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  #21  
Old November 3rd, 2003, 08:50 PM
ElfHunter
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"Brandon Berg" wrote in message news:w%npb.67410$mZ5.428783@attbi_s54...
"ElfHunter" wrote in message
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MJL wrote in message

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Personally I like my fats fully stacked with hydrogen. If you're
going to oxidize you might as well do it right.


Hmm, I hope you are joking. It is my understanding that trans fats
may be a cause for heart diseases.


Trans fats aren't fully stacked with hydrogen. That'd be saturated fat.


Maybe so, but read the subject of the discussion. It is on trans
fats. I will take saturated fats over trans fats any day.
  #22  
Old November 3rd, 2003, 09:03 PM
ElfHunter
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wrote in message ...
I see your point. I eat lots of apples but they have no protein.

Regarding being "all natural", so are nightshade mushrooms and snake
venom and lots of other things that can hurt you.

The appeal to "all natural" is the biggest bunch of bunk in the modern
era.

While I agree with you that the term "all natural" is often a
marketing ploy, there are so many examples that show that processed
food is bad your you. Example,

1. Refined flour gets digested too quickly.
2. Sugar is bad for your teeth.
3. Trans Fats may cause cardiovascular diseases.

Some of these examples are only known recently. So, a prudent
strategy would be to be very cautious about processed food. It is all
about risk management. I am placing my bets on foods that have not
undergone major industrial processes.

Sy





In article , Pier-14
wrote:

Ask yourself a better question. Is this bar the best thing that I can put
into my body? Answer probably not. It may be better than a snickers but is
it the best thing you can consume. Eat to live don't live to eat and more
important don't work to support your junk food bar company. That is what
this bar is, junk food in a different wrapper. Eat an Apple, it's cheaper
and all natural guaranteed.
wrote in message
...

I love NITRO-TECH bars because of their taste and protein content.

I am trying to figure out whether they contain any significant amounts
of "trans-fat".

Any comments will be appreciated.

Thanks,

Sy

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  #23  
Old November 4th, 2003, 02:51 AM
JC Der Koenig
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"Dr. Andrew. B. Chung, MD/PhD" wrote in message
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JC Der Koenig wrote:

"Daniel Witt" wrote in message
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what does the label say?

The label doesn't say anything, you actually have to read it.


In spite of your constant denigration of me, my flaccid advice and
supercilious "debate" style, I see you have a fine sense of humor. I
slapped each of my knees repeatedly while reading your clever quip and
for several moments thereafter.

Nevertheless, you have my pity.

(Insert gratuitously smarmy tag line here.)

--
Dr. Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD
Bare-Chested CardTrickologist
http://www.heartmdphd.com


Interesting.


  #24  
Old November 4th, 2003, 06:42 AM
August Pamplona
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"ElfHunter" wrote in message
om...
wrote in message

...
I see your point. I eat lots of apples but they have no protein.

Regarding being "all natural", so are nightshade mushrooms and snake
venom and lots of other things that can hurt you.

The appeal to "all natural" is the biggest bunch of bunk in the

modern
era.

While I agree with you that the term "all natural" is often a
marketing ploy, there are so many examples that show that processed
food is bad your you. Example,

1. Refined flour gets digested too quickly.
2. Sugar is bad for your teeth.
3. Trans Fats may cause cardiovascular diseases.

Some of these examples are only known recently. So, a prudent
strategy would be to be very cautious about processed food. It is all
about risk management. I am placing my bets on foods that have not
undergone major industrial processes.

Sy


OTOH, sometimes foods are improved to varying degrees by some level
of processing (and indeed some "foods" are inedible or even toxic in
their natural state). If you don't believe me, try eating an olive
straight from the tree.

August Pamplona
--
The waterfall in Java is not wet.
- omegazero2003 on m.f.w.

a.a. # 1811 apatriot #20 Eater of smut
To email replace 'necatoramericanusancylostomaduodenale' with
'cosmicaug'






In article , Pier-14
wrote:

Ask yourself a better question. Is this bar the best thing that I

can put
into my body? Answer probably not. It may be better than a

snickers but is
it the best thing you can consume. Eat to live don't live to eat

and more
important don't work to support your junk food bar company. That

is what
this bar is, junk food in a different wrapper. Eat an Apple, it's

cheaper
and all natural guaranteed.
wrote in message
...

I love NITRO-TECH bars because of their taste and protein

content.

I am trying to figure out whether they contain any significant

amounts
of "trans-fat".

Any comments will be appreciated.

Thanks,

Sy




  #25  
Old November 4th, 2003, 06:47 AM
Brandon Berg
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"ElfHunter" wrote in message
om...
"Brandon Berg" wrote in message

news:w%npb.67410$mZ5.428783@attbi_s54...
"ElfHunter" wrote in message
om...
MJL wrote in message

. ..
Personally I like my fats fully stacked with hydrogen. If you're
going to oxidize you might as well do it right.

Hmm, I hope you are joking. It is my understanding that trans fats
may be a cause for heart diseases.


Trans fats aren't fully stacked with hydrogen. That'd be saturated fat.


Maybe so, but read the subject of the discussion. It is on trans
fats. I will take saturated fats over trans fats any day.


Which means that you like your fats fully stacked with hydrogen.


  #26  
Old November 4th, 2003, 10:50 PM
ElfHunter
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"Brandon Berg" wrote in message news:g4Hpb.99880$HS4.845672@attbi_s01...
"ElfHunter" wrote in message
om...
"Brandon Berg" wrote in message

news:w%npb.67410$mZ5.428783@attbi_s54...
"ElfHunter" wrote in message
om...
MJL wrote in message

. ..
Personally I like my fats fully stacked with hydrogen. If you're
going to oxidize you might as well do it right.

Hmm, I hope you are joking. It is my understanding that trans fats
may be a cause for heart diseases.

Trans fats aren't fully stacked with hydrogen. That'd be saturated fat.


Maybe so, but read the subject of the discussion. It is on trans
fats. I will take saturated fats over trans fats any day.


Which means that you like your fats fully stacked with hydrogen.


Damn, why do people who can't read insist on using newsgroups? The
fact that I prefer saturated fats over trans fats does not mean I take
a lot of saturated fats, nor do I like or dislike saturated fats per
se. It means that I don't sweat over a buttered toast, but I won't
eat margarine. Got that yet? If you still don't understand this, I
suggest English lessons. If you want to take trans fats, go ahead.
You are doomed by the forces of natural selection anyway.
  #27  
Old November 4th, 2003, 11:01 PM
ElfHunter
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"August Pamplona" wrote in message link.net...
"ElfHunter" wrote in message
om...
wrote in message

...
I see your point. I eat lots of apples but they have no protein.

Regarding being "all natural", so are nightshade mushrooms and snake
venom and lots of other things that can hurt you.

The appeal to "all natural" is the biggest bunch of bunk in the

modern
era.

While I agree with you that the term "all natural" is often a
marketing ploy, there are so many examples that show that processed
food is bad your you. Example,

1. Refined flour gets digested too quickly.
2. Sugar is bad for your teeth.
3. Trans Fats may cause cardiovascular diseases.

Some of these examples are only known recently. So, a prudent
strategy would be to be very cautious about processed food. It is all
about risk management. I am placing my bets on foods that have not
undergone major industrial processes.

Sy


OTOH, sometimes foods are improved to varying degrees by some level
of processing (and indeed some "foods" are inedible or even toxic in
their natural state). If you don't believe me, try eating an olive
straight from the tree.

August Pamplona


Point well taken. I will also try not to lick any colorful toad I
come across. I will not invest in junk bonds and I promise not to run
any red lights. Also, I won't take any of those high tech fats
substitutes either. It is simple risk management. I don't do things
that I believe have an elevated chance of hurting me. Some people
bungle jump, I don't. People have different levels risk tolerance.
George Burns lived over 100 smoking cigars and he seemed reasonably
happy, but that does not mean I am going to start smoking.

My attitude towards highly processed food is similar to strangers
hanging outside my door late at night. I tend to be cautious about
them.

--
The waterfall in Java is not wet.
- omegazero2003 on m.f.w.

a.a. # 1811 apatriot #20 Eater of smut
To email replace 'necatoramericanusancylostomaduodenale' with
'cosmicaug'






In article , Pier-14
wrote:

Ask yourself a better question. Is this bar the best thing that I

can put
into my body? Answer probably not. It may be better than a

snickers but is
it the best thing you can consume. Eat to live don't live to eat

and more
important don't work to support your junk food bar company. That

is what
this bar is, junk food in a different wrapper. Eat an Apple, it's

cheaper
and all natural guaranteed.
wrote in message
...

I love NITRO-TECH bars because of their taste and protein

content.

I am trying to figure out whether they contain any significant

amounts
of "trans-fat".

Any comments will be appreciated.

Thanks,

Sy

  #28  
Old November 5th, 2003, 12:12 AM
Proton Soup
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Default Do NITRO-TECH bars contain "trans-fat"

On 4 Nov 2003 14:01:21 -0800, (ElfHunter)
wrote:

"August Pamplona" wrote in message link.net...
"ElfHunter" wrote in message
om...
wrote in message

...
I see your point. I eat lots of apples but they have no protein.

Regarding being "all natural", so are nightshade mushrooms and snake
venom and lots of other things that can hurt you.

The appeal to "all natural" is the biggest bunch of bunk in the

modern
era.

While I agree with you that the term "all natural" is often a
marketing ploy, there are so many examples that show that processed
food is bad your you. Example,

1. Refined flour gets digested too quickly.
2. Sugar is bad for your teeth.
3. Trans Fats may cause cardiovascular diseases.

Some of these examples are only known recently. So, a prudent
strategy would be to be very cautious about processed food. It is all
about risk management. I am placing my bets on foods that have not
undergone major industrial processes.

Sy


OTOH, sometimes foods are improved to varying degrees by some level
of processing (and indeed some "foods" are inedible or even toxic in
their natural state). If you don't believe me, try eating an olive
straight from the tree.

August Pamplona


Point well taken. I will also try not to lick any colorful toad I
come across. I will not invest in junk bonds and I promise not to run
any red lights. Also, I won't take any of those high tech fats
substitutes either. It is simple risk management. I don't do things
that I believe have an elevated chance of hurting me. Some people
bungle jump, I don't. People have different levels risk tolerance.
George Burns lived over 100 smoking cigars and he seemed reasonably
happy, but that does not mean I am going to start smoking.

My attitude towards highly processed food is similar to strangers
hanging outside my door late at night. I tend to be cautious about
them.


Acorns were a staple of the Native American diet, but they have to be
processed, as well. Water soaking is needed to leach out the tannins
before grinding into flour.

Proton Soup
  #29  
Old November 5th, 2003, 01:33 AM
August Pamplona
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"Proton Soup" wrote in message
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On 4 Nov 2003 14:01:21 -0800, (ElfHunter)
wrote:

"August Pamplona"

wrote in message
link.net...
"ElfHunter" wrote in message
om...
wrote in message
...
I see your point. I eat lots of apples but they have no

protein.

Regarding being "all natural", so are nightshade mushrooms and

snake
venom and lots of other things that can hurt you.

The appeal to "all natural" is the biggest bunch of bunk in the
modern
era.

While I agree with you that the term "all natural" is often a
marketing ploy, there are so many examples that show that

processed
food is bad your you. Example,

1. Refined flour gets digested too quickly.
2. Sugar is bad for your teeth.
3. Trans Fats may cause cardiovascular diseases.

Some of these examples are only known recently. So, a prudent
strategy would be to be very cautious about processed food. It

is all
about risk management. I am placing my bets on foods that have

not
undergone major industrial processes.

Sy

OTOH, sometimes foods are improved to varying degrees by some

level
of processing (and indeed some "foods" are inedible or even toxic

in
their natural state). If you don't believe me, try eating an olive
straight from the tree.

August Pamplona


Point well taken. I will also try not to lick any colorful toad I
come across. I will not invest in junk bonds and I promise not to

run
any red lights. Also, I won't take any of those high tech fats
substitutes either. It is simple risk management. I don't do things
that I believe have an elevated chance of hurting me. Some people
bungle jump, I don't. People have different levels risk tolerance.
George Burns lived over 100 smoking cigars and he seemed reasonably
happy, but that does not mean I am going to start smoking.

My attitude towards highly processed food is similar to strangers
hanging outside my door late at night. I tend to be cautious about
them.


Acorns were a staple of the Native American diet, but they have to be
processed, as well. Water soaking is needed to leach out the tannins
before grinding into flour.

Proton Soup


The same sort of thing is true, believe it or not, of somehing as
mundane as maize. Corn meal is more nutricious when alkali processed.
Native Americans knew to treat corn meal in this way. Others didn't. The
result was a deficiency of niacin (known as pellagra) among poor folk
who subsisted mainly on maize.

And, by the way, I agree with the person I was responding to. I was
just pointing out that taken to its logical extreme it doesn't really
work either (those who really do take it to that absurd extreme are raw
food cultists).

August Pamplona
--
The waterfall in Java is not wet.
- omegazero2003 on m.f.w.

a.a. # 1811 apatriot #20 Eater of smut
To email replace 'necatoramericanusancylostomaduodenale' with
'cosmicaug'


  #30  
Old November 5th, 2003, 03:17 AM
Proton Soup
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On Wed, 05 Nov 2003 00:33:55 GMT, "August Pamplona"
wrote:

The same sort of thing is true, believe it or not, of somehing as
mundane as maize. Corn meal is more nutricious when alkali processed.
Native Americans knew to treat corn meal in this way. Others didn't. The
result was a deficiency of niacin (known as pellagra) among poor folk
who subsisted mainly on maize.


Just curious, what is the primitive way to alkali process corn? I
knew about pellagra, but didn't realize there was a way to avoid it
other than to limit the amount of corn in the diet.

Proton Soup

 




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