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National Weight Control Registry
Cubit wrote:
Yes "Steve" wrote in message ps.com... On Apr 11, 1:31 pm, "Bob in CT" wrote: You know, at one time I tried to sign up for the NWCR, but I had no pictures of myself when I was my biggest. I ran from the camera then (and still do). Do you need before and after pictures to join the National Weight Control Registry? I joined the registry over 7 years ago and never had to submit a photo. After many years of trying to correctly answer their slanted questionnaires, I quit last year. Its very difficult to go through their questionnaires knowing that the study is not objective. It was transparent that the study was only looking at low-fat as a means to lose 'weight' (another issue I had with them was 'weight' vs. bodyfat). One of my BA's is in Psychology, with a heavy load in experimental methods (the design and analyst of testing). Knowing that research is worthless unless you strive for objectivity makes the whole process extremely frustrating. You can google my name rrzvrr and "National Weight Control Registry" and you can read about my experiences with the study. -- Rudy - Remove the Z from my address to respond. "It is better to die on your feet than to live on your knees!" -Emiliano Zapata Check out the a.s.d.l-c FAQ at: http://www.grossweb.com/asdlc/faq.htm |
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On May 3, 5:04 am, RRzVRR wrote:
Cubit wrote: Yes "Steve" wrote in message ups.com... On Apr 11, 1:31 pm, "Bob in CT" wrote: You know, at one time I tried to sign up for the NWCR, but I had no pictures of myself when I was my biggest. I ran from the camera then (and still do). Do you need before and after pictures to join the National Weight Control Registry? I joined the registry over 7 years ago and never had to submit a photo. After many years of trying to correctly answer their slanted questionnaires, I quit last year. Its very difficult to go through their questionnaires knowing that the study is not objective. It was transparent that the study was only looking at low-fat as a means to lose 'weight' (another issue I had with them was 'weight' vs. bodyfat). One of my BA's is in Psychology, with a heavy load in experimental methods (the design and analyst of testing). Knowing that research is worthless unless you strive for objectivity makes the whole process extremely frustrating. That was the conclusion I came to many years ago when I looked at it too. I started to answer the questions, but it as apparent that it was slanted and very difficult to even complete the questions with vaild data if you're doing LC. So, I never joined, as I didn't believe they were doing anything fair or useful. |
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Thanks for confirming my suspicions about the National Weight
Registry, and for saving me filling out the reams of paperwork they want BEFORE joining the study. Although, I would have enjoyed being a statistical outlier. On May 3, 3:04 am, RRzVRR wrote: Cubit wrote: Its very difficult to go through their questionnaires knowing that the study is not objective. It was transparent that the study was only looking at low-fat as a means to lose 'weight' (another issue I had with them was 'weight' vs. bodyfat). One of my BA's is in Psychology, with a heavy load in experimental methods (the design and analyst of testing). Knowing that research is worthless unless you strive for objectivity makes the whole process extremely frustrating. |
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On May 3, 6:04 am, RRzVRR wrote:
Its very difficult to go through their questionnaires knowing that the study is not objective. It was transparent that the study was only looking at low-fat as a means to lose 'weight' (another issue I had with them was 'weight' vs. bodyfat). One of my BA's is in Psychology, with a heavy load in experimental methods (the design and analyst of testing). Knowing that research is worthless unless you strive for objectivity makes the whole process extremely frustrating. At the least the NWCR will be out there as a set of examples that people can hold on to a weight loss long term. So many people think it is impossible, many with credentials, think it is highly unlikely. |
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On 3 May 2007 19:05:33 -0700, Steve wrote:
At the least the NWCR will be out there as a set of examples that people can hold on to a weight loss long term. NMote the word examples instead of populace. So many people think it is impossible, many with credentials, think it is highly unlikely Why7 is that? Because that's the facts JackSteve -- http://www.steppenwolf.com/lyr/mnnster.html |
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Indeed. The questionnaire is biased. However, my feeling is that it was an
honest bias. By that, I mean that I don't think these people will fake the data, but, rather, they have some things they wanted to prove, and thus, the bias. My hope is that someday the raw data they collect will be available to others who are more objective, and that my data will support *my* biases and hopes for a proper healthy way to eat and live. If you know of somewhere else, anyplace else, that allows ordinary folks to join a similar but proper study, let me know. Also, as biased as the questions may be, they are collecting the weight history over time. Any true winners can be revisited. They have already done some of this. I saw a TV show based on 2 people chosen as examples of winners from the study. One was a woman who taught an aerobics class. The other was a man, and I don't remember too much about him. wrote in message oups.com... On May 3, 5:04 am, RRzVRR wrote: Cubit wrote: Yes "Steve" wrote in message ups.com... On Apr 11, 1:31 pm, "Bob in CT" wrote: You know, at one time I tried to sign up for the NWCR, but I had no pictures of myself when I was my biggest. I ran from the camera then (and still do). Do you need before and after pictures to join the National Weight Control Registry? I joined the registry over 7 years ago and never had to submit a photo. After many years of trying to correctly answer their slanted questionnaires, I quit last year. Its very difficult to go through their questionnaires knowing that the study is not objective. It was transparent that the study was only looking at low-fat as a means to lose 'weight' (another issue I had with them was 'weight' vs. bodyfat). One of my BA's is in Psychology, with a heavy load in experimental methods (the design and analyst of testing). Knowing that research is worthless unless you strive for objectivity makes the whole process extremely frustrating. That was the conclusion I came to many years ago when I looked at it too. I started to answer the questions, but it as apparent that it was slanted and very difficult to even complete the questions with vaild data if you're doing LC. So, I never joined, as I didn't believe they were doing anything fair or useful. |
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On May 3, 6:04 am, RRzVRR wrote:
Its very difficult to go through their questionnaires knowing that the study is not objective. It was transparent that the study was only looking at low-fat as a means to lose 'weight' (another issue I had with them was 'weight' vs. bodyfat). A few months ago I googled on "The National Weight Control Registry". I found many articles on what they were about and what generalities they have learned. These articles said while the bulk of successful maintainers in the registry continue to monitor their food after reaching their goal, continue to weigh themselves frequently and use a low fat diet that there was a growing minority in the registry that uses carb control. |
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If the low carbers are revolted by the questionnaire, the stats are skewed.
"Steve" wrote in message ups.com... On May 3, 6:04 am, RRzVRR wrote: Its very difficult to go through their questionnaires knowing that the study is not objective. It was transparent that the study was only looking at low-fat as a means to lose 'weight' (another issue I had with them was 'weight' vs. bodyfat). A few months ago I googled on "The National Weight Control Registry". I found many articles on what they were about and what generalities they have learned. These articles said while the bulk of successful maintainers in the registry continue to monitor their food after reaching their goal, continue to weigh themselves frequently and use a low fat diet that there was a growing minority in the registry that uses carb control. |
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