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Old August 19th, 2008, 04:09 PM posted to alt.support.diet.low-carb
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Default Any non-egg/Bacon Breakfast ideas?

Low carb refers to the nutritional content, not to the form of the food.

jcderkoenig wrote:
| Is that why you're still obese?
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| Why bother with low carb if you still want to eat muffins?
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Old August 19th, 2008, 04:18 PM posted to alt.support.diet.low-carb
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"Comcast news" bob@inspectionsbybobdotcom wrote:

I really miss my bagle, toast or cerial...

Any idea for those cravings?


My unpopular but useful advice about being new to low carb
and missing your old foods -

Starve a craving. When an old habit is fighting for its life by
causing you to get bored with your new food, starve that bad
old habit. The way out is through.

Bagels, toast and cereal aren't low carb. Stay with the eggs
and eventually they become your new comfort food.

Even the high-fiber cerials still have 12-14 carbs left when you back out
the sugar alcohols and fiber.. and that is for a TINY serving..

My favorite comfort-food cerial..Wheaterna, which I thought was MOSTLY
fiber... is WAY high in carbs..


When your daily quota is 50 then it will be time to address that
question. Consider the Atkins pattern of carb quotas by week -
20, 20, 25, 30, 35, 40, 45, 50 and so on until you drop out of
ketosis to find your CCLL. So the soonest it can happen on
Atkins is week 8. Consider the Protein Power pattern of carb
quotas by week - The 50 level is phase 2 IIRC so that's sooner.

A serving of oatmeal for a net 20 is more than a half cup of
oats before the water is added and that's a sizable portion. It
also gets you much of the way to a quota of 50 so it becomes
easy to get the rest of the quota with low carb veggies.

I am Soooo tierd of anything resemblin eggs for breakfast...


Exactly point point above - Evil old habits fight for their lives
by making you bored with your new foods. Shouldn't you have
become bored with endless days of identical breakfasts of
low variety high carb products? The reason you didn't is
they become addictive. Be happy that eggs don't become
addictive. But understand the exact mechanism involved
here - It's a craving or addictive behavior pattern or evil old
habit fighting for its life trying to make you eat the wrong
thing. The longer you continue to eat the right thing the
weaker that craving will become.
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Old August 19th, 2008, 04:31 PM posted to alt.support.diet.low-carb
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"FOB" wrote in message
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Low carb refers to the nutritional content, not to the form of the food.

jcderkoenig wrote:
| Is that why you're still obese?
|
| Why bother with low carb if you still want to eat muffins?



I don't think it's good to always prefer sweet tasting things such as
muffins, Law carb bars, low carb ice cream, ect.

It just keeps old habits alive!


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Old August 19th, 2008, 04:43 PM posted to alt.support.diet.low-carb
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Nina wrote:

While I'm totally with Doug on the idea that it's far better to learn
to live without high carb things than to substitute lower-carb "faux"
substitutes, the problem with eggs is just that they're, well, eggs.
And there's a lot of things you can do with eggs, but they're still
eggs. *If you like variety it just gets boring. *(Personally, I can
eat the same stupid breakfast until I die, but my husband is a variety
guy.)


For me this is a morning-person versus afternoon-person
issue. As an afternoon-person any effort I put into variety
in the morning is wasted on my oblivious slow waking.
But by lunch when I'm wide awake and on the go that's
time for variety for me. As a morning-person my wife
does well with variety at breakfast. Different person,
different appropriate reaction. Me, being bored in the
morning may as well be a goal not an obstacle.

My three suggestions are...

1. Not egg at all... you can get some bran crispbread from Netrition
that is very high fiber and thus 1 net carb. *We have that with cream
cheese and smoked salmon. *This what we liked to put on bagels in the
bagel days, so it's a really nice change.


Depending on the plan grains may come in later weeks.
I'm big on following the directions of the plan. So if your
plan has this go for it. On Atkins use the "carb ladder"
to count which week whole grains can be used and that
gives you the earliest this would be an option. I suggest
Wasa Fiber Rye over Netrition but my bias is I'm wheat
intolerant so I can digest the Wasa much more easily.

2. *Leftovers. *I like cold chicken. *


In fact anything you can have for dinner on your plan you
can have for breakfast. A serving of meat and some
sauteed veggies works fine and it isn't even left overs.

3. *Eggs but different. *Make a quiche, put lots of ham and cheese in
it (no crust), and it's nice breakfast for a couple of days.


Weekend fare for me but great for a morning person.
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Old August 19th, 2008, 09:10 PM posted to alt.support.diet.low-carb
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You're probably right but some people want to do it. And diabetics may not
need to lose weight but do need to limit carbs. I'm not forcing anyone to
eat these, but for someone who wants a low carb, easy to grab and eat in the
morning, item that has low carbs and lots of fiber (which is something that
a lot of LCers have a problem getting), they may help.

DB wrote:
|
| I don't think it's good to always prefer sweet tasting things such as
| muffins, Law carb bars, low carb ice cream, ect.
|
| It just keeps old habits alive!


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Old August 19th, 2008, 09:13 PM posted to alt.support.diet.low-carb
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???? Be happy that eggs don't become addictive? If eggs are the best thing
to eat for breakfast you should be delighted if they are addictive. Nothing
is so easy as to feed an addiction.

Doug Freyburger wrote:
Be happy that eggs don't become
| addictive. But understand the exact mechanism involved
| here - It's a craving or addictive behavior pattern or evil old
| habit fighting for its life trying to make you eat the wrong
| thing. The longer you continue to eat the right thing the
| weaker that craving will become.


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Old August 19th, 2008, 09:45 PM posted to alt.support.diet.low-carb
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"FOB" wrote:

???? *Be happy that eggs don't become addictive? *If eggs are the best thing
to eat for breakfast you should be delighted if they are addictive. *Nothing
is so easy as to feed an addiction.


Addictive foods tend to be intolerance foods and binge trigger
foods. There are folks who are allergic to eggs who have
severe reactions, but there are also folks who are mildly
intolerant of eggs who have so mild they are just a normal
backgroup for them.

Nutritional value of a food gets overwhelmed when it's a binge
trigger. Feeding an addiction is a bad idea even when the
object of the addiction is nutritious.

I'm wheat intolerant with a mild reaction that originally formed
a backgroupd of normal. When I went on Atkins on 1999-06-21
I didn't realize it but I hadn't had a wheat-free day in years.
Suddenly by the end of Induction I'd gone through detox and
symptom after symptom dissappeared. Chronic indigestion,
snoring, cough that seems to have been slight but consistant
acid reflux, you name it.

If I'd posted on a low fat group that stresses eating whole grains,
someone would likely respond "Be happy that wheat does not
become addictive? ..." and so on in the same pattern. Eggs are
beneficial for most but not all low carbers. Wheat is benefical
for most but not all low fatters.
 




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