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Old May 3rd, 2007, 11:04 AM posted to alt.support.diet,alt.support.diet.low-carb
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Cubit wrote:

Yes

"Steve" wrote in message
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On Apr 11, 1:31 pm, "Bob in CT" wrote:

You know, at one time I tried to sign up for the NWCR, but I had no
pictures of myself when I was my biggest. I ran from the camera then
(and
still do).


Do you need before and after pictures to join the National Weight
Control Registry?


I joined the registry over 7 years ago and never had to submit a
photo. After many years of trying to correctly answer their
slanted questionnaires, I quit last year.

Its very difficult to go through their questionnaires knowing
that the study is not objective. It was transparent that the
study was only looking at low-fat as a means to lose 'weight'
(another issue I had with them was 'weight' vs. bodyfat). One of
my BA's is in Psychology, with a heavy load in experimental
methods (the design and analyst of testing). Knowing that
research is worthless unless you strive for objectivity makes the
whole process extremely frustrating.

You can google my name rrzvrr and "National Weight Control
Registry" and you can read about my experiences with the study.


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Old May 3rd, 2007, 04:41 PM posted to alt.support.diet,alt.support.diet.low-carb
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On May 3, 5:04 am, RRzVRR wrote:
Cubit wrote:
Yes


"Steve" wrote in message
ups.com...


On Apr 11, 1:31 pm, "Bob in CT" wrote:


You know, at one time I tried to sign up for the NWCR, but I had no
pictures of myself when I was my biggest. I ran from the camera then
(and
still do).


Do you need before and after pictures to join the National Weight
Control Registry?


I joined the registry over 7 years ago and never had to submit a
photo. After many years of trying to correctly answer their
slanted questionnaires, I quit last year.

Its very difficult to go through their questionnaires knowing
that the study is not objective. It was transparent that the
study was only looking at low-fat as a means to lose 'weight'
(another issue I had with them was 'weight' vs. bodyfat). One of
my BA's is in Psychology, with a heavy load in experimental
methods (the design and analyst of testing). Knowing that
research is worthless unless you strive for objectivity makes the
whole process extremely frustrating.


That was the conclusion I came to many years ago when I looked at it
too. I started to answer the questions, but it as apparent that it
was slanted and very difficult to even complete the questions with
vaild data if you're doing LC. So, I never joined, as I didn't
believe they were doing anything fair or useful.




  #13  
Old May 3rd, 2007, 05:36 PM posted to alt.support.diet,alt.support.diet.low-carb
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Thanks for confirming my suspicions about the National Weight
Registry, and for saving me filling out the reams of paperwork they
want BEFORE joining the study. Although, I would have enjoyed being a
statistical outlier.

On May 3, 3:04 am, RRzVRR wrote:
Cubit wrote:



Its very difficult to go through their questionnaires knowing
that the study is not objective. It was transparent that the
study was only looking at low-fat as a means to lose 'weight'
(another issue I had with them was 'weight' vs. bodyfat). One of
my BA's is in Psychology, with a heavy load in experimental
methods (the design and analyst of testing). Knowing that
research is worthless unless you strive for objectivity makes the
whole process extremely frustrating.




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Old May 4th, 2007, 03:05 AM posted to alt.support.diet,alt.support.diet.low-carb
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On May 3, 6:04 am, RRzVRR wrote:
Its very difficult to go through their questionnaires knowing
that the study is not objective. It was transparent that the
study was only looking at low-fat as a means to lose 'weight'
(another issue I had with them was 'weight' vs. bodyfat). One of
my BA's is in Psychology, with a heavy load in experimental
methods (the design and analyst of testing). Knowing that
research is worthless unless you strive for objectivity makes the
whole process extremely frustrating.


At the least the NWCR will be out there as a set of examples that
people can hold on to a weight loss long term.

So many people think it is impossible, many with credentials, think it
is highly unlikely.


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Old May 4th, 2007, 06:09 AM posted to alt.support.diet,alt.support.diet.low-carb
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On 3 May 2007 19:05:33 -0700, Steve wrote:

At the least the NWCR will be out there as a set of examples that
people can hold on to a weight loss long term.


NMote the word examples instead of populace.

So many people think it is impossible, many with credentials, think it
is highly unlikely


Why7 is that? Because that's the facts JackSteve
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Old May 6th, 2007, 07:22 PM posted to alt.support.diet,alt.support.diet.low-carb
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Indeed. The questionnaire is biased. However, my feeling is that it was an
honest bias. By that, I mean that I don't think these people will fake the
data, but, rather, they have some things they wanted to prove, and thus, the
bias.

My hope is that someday the raw data they collect will be available to
others who are more objective, and that my data will support *my* biases and
hopes for a proper healthy way to eat and live.

If you know of somewhere else, anyplace else, that allows ordinary folks to
join a similar but proper study, let me know.

Also, as biased as the questions may be, they are collecting the weight
history over time. Any true winners can be revisited. They have already
done some of this. I saw a TV show based on 2 people chosen as examples of
winners from the study. One was a woman who taught an aerobics class. The
other was a man, and I don't remember too much about him.



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On May 3, 5:04 am, RRzVRR wrote:
Cubit wrote:
Yes


"Steve" wrote in message
ups.com...


On Apr 11, 1:31 pm, "Bob in CT" wrote:


You know, at one time I tried to sign up for the NWCR, but I had no
pictures of myself when I was my biggest. I ran from the camera then
(and
still do).


Do you need before and after pictures to join the National Weight
Control Registry?


I joined the registry over 7 years ago and never had to submit a
photo. After many years of trying to correctly answer their
slanted questionnaires, I quit last year.

Its very difficult to go through their questionnaires knowing
that the study is not objective. It was transparent that the
study was only looking at low-fat as a means to lose 'weight'
(another issue I had with them was 'weight' vs. bodyfat). One of
my BA's is in Psychology, with a heavy load in experimental
methods (the design and analyst of testing). Knowing that
research is worthless unless you strive for objectivity makes the
whole process extremely frustrating.


That was the conclusion I came to many years ago when I looked at it
too. I started to answer the questions, but it as apparent that it
was slanted and very difficult to even complete the questions with
vaild data if you're doing LC. So, I never joined, as I didn't
believe they were doing anything fair or useful.






  #17  
Old May 6th, 2007, 11:55 PM posted to alt.support.diet
Steve
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On May 3, 6:04 am, RRzVRR wrote:
Its very difficult to go through their questionnaires knowing
that the study is not objective. It was transparent that the
study was only looking at low-fat as a means to lose 'weight'
(another issue I had with them was 'weight' vs. bodyfat).


A few months ago I googled on "The National Weight Control Registry".
I found many articles on what they were about and what generalities
they have learned.
These articles said while the bulk of successful maintainers in the
registry continue to monitor their food after reaching their goal,
continue to weigh themselves frequently and use a low fat diet that
there was a growing minority in the registry that uses carb control.

  #18  
Old May 10th, 2007, 07:59 PM posted to alt.support.diet
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If the low carbers are revolted by the questionnaire, the stats are skewed.


"Steve" wrote in message
ups.com...
On May 3, 6:04 am, RRzVRR wrote:
Its very difficult to go through their questionnaires knowing
that the study is not objective. It was transparent that the
study was only looking at low-fat as a means to lose 'weight'
(another issue I had with them was 'weight' vs. bodyfat).


A few months ago I googled on "The National Weight Control Registry".
I found many articles on what they were about and what generalities
they have learned.
These articles said while the bulk of successful maintainers in the
registry continue to monitor their food after reaching their goal,
continue to weigh themselves frequently and use a low fat diet that
there was a growing minority in the registry that uses carb control.




 




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