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Obesity as unhealthy as heart failure
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Hash: SHA1 On 9 Dec 2004 03:21:46 -0000, s (Gandolf Parker) wrote: On 8 Dec 2004, (Bernadette Bosky) wrote: In article , On 6 Dec 2004, (Bernadette Bosky) wrote: Yes, fitness is important, and a lot of fat people are unfit. However, multiple studies show that people can be fat and fit, and that those people are generally as healthy as thinner people, more healthy than non-fit thinner people. This very long term study of thousands of men and women demonstrates that thin-unfit women have a lower mortality rate than allegedly fit-fat women. 16 to 12 years is decent, yeah. I've seen 30 years or more, which is probbaly better, especially since the average subject was still in an age in whcih not many people are dying, so a few deaths can make percentages seem much more significant than they are. (Campos makes this point very well, with numbers from actual studies.) I have to say the abstract confuses me. Did they count actual deaths, or just deaths predicted by how people scored on the hazard ratios? Are you providing us with another stellar example of intellectual sloth, or are you intentionally misrepresenting the facts? Re-read the abstract and try responding to the actual facts presented. Is this another example of you allegedly kicking my butt? LOL! Gee, sounds like syphilis, doesn't it? LV Lady Veteran - ----------------------------------- "I rode a tank and held a general's rank when the blitzkrieg raged and the bodies stank..." - -Rolling Stones, Sympathy for the Devil - ------------------------------------------------ People who hide behind anonymous remailers and ridicule fat people are cowardly idiots with no motive but malice. - --------------------------------------------- "Be who you are and say what you feel because those who mind don't matter and those who matter don't mind." - --Unknown - ------------------------------- -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: PGP 8.0 - not licensed for commercial use: www.pgp.com iQA/AwUBQbphT8jazA1WMM1JEQIszACgjULOirKibqqcZJTsfgqqio 3xm7AAnR1E Ff4R4+uwy2Zp0RsdRT1Q29MG =aV3Z -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- |
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"Lady Veteran" wrote in message news -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 On 9 Dec 2004 03:21:46 -0000, s (Gandolf Parker) wrote: On 8 Dec 2004, (Bernadette Bosky) wrote: In article , On 6 Dec 2004, (Bernadette Bosky) wrote: Yes, fitness is important, and a lot of fat people are unfit. However, multiple studies show that people can be fat and fit, and that those people are generally as healthy as thinner people, more healthy than non-fit thinner people. This very long term study of thousands of men and women demonstrates that thin-unfit women have a lower mortality rate than allegedly fit-fat women. 16 to 12 years is decent, yeah. I've seen 30 years or more, which is probbaly better, especially since the average subject was still in an age in whcih not many people are dying, so a few deaths can make percentages seem much more significant than they are. (Campos makes this point very well, with numbers from actual studies.) I have to say the abstract confuses me. Did they count actual deaths, or just deaths predicted by how people scored on the hazard ratios? Are you providing us with another stellar example of intellectual sloth, or are you intentionally misrepresenting the facts? Re-read the abstract and try responding to the actual facts presented. Is this another example of you allegedly kicking my butt? LOL! Gee, sounds like syphilis, doesn't it? LV Lady Veteran - ----------------------------------- "I rode a tank and held a general's rank when the blitzkrieg raged and the bodies stank..." - -Rolling Stones, Sympathy for the Devil - ------------------------------------------------ People who hide behind anonymous remailers and ridicule fat people are cowardly idiots with no motive but malice. - --------------------------------------------- "Be who you are and say what you feel because those who mind don't matter and those who matter don't mind." - --Unknown - ------------------------------- -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: PGP 8.0 - not licensed for commercial use: www.pgp.com iQA/AwUBQbphT8jazA1WMM1JEQIszACgjULOirKibqqcZJTsfgqqio 3xm7AAnR1E Ff4R4+uwy2Zp0RsdRT1Q29MG =aV3Z -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- All that crap in your posts overwhelmes whatever you are saying. end pgp..signature? whats up with that stuff? Jim |
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Jim wrote:
"Lady Veteran" wrote in message news -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 On 9 Dec 2004 03:21:46 -0000, s (Gandolf Parker) wrote: On 8 Dec 2004, (Bernadette Bosky) wrote: In article , On 6 Dec 2004, (Bernadette Bosky) wrote: Yes, fitness is important, and a lot of fat people are unfit. However, multiple studies show that people can be fat and fit, and that those people are generally as healthy as thinner people, more healthy than non-fit thinner people. This very long term study of thousands of men and women demonstrates that thin-unfit women have a lower mortality rate than allegedly fit-fat women. 16 to 12 years is decent, yeah. I've seen 30 years or more, which is probbaly better, especially since the average subject was still in an age in whcih not many people are dying, so a few deaths can make percentages seem much more significant than they are. (Campos makes this point very well, with numbers from actual studies.) I have to say the abstract confuses me. Did they count actual deaths, or just deaths predicted by how people scored on the hazard ratios? Are you providing us with another stellar example of intellectual sloth, or are you intentionally misrepresenting the facts? Re-read the abstract and try responding to the actual facts presented. Is this another example of you allegedly kicking my butt? LOL! Gee, sounds like syphilis, doesn't it? LV Lady Veteran - ----------------------------------- "I rode a tank and held a general's rank when the blitzkrieg raged and the bodies stank..." - -Rolling Stones, Sympathy for the Devil - ------------------------------------------------ People who hide behind anonymous remailers and ridicule fat people are cowardly idiots with no motive but malice. - --------------------------------------------- "Be who you are and say what you feel because those who mind don't matter and those who matter don't mind." - --Unknown - ------------------------------- -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: PGP 8.0 - not licensed for commercial use: www.pgp.com iQA/AwUBQbphT8jazA1WMM1JEQIszACgjULOirKibqqcZJTsfgqqio 3xm7AAnR1E Ff4R4+uwy2Zp0RsdRT1Q29MG =aV3Z -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- All that crap in your posts overwhelmes whatever you are saying. end pgp..signature? whats up with that stuff? Jim It matches her ass Jim. -- -Larry |
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Jim wrote:
"Lady Veteran" wrote in message news -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 On 9 Dec 2004 03:21:46 -0000, s (Gandolf Parker) wrote: On 8 Dec 2004, (Bernadette Bosky) wrote: In article , On 6 Dec 2004, (Bernadette Bosky) wrote: Yes, fitness is important, and a lot of fat people are unfit. However, multiple studies show that people can be fat and fit, and that those people are generally as healthy as thinner people, more healthy than non-fit thinner people. This very long term study of thousands of men and women demonstrates that thin-unfit women have a lower mortality rate than allegedly fit-fat women. 16 to 12 years is decent, yeah. I've seen 30 years or more, which is probbaly better, especially since the average subject was still in an age in whcih not many people are dying, so a few deaths can make percentages seem much more significant than they are. (Campos makes this point very well, with numbers from actual studies.) I have to say the abstract confuses me. Did they count actual deaths, or just deaths predicted by how people scored on the hazard ratios? Are you providing us with another stellar example of intellectual sloth, or are you intentionally misrepresenting the facts? Re-read the abstract and try responding to the actual facts presented. Is this another example of you allegedly kicking my butt? LOL! Gee, sounds like syphilis, doesn't it? LV Lady Veteran - ----------------------------------- "I rode a tank and held a general's rank when the blitzkrieg raged and the bodies stank..." - -Rolling Stones, Sympathy for the Devil - ------------------------------------------------ People who hide behind anonymous remailers and ridicule fat people are cowardly idiots with no motive but malice. - --------------------------------------------- "Be who you are and say what you feel because those who mind don't matter and those who matter don't mind." - --Unknown - ------------------------------- -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: PGP 8.0 - not licensed for commercial use: www.pgp.com iQA/AwUBQbphT8jazA1WMM1JEQIszACgjULOirKibqqcZJTsfgqqio 3xm7AAnR1E Ff4R4+uwy2Zp0RsdRT1Q29MG =aV3Z -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- All that crap in your posts overwhelmes whatever you are saying. end pgp..signature? whats up with that stuff? Jim It matches her ass Jim. -- -Larry |
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Jim wrote:
"Lady Veteran" wrote in message news -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 On 9 Dec 2004 03:21:46 -0000, s (Gandolf Parker) wrote: On 8 Dec 2004, (Bernadette Bosky) wrote: In article , On 6 Dec 2004, (Bernadette Bosky) wrote: Yes, fitness is important, and a lot of fat people are unfit. However, multiple studies show that people can be fat and fit, and that those people are generally as healthy as thinner people, more healthy than non-fit thinner people. This very long term study of thousands of men and women demonstrates that thin-unfit women have a lower mortality rate than allegedly fit-fat women. 16 to 12 years is decent, yeah. I've seen 30 years or more, which is probbaly better, especially since the average subject was still in an age in whcih not many people are dying, so a few deaths can make percentages seem much more significant than they are. (Campos makes this point very well, with numbers from actual studies.) I have to say the abstract confuses me. Did they count actual deaths, or just deaths predicted by how people scored on the hazard ratios? Are you providing us with another stellar example of intellectual sloth, or are you intentionally misrepresenting the facts? Re-read the abstract and try responding to the actual facts presented. Is this another example of you allegedly kicking my butt? LOL! Gee, sounds like syphilis, doesn't it? LV Lady Veteran - ----------------------------------- "I rode a tank and held a general's rank when the blitzkrieg raged and the bodies stank..." - -Rolling Stones, Sympathy for the Devil - ------------------------------------------------ People who hide behind anonymous remailers and ridicule fat people are cowardly idiots with no motive but malice. - --------------------------------------------- "Be who you are and say what you feel because those who mind don't matter and those who matter don't mind." - --Unknown - ------------------------------- -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: PGP 8.0 - not licensed for commercial use: www.pgp.com iQA/AwUBQbphT8jazA1WMM1JEQIszACgjULOirKibqqcZJTsfgqqio 3xm7AAnR1E Ff4R4+uwy2Zp0RsdRT1Q29MG =aV3Z -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- All that crap in your posts overwhelmes whatever you are saying. end pgp..signature? whats up with that stuff? Jim It matches her ass Jim. -- -Larry |
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Jim wrote:
All that crap in your posts overwhelmes whatever you are saying. end pgp..signature? whats up with that stuff? Jim Agreed.....it was totally nonsensical. Tom |
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