00:06:59 GMT, wrote:

I must be doing something right. Lyle did not call me a butt****ing
moron, moron, retard, ****tard, or whining bitch. Or maybe Lyle went
back on his meds.

Looks like Lyle is off his meds again. Oh well.

Ah, the sign of a true mfw dip****.
I haven't used meds for 2 years, ****wit.

Only retards and dip****s keep bringing it up and think it is meaningful.

Lyle does not agree that eating whole wheat bread/pasta is better than
eating white bread/ regular pasta??

Where did I say any such thing?

C'mon, show me where I said it. I was agreeing that
a. pasta is a highly processed food, which it is
b. so are breads

I'd have to check the GI for wholemeal vs. white bread but it's not as
different as yo'ud think.

Yer turn, dumbass.

Sorry, 3 more things.

a. The only med I was ever one was Celexa. An SSRI. For seasonal depression.

b. Your ad hominems are almost as pathetic as John Williams'. I still
think his 'Thanks for showing us a manic depressive episode' in the
bromocriptine wars last year has you beat, though.

c. If you check Rick Mendosa's excellent GI list, you'll see that the
difference in GI between white and wheat bread is about 10 points (lower
for wheat, natch). GI only drops significantly if you are talking about
the coarse types of wholemeal and rye breads and that's not what most
people are eating. Obviously, if you're going to eat bread, wholewheat
is better. But expecting it to have monstrously different effects on
blood glucose regulation (esp. for a diabetic or prediabetic) is showing
ignorance. IN this case, roger, yours.

Lyle

C'mon, show me where I said it. I was agreeing that
a. pasta is a highly processed food, which it is

try homemade then...isn't pasta basically flour and water ?

b. so are breads

Again, flour water and yeast ?

"roger" wrote:

I am not sure why I originally put JW in my kill file. It is hard to
keep all the net loons straight. I apologize if I am wrong but I think
he is the guy who falsely accused me of posting under some other name.

I correctly accused you of using a Giganews account to troll MFW
under many, many names -- a new one every day. When you
quit using that account, you started appearing regularly again ...
as "roger."

I think Keith Hobnob was the guy who originally falsely accused me of
this. Then Keith apologized after another poster proved by doing a
traceroute that I could not be the other poster.

Keith owed you no apology. A traceroute to the location of
the Giganews anonymized server tells one nothing, and Giganews
does not reveal the originating IP address of its users.

On the other hand, I was the first one who tagged your location
as "roger" to the Honolulu area, a fact which you admitted was
correct ... and your IP address still returns to Honolulu.

Don't hide behind Keith's mistaken apology, roger. You're
still a liar and a know-nothing.

"Lyle McDonald" wrote in message
...
Lyle McDonald wrote:

roger wrote:

On Tue, 30 Dec 2003 00:32:17 -0600, Lyle McDonald
wrote:

Tim Josling wrote:

roger wrote:
...
I think it is pretty clear that the overwhelming majority of
people
fare better on a diet that is balanced between carbs, protein and
fat
with most of the carbs coming from vegetables, fruits and
unprocessed
grains (brown rice, whole wheat bread/pasta, etc) and avoiding
the
processed carbs.

Pasta is a highly processed food, as is bread. Wholemeal bread is
almost
as glycemic as white bread.

don't try to introduce facts into roger the retard's nonsense.

On Thu, 18 Dec 2003 00:06:59 GMT, wrote:

I must be doing something right. Lyle did not call me a butt****ing
moron, moron, retard, ****tard, or whining bitch. Or maybe Lyle went
back on his meds.

Looks like Lyle is off his meds again. Oh well.

Ah, the sign of a true mfw dip****.
I haven't used meds for 2 years, ****wit.

Only retards and dip****s keep bringing it up and think it is
meaningful.

Lyle does not agree that eating whole wheat bread/pasta is better than
eating white bread/ regular pasta??

Where did I say any such thing?

C'mon, show me where I said it. I was agreeing that
a. pasta is a highly processed food, which it is
b. so are breads

I'd have to check the GI for wholemeal vs. white bread but it's not as
different as yo'ud think.

Yer turn, dumbass.

Sorry, 3 more things.

a. The only med I was ever one was Celexa. An SSRI. For seasonal
depression.

b. Your ad hominems are almost as pathetic as John Williams'. I still
think his 'Thanks for showing us a manic depressive episode' in the
bromocriptine wars last year has you beat, though.

c. If you check Rick Mendosa's excellent GI list, you'll see that the
difference in GI between white and wheat bread is about 10 points (lower
for wheat, natch). GI only drops significantly if you are talking about
the coarse types of wholemeal and rye breads and that's not what most
people are eating. Obviously, if you're going to eat bread, wholewheat
is better. But expecting it to have monstrously different effects on
blood glucose regulation (esp. for a diabetic or prediabetic) is showing
ignorance. IN this case, roger, yours.

Lyle

I have the International Table of glycemic index and glycemic load:2002 in
front of me, (acjn)

bread can have a GI between 27-95 (with glucose as the comparison)

depends on what they are made from

Barley breads/rye breads are awsome.


--
Aaron

"gman99" wrote in message
...
C'mon, show me where I said it. I was agreeing that
a. pasta is a highly processed food, which it is

try homemade then...isn't pasta basically flour and water ?

b. so are breads

Again, flour water and yeast ?

tell me, what is the thing that happens between the grain and the flour?

is it called, proccessing?

On 12/30/2003 10:04 PM, Aaron wrote:
"gman99" wrote in message
...

C'mon, show me where I said it. I was agreeing that
a. pasta is a highly processed food, which it is

try homemade then...isn't pasta basically flour and water ?


b. so are breads

Again, flour water and yeast ?


tell me, what is the thing that happens between the grain and the flour?

is it called, proccessing?

It's called grinding actually -- as in stone ground.

--
jmk in NC

On Wed, 31 Dec 2003 07:58:26 -0500, jmk
wrote:



On 12/30/2003 10:04 PM, Aaron wrote:
"gman99" wrote in message
...

C'mon, show me where I said it. I was agreeing that
a. pasta is a highly processed food, which it is

try homemade then...isn't pasta basically flour and water ?


b. so are breads

Again, flour water and yeast ?


tell me, what is the thing that happens between the grain and the flour?

is it called, proccessing?

It's called grinding actually -- as in stone ground.

yeeesss...and what sort of action is grinding? Processing, maybe?

"Aaron" hunt354 at hotmail dot com wrote:
"gman99" wrote in message
...
C'mon, show me where I said it. I was agreeing that
a. pasta is a highly processed food, which it is

try homemade then...isn't pasta basically flour and water ?

b. so are breads

Again, flour water and yeast ?

tell me, what is the thing that happens between the grain and the flour?

is it called, proccessing?

In that sense you could say your water is processed if you are in any type
of municipality...flour is nothing more than crushed grain...

Chupacabra wrote:
On Wed, 31 Dec 2003 07:58:26 -0500, jmk
wrote:



On 12/30/2003 10:04 PM, Aaron wrote:
"gman99" wrote in message
...

C'mon, show me where I said it. I was agreeing that
a. pasta is a highly processed food, which it is

try homemade then...isn't pasta basically flour and water ?


b. so are breads

Again, flour water and yeast ?


tell me, what is the thing that happens between the grain and the
flour?

is it called, proccessing?

It's called grinding actually -- as in stone ground.

yeeesss...and what sort of action is grinding? Processing, maybe?

We're still talking two natural ingredients...

On 31 Dec 2003 13:13:45 GMT, (gman99) wrote:

Chupacabra wrote:
On Wed, 31 Dec 2003 07:58:26 -0500, jmk
wrote:



On 12/30/2003 10:04 PM, Aaron wrote:
"gman99" wrote in message
...

C'mon, show me where I said it. I was agreeing that
a. pasta is a highly processed food, which it is

try homemade then...isn't pasta basically flour and water ?


b. so are breads

Again, flour water and yeast ?


tell me, what is the thing that happens between the grain and the
flour?

is it called, proccessing?

It's called grinding actually -- as in stone ground.

yeeesss...and what sort of action is grinding? Processing, maybe?

We're still talking two natural ingredients...

Your point being?