NYNY - Fred - Dec 10th

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On Sun, 04 Jan 2004 18:34:32 -0800, Fred wrote:



On Sat, 03 Jan 2004 03:08:25 -0600, Joyce wrote:

On Sun, 28 Dec 2003 20:16:44 -0800, Fred wrote:



On Sun, 28 Dec 2003 20:12:15 -0600, Joyce wrote:

Oh yeah, and it's always wonderful to be charged by the minute while they have you
climbing underneath the desk trying to change connections that you have already
changed - but they insist you have to do it again or they can't go on to the next
possible step. Definitely reading straight from a book.

Glad you had a wonderful ski trip! Once again, I got no formal exercise in today
... other than frequent trips up and down the basement stairs doing laundry.

And today was another chilly bike ride - to REI for some small items
for skiing and a CHUM to hold my bike glasses around my neck while
biking.

I got a lot of exercise in but I don't seem to see any of it on the
scale - which is scary since it may mean I am eating too much.

Could also just be that body taking a short break again, and readjusting. You
know I've fallen off the exercise track, and I fully expect to not see any changes
on the scale as I start back up. Past history has done this to me, and I also
recall reading the same thing. Exercise will build muscle and cause water
retention - takes time for actual results to show on a scale, yet results do show
other places such as clothing fitting much better or looser.

Maybe. I think I will either see results or not over this next week.

LOL! I love that statement. I see my wishy-washyness appearing in many of the
group lately. G But it has been my mantra lately, in many things ... either it
will or it won't.

Three more days of pretty intense skiing in very frigid temps (today
it was 10F) but my friend has done a good job of providing foods that
so tempted me. She made lots of cookies and I sampled them. She also
found Stilton with apricots - very interesting. Water retention to
help VERY SORE muscles is a definite possibility. Boy, oh, boy.
Thighs, neck and arms.

Yikes. I'd rather hole up inside, under a blanket. I am not a cold weather
person. I love the outdoors ... when it is warm! Heck, I can't get warm in my
house, let alone even think about trying to do it in 10F temps.

I've seen your weigh in results posted and highly doubt that you are eating too
much. g

I am not controlling it as well as I should even if one could say I'm
not eating too much. Just eating and eating.

Hmmmm, seems that is where I have been. Overall, I don't think I have eaten a lot
.... quantity wise. But I feel like I have been continuousy *picking*.

Joyce

On Mon, 05 Jan 2004 02:52:33 -0600, Joyce wrote:

On Sun, 04 Jan 2004 18:34:32 -0800, Fred wrote:



On Sat, 03 Jan 2004 03:08:25 -0600, Joyce wrote:

On Sun, 28 Dec 2003 20:16:44 -0800, Fred wrote:



On Sun, 28 Dec 2003 20:12:15 -0600, Joyce wrote:

Oh yeah, and it's always wonderful to be charged by the minute while they have you
climbing underneath the desk trying to change connections that you have already
changed - but they insist you have to do it again or they can't go on to the next
possible step. Definitely reading straight from a book.

Glad you had a wonderful ski trip! Once again, I got no formal exercise in today
... other than frequent trips up and down the basement stairs doing laundry.

And today was another chilly bike ride - to REI for some small items
for skiing and a CHUM to hold my bike glasses around my neck while
biking.

I got a lot of exercise in but I don't seem to see any of it on the
scale - which is scary since it may mean I am eating too much.

Could also just be that body taking a short break again, and readjusting. You
know I've fallen off the exercise track, and I fully expect to not see any changes
on the scale as I start back up. Past history has done this to me, and I also
recall reading the same thing. Exercise will build muscle and cause water
retention - takes time for actual results to show on a scale, yet results do show
other places such as clothing fitting much better or looser.

Maybe. I think I will either see results or not over this next week.

LOL! I love that statement. I see my wishy-washyness appearing in many of the
group lately. G But it has been my mantra lately, in many things ... either it
will or it won't.

Oh, is this like the flu - WishyWashy Type A! Contagious in
newsgroups.

Three more days of pretty intense skiing in very frigid temps (today
it was 10F) but my friend has done a good job of providing foods that
so tempted me. She made lots of cookies and I sampled them. She also
found Stilton with apricots - very interesting. Water retention to
help VERY SORE muscles is a definite possibility. Boy, oh, boy.
Thighs, neck and arms.

Yikes. I'd rather hole up inside, under a blanket. I am not a cold weather
person. I love the outdoors ... when it is warm! Heck, I can't get warm in my
house, let alone even think about trying to do it in 10F temps.

Seattle was really cold today and I was not dressed as I was for
skiing so it really did feel cold. Plus, the humidity in Eastern
Washington is much lower and it did not feel as cold. When I left
yesterday is was still Minus 7F. Today it was down to Minus 21F. I
hope she had enough wood chopped (G)

I've seen your weigh in results posted and highly doubt that you are eating too
much. g

I am not controlling it as well as I should even if one could say I'm
not eating too much. Just eating and eating.

Hmmmm, seems that is where I have been. Overall, I don't think I have eaten a lot
... quantity wise. But I feel like I have been continuousy *picking*.

yes, that describes it well.

Joyce

Three more days of pretty intense skiing in very frigid temps (today
it was 10F) but my friend has done a good job of providing foods that
so tempted me. She made lots of cookies and I sampled them. She also
found Stilton with apricots - very interesting. Water retention to
help VERY SORE muscles is a definite possibility. Boy, oh, boy.
Thighs, neck and arms.

Yikes. I'd rather hole up inside, under a blanket. I am not a cold weather
person. I love the outdoors ... when it is warm! Heck, I can't get warm in my
house, let alone even think about trying to do it in 10F temps.

Seattle was really cold today and I was not dressed as I was for
skiing so it really did feel cold. Plus, the humidity in Eastern
Washington is much lower and it did not feel as cold. When I left
yesterday is was still Minus 7F. Today it was down to Minus 21F. I
hope she had enough wood chopped (G)

Are those negative temps wind chill temps, or actual temps? I can't begin to
imagine -21! Brrrrrrrrrrrr! -3 was bad enough the other morning. Hub took pity
on me, came home yesterday with 2 pairs of heavy, heavy outdoor type socks. Now,
you have to realize I am a barefoot type of person ... but I put a pair on this
morning and I love these things! My feet have been toasty all day long, such a
luxury! LOL

I've seen your weigh in results posted and highly doubt that you are eating too
much. g

I am not controlling it as well as I should even if one could say I'm
not eating too much. Just eating and eating.

Hmmmm, seems that is where I have been. Overall, I don't think I have eaten a lot
... quantity wise. But I feel like I have been continuousy *picking*.

yes, that describes it well.

I've been better this week, at least am picking on fruit instead of chocolate. g

Joyce

On Thu, 08 Jan 2004 01:21:39 -0600, Joyce wrote:


Three more days of pretty intense skiing in very frigid temps (today
it was 10F) but my friend has done a good job of providing foods that
so tempted me. She made lots of cookies and I sampled them. She also
found Stilton with apricots - very interesting. Water retention to
help VERY SORE muscles is a definite possibility. Boy, oh, boy.
Thighs, neck and arms.

Yikes. I'd rather hole up inside, under a blanket. I am not a cold weather
person. I love the outdoors ... when it is warm! Heck, I can't get warm in my
house, let alone even think about trying to do it in 10F temps.

Seattle was really cold today and I was not dressed as I was for
skiing so it really did feel cold. Plus, the humidity in Eastern
Washington is much lower and it did not feel as cold. When I left
yesterday is was still Minus 7F. Today it was down to Minus 21F. I
hope she had enough wood chopped (G)

Are those negative temps wind chill temps, or actual temps? I can't begin to
imagine -21! Brrrrrrrrrrrr! -3 was bad enough the other morning. Hub took pity
on me, came home yesterday with 2 pairs of heavy, heavy outdoor type socks. Now,
you have to realize I am a barefoot type of person ... but I put a pair on this
morning and I love these things! My feet have been toasty all day long, such a
luxury! LOL

Those were the temps without calculating windchill. And there was a
breeze so I don't know how cold that made it appear.

I've seen your weigh in results posted and highly doubt that you are eating too
much. g

I am not controlling it as well as I should even if one could say I'm
not eating too much. Just eating and eating.

Hmmmm, seems that is where I have been. Overall, I don't think I have eaten a lot
... quantity wise. But I feel like I have been continuousy *picking*.

yes, that describes it well.

I've been better this week, at least am picking on fruit instead of chocolate. g

I was doing okay, till yesterday. Too many meringues and dried mango.
It is the snacking

Joyce

On Thu, 08 Jan 2004 06:49:24 -0800, Fred wrote:


Seattle was really cold today and I was not dressed as I was for
skiing so it really did feel cold. Plus, the humidity in Eastern
Washington is much lower and it did not feel as cold. When I left
yesterday is was still Minus 7F. Today it was down to Minus 21F. I
hope she had enough wood chopped (G)

Are those negative temps wind chill temps, or actual temps? I can't begin to
imagine -21! Brrrrrrrrrrrr! -3 was bad enough the other morning. Hub took pity
on me, came home yesterday with 2 pairs of heavy, heavy outdoor type socks. Now,
you have to realize I am a barefoot type of person ... but I put a pair on this
morning and I love these things! My feet have been toasty all day long, such a
luxury! LOL

Those were the temps without calculating windchill. And there was a
breeze so I don't know how cold that made it appear.

Recent discussion here at home ... when did the newscasters start speaking in
*wind-chill* temp mode? I don't seem to ever remember these figures from when I
was growing up, the temp was the temp, period. You knew it was cold, didn't need
to know much more than that. I tend to still think in just straight temperature
mode, don't figure those windchills.

I've seen your weigh in results posted and highly doubt that you are eating too
much. g

I am not controlling it as well as I should even if one could say I'm
not eating too much. Just eating and eating.

Hmmmm, seems that is where I have been. Overall, I don't think I have eaten a lot
... quantity wise. But I feel like I have been continuousy *picking*.

yes, that describes it well.

I've been better this week, at least am picking on fruit instead of chocolate. g

I was doing okay, till yesterday. Too many meringues and dried mango.
It is the snacking

LOL - I think you are having female hormonal eating swings. G I still can't
find the dried mango at Trader Joe's (boohoo for me), but munching was better
under control yesterday. What the heck causes these picking phases?

Joyce

On Thu, 08 Jan 2004 09:39:26 -0600, Joyce wrote:

On Thu, 08 Jan 2004 06:49:24 -0800, Fred wrote:


Seattle was really cold today and I was not dressed as I was for
skiing so it really did feel cold. Plus, the humidity in Eastern
Washington is much lower and it did not feel as cold. When I left
yesterday is was still Minus 7F. Today it was down to Minus 21F. I
hope she had enough wood chopped (G)

Are those negative temps wind chill temps, or actual temps? I can't begin to
imagine -21! Brrrrrrrrrrrr! -3 was bad enough the other morning. Hub took pity
on me, came home yesterday with 2 pairs of heavy, heavy outdoor type socks. Now,
you have to realize I am a barefoot type of person ... but I put a pair on this
morning and I love these things! My feet have been toasty all day long, such a
luxury! LOL

Those were the temps without calculating windchill. And there was a
breeze so I don't know how cold that made it appear.

Recent discussion here at home ... when did the newscasters start speaking in
*wind-chill* temp mode? I don't seem to ever remember these figures from when I
was growing up, the temp was the temp, period. You knew it was cold, didn't need
to know much more than that. I tend to still think in just straight temperature
mode, don't figure those windchills.

Well, Windchill is a real factor in frostbite - the cooling effect of
wind, hastens the loss of moisture which tends to cool more
(evaporative cooling) and so scientists devised a method of figuring
out what it was "worth" with breezes added to real cold temps. Altho,
I don't recall the details but either last year or the year before,
they did revise the method somewhat but I don't recall if it lowered
or raised the values calculated.

I've seen your weigh in results posted and highly doubt that you are eating too
much. g

I am not controlling it as well as I should even if one could say I'm
not eating too much. Just eating and eating.

Hmmmm, seems that is where I have been. Overall, I don't think I have eaten a lot
... quantity wise. But I feel like I have been continuousy *picking*.

yes, that describes it well.

I've been better this week, at least am picking on fruit instead of chocolate. g

I was doing okay, till yesterday. Too many meringues and dried mango.
It is the snacking

LOL - I think you are having female hormonal eating swings. G I still can't
find the dried mango at Trader Joe's (boohoo for me), but munching was better
under control yesterday. What the heck causes these picking phases?

Ah, my female side is showing - in my maternal stomach!!!! (G)

Boredom more than likely. I don't think I'm depressed but maybe I
miss that great weekend of skiing............ in frigid temps (G)


Joyce

On Thu, 08 Jan 2004 18:40:09 -0800, Fred wrote:



On Thu, 08 Jan 2004 09:39:26 -0600, Joyce wrote:

On Thu, 08 Jan 2004 06:49:24 -0800, Fred wrote:


Seattle was really cold today and I was not dressed as I was for
skiing so it really did feel cold. Plus, the humidity in Eastern
Washington is much lower and it did not feel as cold. When I left
yesterday is was still Minus 7F. Today it was down to Minus 21F. I
hope she had enough wood chopped (G)

Are those negative temps wind chill temps, or actual temps? I can't begin to
imagine -21! Brrrrrrrrrrrr! -3 was bad enough the other morning. Hub took pity
on me, came home yesterday with 2 pairs of heavy, heavy outdoor type socks. Now,
you have to realize I am a barefoot type of person ... but I put a pair on this
morning and I love these things! My feet have been toasty all day long, such a
luxury! LOL

Those were the temps without calculating windchill. And there was a
breeze so I don't know how cold that made it appear.

Recent discussion here at home ... when did the newscasters start speaking in
*wind-chill* temp mode? I don't seem to ever remember these figures from when I
was growing up, the temp was the temp, period. You knew it was cold, didn't need
to know much more than that. I tend to still think in just straight temperature
mode, don't figure those windchills.

Well, Windchill is a real factor in frostbite - the cooling effect of
wind, hastens the loss of moisture which tends to cool more
(evaporative cooling) and so scientists devised a method of figuring
out what it was "worth" with breezes added to real cold temps. Altho,
I don't recall the details but either last year or the year before,
they did revise the method somewhat but I don't recall if it lowered
or raised the values calculated.

Thanks for the explanation! So this new measurement would really be helpful for
those that are exposed to the elements for longer periods of time ... whether
hiking, skiing or everyday work that requires special precautions for the weather
conditions. I probably should pay more attention to it then, considering hub is
outside much of the time. G

I've seen your weigh in results posted and highly doubt that you are eating too
much. g

I am not controlling it as well as I should even if one could say I'm
not eating too much. Just eating and eating.

Hmmmm, seems that is where I have been. Overall, I don't think I have eaten a lot
... quantity wise. But I feel like I have been continuousy *picking*.

yes, that describes it well.

I've been better this week, at least am picking on fruit instead of chocolate. g

I was doing okay, till yesterday. Too many meringues and dried mango.
It is the snacking

LOL - I think you are having female hormonal eating swings. G I still can't
find the dried mango at Trader Joe's (boohoo for me), but munching was better
under control yesterday. What the heck causes these picking phases?

Ah, my female side is showing - in my maternal stomach!!!! (G)

Boredom more than likely. I don't think I'm depressed but maybe I
miss that great weekend of skiing............ in frigid temps (G)

Depression is definitely not the issue for me ... can't eat when depressed or
upset. Last night proved that fact. Had some problems that caused me to hit a
low that I haven't felt in quite some time (TOM didn't help at all). Had to fix
dinner for the fam, ate a little bit but nowhere near normal and didn't have a
thing for the rest of the night.

I can believe you may have missed the skiing - but will never buy that you missed
those temps!

Joyce

Yup. That's why they came up with the system - to account for how the
wind magnifies the chilling effects.

On Fri, 09 Jan 2004 12:00:51 -0600, Joyce wrote:

On Thu, 08 Jan 2004 18:40:09 -0800, Fred wrote:



On Thu, 08 Jan 2004 09:39:26 -0600, Joyce wrote:

On Thu, 08 Jan 2004 06:49:24 -0800, Fred wrote:


Seattle was really cold today and I was not dressed as I was for
skiing so it really did feel cold. Plus, the humidity in Eastern
Washington is much lower and it did not feel as cold. When I left
yesterday is was still Minus 7F. Today it was down to Minus 21F. I
hope she had enough wood chopped (G)

Are those negative temps wind chill temps, or actual temps? I can't begin to
imagine -21! Brrrrrrrrrrrr! -3 was bad enough the other morning. Hub took pity
on me, came home yesterday with 2 pairs of heavy, heavy outdoor type socks. Now,
you have to realize I am a barefoot type of person ... but I put a pair on this
morning and I love these things! My feet have been toasty all day long, such a
luxury! LOL

Those were the temps without calculating windchill. And there was a
breeze so I don't know how cold that made it appear.

Recent discussion here at home ... when did the newscasters start speaking in
*wind-chill* temp mode? I don't seem to ever remember these figures from when I
was growing up, the temp was the temp, period. You knew it was cold, didn't need
to know much more than that. I tend to still think in just straight temperature
mode, don't figure those windchills.

Well, Windchill is a real factor in frostbite - the cooling effect of
wind, hastens the loss of moisture which tends to cool more
(evaporative cooling) and so scientists devised a method of figuring
out what it was "worth" with breezes added to real cold temps. Altho,
I don't recall the details but either last year or the year before,
they did revise the method somewhat but I don't recall if it lowered
or raised the values calculated.

Thanks for the explanation! So this new measurement would really be helpful for
those that are exposed to the elements for longer periods of time ... whether
hiking, skiing or everyday work that requires special precautions for the weather
conditions. I probably should pay more attention to it then, considering hub is
outside much of the time. G

I've seen your weigh in results posted and highly doubt that you are eating too
much. g

I am not controlling it as well as I should even if one could say I'm
not eating too much. Just eating and eating.

Hmmmm, seems that is where I have been. Overall, I don't think I have eaten a lot
... quantity wise. But I feel like I have been continuousy *picking*.

yes, that describes it well.

I've been better this week, at least am picking on fruit instead of chocolate. g

I was doing okay, till yesterday. Too many meringues and dried mango.
It is the snacking

LOL - I think you are having female hormonal eating swings. G I still can't
find the dried mango at Trader Joe's (boohoo for me), but munching was better
under control yesterday. What the heck causes these picking phases?

Ah, my female side is showing - in my maternal stomach!!!! (G)

Boredom more than likely. I don't think I'm depressed but maybe I
miss that great weekend of skiing............ in frigid temps (G)

Depression is definitely not the issue for me ... can't eat when depressed or
upset. Last night proved that fact. Had some problems that caused me to hit a
low that I haven't felt in quite some time (TOM didn't help at all). Had to fix
dinner for the fam, ate a little bit but nowhere near normal and didn't have a
thing for the rest of the night.

I can believe you may have missed the skiing - but will never buy that you missed
those temps!

Joyce

The snow is almost all gone - and the sun is making a brief showing.
43F

And the snow in the mountains is going to get messed up and the
avalanche danger HIGH!!!!

On Fri, 09 Jan 2004 12:00:51 -0600, Joyce wrote:

On Thu, 08 Jan 2004 18:40:09 -0800, Fred wrote:



On Thu, 08 Jan 2004 09:39:26 -0600, Joyce wrote:

On Thu, 08 Jan 2004 06:49:24 -0800, Fred wrote:


Seattle was really cold today and I was not dressed as I was for
skiing so it really did feel cold. Plus, the humidity in Eastern
Washington is much lower and it did not feel as cold. When I left
yesterday is was still Minus 7F. Today it was down to Minus 21F. I
hope she had enough wood chopped (G)

Are those negative temps wind chill temps, or actual temps? I can't begin to
imagine -21! Brrrrrrrrrrrr! -3 was bad enough the other morning. Hub took pity
on me, came home yesterday with 2 pairs of heavy, heavy outdoor type socks. Now,
you have to realize I am a barefoot type of person ... but I put a pair on this
morning and I love these things! My feet have been toasty all day long, such a
luxury! LOL

Those were the temps without calculating windchill. And there was a
breeze so I don't know how cold that made it appear.

Recent discussion here at home ... when did the newscasters start speaking in
*wind-chill* temp mode? I don't seem to ever remember these figures from when I
was growing up, the temp was the temp, period. You knew it was cold, didn't need
to know much more than that. I tend to still think in just straight temperature
mode, don't figure those windchills.

Well, Windchill is a real factor in frostbite - the cooling effect of
wind, hastens the loss of moisture which tends to cool more
(evaporative cooling) and so scientists devised a method of figuring
out what it was "worth" with breezes added to real cold temps. Altho,
I don't recall the details but either last year or the year before,
they did revise the method somewhat but I don't recall if it lowered
or raised the values calculated.

Thanks for the explanation! So this new measurement would really be helpful for
those that are exposed to the elements for longer periods of time ... whether
hiking, skiing or everyday work that requires special precautions for the weather
conditions. I probably should pay more attention to it then, considering hub is
outside much of the time. G

I've seen your weigh in results posted and highly doubt that you are eating too
much. g

I am not controlling it as well as I should even if one could say I'm
not eating too much. Just eating and eating.

Hmmmm, seems that is where I have been. Overall, I don't think I have eaten a lot
... quantity wise. But I feel like I have been continuousy *picking*.

yes, that describes it well.

I've been better this week, at least am picking on fruit instead of chocolate. g

I was doing okay, till yesterday. Too many meringues and dried mango.
It is the snacking

LOL - I think you are having female hormonal eating swings. G I still can't
find the dried mango at Trader Joe's (boohoo for me), but munching was better
under control yesterday. What the heck causes these picking phases?

Ah, my female side is showing - in my maternal stomach!!!! (G)

Boredom more than likely. I don't think I'm depressed but maybe I
miss that great weekend of skiing............ in frigid temps (G)

Depression is definitely not the issue for me ... can't eat when depressed or
upset. Last night proved that fact. Had some problems that caused me to hit a
low that I haven't felt in quite some time (TOM didn't help at all). Had to fix
dinner for the fam, ate a little bit but nowhere near normal and didn't have a
thing for the rest of the night.

I can believe you may have missed the skiing - but will never buy that you missed
those temps!

Joyce