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Old December 15th, 2003, 06:01 PM
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I'm such a skeptic about diet and nutritional claims (because so many
are bogus) but am interested in this Low carb mania that seems to be
popular these days.

I notice that in the supermarkets there are new products touting
themselves as "Low Carb" with the insinuation that that will help with
weight control.

As I understand it, low carb foods tend to lessen the "amplitude" of
blood insulin levels which can cause hunger signals and consequently
cause a person to eat more. If that's true, isn't the bottom line STILL
calories "in" versus calories "out" or is there something else that the
low carb diet does?

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Old December 15th, 2003, 06:09 PM
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as far as I know you are right minus the hunger... I have been on a low carb
for nearly a week now and I am not rungry at all ...

I just eat meat and eggs all the time, its great ....

things I miss are chewing gum and Bread



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I'm such a skeptic about diet and nutritional claims (because so many
are bogus) but am interested in this Low carb mania that seems to be
popular these days.

I notice that in the supermarkets there are new products touting
themselves as "Low Carb" with the insinuation that that will help with
weight control.

As I understand it, low carb foods tend to lessen the "amplitude" of
blood insulin levels which can cause hunger signals and consequently
cause a person to eat more. If that's true, isn't the bottom line STILL
calories "in" versus calories "out" or is there something else that the
low carb diet does?

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Old December 15th, 2003, 09:29 PM
Trent Duke
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The low carb diet craze is nothing new. It's been around for several
decades. Dr. Atkins has simply reintroduced it in a marketing way that made
sense to many, hence it caught on.

Does it work? Sure it does cause the average caloric intake per person has
increased to over 3000 a day. Atkins sample day of food caloric intake is
less than 2000. So if do the plan you are gonna lose weight cause you are
EATING LESS...not all due to "low carbs."

You take those same calories and reduce fat intake and simple carbs while
keeping those important complex carbs, you are still gonna lose about the
same amount of weight over a 12 month period. Most studies prove this.

Either way, exercising is crucial and many of those on low carb plans forget
that. When exercising you NEED complex carbs...the good carbs.

An increase in fiber intake to at least 30g a day is also crucial.

A diet (doesn't always mean to lose weight) is a lifestyle. You must decide
for yourself which is better for you and to get you to your goals. I
personally do not think the extreme low carb diet is the route to go cause
it is very hard to do long term.

In regards to those low carb foods, you have to be careful, cause unless
they are low in calories where you are reducing your overall caloric intake
for your active lifestyle, they aren't gonna do much for you in losing
weight.

HTH a little

Trent


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Subject: Low carb diets



I'm such a skeptic about diet and nutritional claims (because so many
are bogus) but am interested in this Low carb mania that seems to be
popular these days.

I notice that in the supermarkets there are new products touting
themselves as "Low Carb" with the insinuation that that will help with
weight control.

As I understand it, low carb foods tend to lessen the "amplitude" of
blood insulin levels which can cause hunger signals and consequently
cause a person to eat more. If that's true, isn't the bottom line STILL
calories "in" versus calories "out" or is there something else that the
low carb diet does?

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Old December 15th, 2003, 08:07 PM
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On Mon, 15 Dec 2003 17:01:35 GMT, wrote:



I'm such a skeptic about diet and nutritional claims (because so many
are bogus) but am interested in this Low carb mania that seems to be
popular these days.

I notice that in the supermarkets there are new products touting
themselves as "Low Carb" with the insinuation that that will help with
weight control.

As I understand it, low carb foods tend to lessen the "amplitude" of
blood insulin levels which can cause hunger signals and consequently
cause a person to eat more. If that's true, isn't the bottom line STILL
calories "in" versus calories "out" or is there something else that the
low carb diet does?


Basically Atkins works by limiting calories. The limiting factor is
that it's quite a hassle to be strictly low-carb, so people tend to
eat fewer calories.
BUT from what I've read, it's more efficient to burn carbs as fuel, so
it's possible you can eat slightly more calories on a "low carb" diet,
or all else being equal you may lose slightly more on Atkins.

The best diet for you is one that helps you limit calories and one
that you can keep to. Remember a diet isn't just for Christmas, it's
for the rest of your life.

Finally, exercise is probably as essential as calories. The best diet
is one that helps you eat less and move more.

Ray

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Old December 16th, 2003, 02:20 AM
PKGuy323
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In the recent Atkins books, I caught a couple of sentences that
indicate it IS about calorie reduction.

All I absorbed from that is it doesn't matter what you intake, it is
how MUCH you intake-whether it be eggs, steak, potatoes, rice or cake.

When I read that, I thought-WHY AM I SUFFERING? WHY NOT EAT CARBS?

I just choose more wheat over white-to increase fiber and enjoy my
carbs, just lighten up the amount of food I eat.

Problem solved....
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Old December 15th, 2003, 09:51 PM
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On Mon, 15 Dec 2003 17:01:35 GMT, wrote:



I'm such a skeptic about diet and nutritional claims (because so many
are bogus) but am interested in this Low carb mania that seems to be
popular these days.

I notice that in the supermarkets there are new products touting
themselves as "Low Carb" with the insinuation that that will help with
weight control.

As I understand it, low carb foods tend to lessen the "amplitude" of
blood insulin levels which can cause hunger signals and consequently
cause a person to eat more. If that's true, isn't the bottom line STILL
calories "in" versus calories "out" or is there something else that the
low carb diet does?


Where was all the concern about the high-carb diets?

Where was all the concern about the no-fat diets?

Proton Soup

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Old December 16th, 2003, 03:27 AM
Peter Webb
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SNIP

Where was all the concern about the high-carb diets?

Where was all the concern about the no-fat diets?

Proton Soup


Exactly. Nutritionists HATE Atkins because it demonstrates that the whole
food pyramid thing - the central tenet of many nutritionists beliefs - is
absolute crap.

Further, many nutritionists have some sort of ecological axe to grind where
they encourage us to eat less meat and more rabbit food.

Low fat diets fitted into the food pyramid theory and their political
beliefs, so nutritionists generally support them. Low carb diets do not.
Rather than change their theories to fit into the facts obseved by millions
of dieters world-wide, they invent concerns which they never expressed for
other diets or simply deny that the diets work.

Peter Webb





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Old December 15th, 2003, 10:35 PM
Roger Zoul
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Patricia Heil wrote:
:: A report by JAMA said it's just another variety of reduced
:: calorie eating plan and it has all the problems of other
:: specialty diets, namely people get bored with the selection
:: and stop following it.

There are ways to mitigate getting bored with the selection. I find the
selection is quite wide. And, on occasion, I eat whatever I want. I just
make sure that 90 % of the time I'm on LC with a wide selection of food
items.

::
:: Start an exercise program and get a referral to a registered
:: dietitian for help with choosing and cooking foods right.

Exercise program = good. Referall to registered dietitian = nuts.

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:: wrote:
:::
::: I'm such a skeptic about diet and nutritional claims (because so
::: many are bogus) but am interested in this Low carb mania that seems
::: to be popular these days.
:::
::: I notice that in the supermarkets there are new products touting
::: themselves as "Low Carb" with the insinuation that that will help
::: with weight control.
:::
::: As I understand it, low carb foods tend to lessen the "amplitude" of
::: blood insulin levels which can cause hunger signals and consequently
::: cause a person to eat more. If that's true, isn't the bottom line
::: STILL calories "in" versus calories "out" or is there something
::: else that the low carb diet does?
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Old December 16th, 2003, 12:06 AM
Lyle McDonald
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Patricia Heil wrote:

A report by JAMA said it's just another variety of reduced
calorie eating plan and it has all the problems of other
specialty diets, namely people get bored with the selection
and stop following it.

Start an exercise program and get a referral to a registered
dietitian for help with choosing and cooking foods right.


RD's will guarantee that you never make progress.
Great advice, Patricia!

Lyle

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I'm such a skeptic about diet and nutritional claims (because so many
are bogus) but am interested in this Low carb mania that seems to be
popular these days.

I notice that in the supermarkets there are new products touting
themselves as "Low Carb" with the insinuation that that will help with
weight control.

As I understand it, low carb foods tend to lessen the "amplitude" of
blood insulin levels which can cause hunger signals and consequently
cause a person to eat more. If that's true, isn't the bottom line STILL
calories "in" versus calories "out" or is there something else that the
low carb diet does?

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