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Corporate Responsiblity for ObesityDave Head?
This is O T but I'm wondering where you are from. I mean a general idea.
Several Years ago I 'worked' with a person with ths name glo , who lives in Upsate N Y USA |
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On Sat, 11 Mar 2006 09:28:30 -0500, Carol Frilegh wrote:
In article , Dave Head wrote: On Sat, 11 Mar 2006 06:52:36 +0100, Mxsmanic wrote: Dave Head writes: Its real hard to do where snacks are usually eaten... A lot of things are hard to do. That doesn't relieve you of responsibility for doing them. Nope, but the corporations have a responsibility to human health See or read "The Corporation" Corporations responsibility is to shareholders: http://www.thecorporation.com/ IDo expect the CEO to come to your place and fit you with a gag? If you want to change your shape change your POV as it's full of rationalization. Placing blame does not displace hand to mouth activity. Diva **** needing to hang tough herself these days This isn't about me. Its about the usual corporate disregard for the common good in order to make more money. How is it different from Love Canal? Corporations do the profitable thing, while people get sick and die. Why should we have to _fight_ the corporations in order to do the right thing? The right thing should be _easy_ to do... and so should finding a 1 3/4 oz or 2 1/2 oz bags of peanuts. Dave Head |
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On Sat, 11 Mar 2006 15:40:14 +0100, Mxsmanic wrote:
Dave Head writes: Nope, but the corporations have a responsibility to human health the same way the car companies do when they install air bags and make crush zones in the cars. They're supposed to _help_ us be safe, rather than tempting us not to be. You're supposed to accept responsibility for your own life and stop blaming Someone Else. This isn't about me. This is about the usual corporate behavior of seeking the bottom line without regard for the well-being of the population. Didn't say I couldn't do it, I said it is difficult. Why shouldn't the corporations _help_ the situation instead of hinder it? Why can't you handle the situation on your own? It isn't about me. Its about corporations creating an environment where it is harder to do the right thing. RM doesn't sell peanuts, I think. Nobody makes you eat peanuts. ? Sure. What else do you throw 1/3 of away after paying for all of it? Anything that's more than I can or should eat. Sounds wasteful. Don't you know that wasting food is a sin? Think of all those poor, starving kids in Africa... That's just wrong. And overeating is right? What weight problem? At 220 with the amount of muscle I have, I don't really have a "problem". Either you have a tremendous amount of muscle, or you are overweight (unless you are very tall indeed). Its just not a problem, and yeah, I do have an above-average amount of muscle. I've only been doing the weight training for 1 1/2 years - check back in about 3 more years... I should be up to 250, and _all_ muscle... I could be thinner... but not by much. I'm closer to "athlete" than fat right now. Why isn't that the fault of corporations as well? Or are they only to blame for bad things? They didn't help me, they made it more difficult. The corporation that did help was my health club... |
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Dave Head wrote:
Nope, but the corporations have a responsibility to human health the same way the car companies do when they install air bags and make crush zones in the cars. They're supposed to _help_ us be safe, rather than tempting us not to be. You are the classic Whiny Fat **** In Denial. Take responsibility for your own actions. |
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On Sat, 11 Mar 2006 09:30:06 -0500, Carol Frilegh wrote:
In article , Dave Head wrote: On Sat, 11 Mar 2006 06:48:40 +0100, Mxsmanic wrote: Dave Head writes: Soooo... corporate culpability is a real thing, as far as I'm concerned, in the constant fight to eat reasonably. Until you take responsibility for your own obesity, I am _definitely_ not obese... you'll remain fat. I could lose 20... Nobody forces you to buy any particular brand or order any particular food. If ur hungry, and they only make available more than you want or need, you either starve or buy it. However, I _did_ have time to get to the 3rd store and find a bag of peanuts that was _right sized_. Supermarkets make salads and other healthy foods available like fruits and vegetables. Peanuts are healthy, more available (we don't have 24 hr food stores here, just gas stations...) and taste a whale of a lot better. To get what you need rather than what you want, point your Nikes or Addidas in a differnt direction and stop whining please. This isn't about me, its about corporate disregard for the health of the popluation simply to increase their bottom line. I don't have a problem with offering large portions. What I have a problem with is _not_ offering small portions. Give people a break - make it easy to do the right thing. Dave Head |
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Dave Head wrote:
On Sat, 11 Mar 2006 05:06:01 GMT, (The Queen of Cans and Jars) wrote: Dave Head wrote: Nuts. Peanuts, cashews, almonds. Look at the snack sizes for these. I recently went to 3 different stores before finding a simple 2 1/2 oz bag of peanuts (they're supposed to be good for U, right?) that, at 160 calories and ounce, is still 400 calories. What were my other choices? Wawa's own-brand packaged peanuts at 6 ounces a bag. 6 ounces! 960 calories!!!! You aren't obligated to eat an entire container of anything all at one sitting. How hard is it to measure out a serving and just eat that? Its real hard to do where snacks are usually eaten... the car. I eat 'em at the desk at work too, but at least these, except for 1, are about the right size out of the candy machine... So, basically you're too stupid to figure out how not eat poorly? Ok. I totally see where you're coming from. Soooo... corporate culpability is a real thing, as far as I'm concerned, in the constant fight to eat reasonably. The only person responsible for the food that ends up in your mouth is you. Well, that may be true for the peanuts... It's true for everything. |
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On Sat, 11 Mar 2006 15:44:16 +0100, Mxsmanic wrote:
Dave Head writes: I am _definitely_ not obese... You just said that you weigh 220. How tall are you? I'm 6'. Overweight (for the time being) is about as far as you can get with that, not "obese". And no, the charts aren't adjusted for people that spend 4 - 5 nights a week at the gym - they all assume you have an _average_ amount of muscle, which is not me. I work like a dog at that. Weight rarely comes down. What happens is that the fat is melting off. It gets replaced by muscle. Last week I went from 222 to 220, but only after an unusually intense week of lifting and riding the cross-training machine. But I went up 20 lbs on the pecs machine, and 20 on the triceps machine. Think that extra muscle weighs nothing? It doesn't. Meanwhile, the stomach has largely disappeared, and I actually get compliments for keeping my weight off since my last (disasterous) diet 2 years ago... Dieting is not the way. If ur hungry, and they only make available more than you want or need, you either starve or buy it. You also have the option of buying it and eating only part of it. Wasting food is a sin. Just get corporate America to make smaller everything, so if you really want 1400 calories of burger, you buy 6 of 'em. (McDonald's plain hamburgers are 250 calories - I often eat 'em in place of other things with even more calories.) And... this isn't about me... its about Corporations making money at the expense of the health of the people. Dave Head |
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Dave Head wrote:
Wasting food is a sin. But you're ok with abject stupidity? |
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On Sat, 11 Mar 2006 14:21:38 GMT, "Beverly" wrote:
"Dave Head" wrote in message news On Sat, 11 Mar 2006 00:52:01 -0600, Annie Benson Lennaman wrote: They would if their consumer base wanted/demanded it. In fact, they have. Those little 100 calorie pack snacks that have become more and more common didn't come about because they look cute. Tell me about the 100 calorie packs. What food is that? What corporation? I haven't run onto that, but haven't looked closely, either. That would be Nabisco. http://www.nabiscoworld.com/100caloriepacks/ Hey, thanks - and I love all those foods, too. The best I had for a "kill the hunger" snack has been the cheese cracker with peanut butter packs that are 200 calories. I'll look for these at the store. I really like seeing the wheat thins offered like that - I never buy regular boxes because they are sooooo tempting - that's too much to have lying around. Dave Head |
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