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Visceral Fat And Insulin Resistance Not Obesity Increases Risk of Diabetes
http://www.diabetesincontrol.com/ind...id=1&Itemid=17 * There were no associations between prediabetes or diabetes incidence with general markers of obesity, such as body mass index (BMI) or total body fat * Having excess visceral fat and insulin resistance, but not being obese in and of itself, puts heavier patients at risk for prediabetes and diabetes, researchers found. Visceral fat = "wheat belly" -- Dogman "I have approximate answers and possible beliefs in different degrees of certainty about different things, but I'm not absolutely sure of anything" - Richard Feynman |
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Visceral Fat And Insulin Resistance Not Obesity Increases Risk of Diabetes
On Sep 22, 2:52*pm, Dogman wrote:
http://www.diabetesincontrol.com/ind...ontent&view=ar.... * There were no associations between prediabetes or diabetes incidence with general markers of obesity, such as body mass index (BMI) or total body fat * Having excess visceral fat and insulin resistance, but not being obese in and of itself, puts heavier patients at risk for prediabetes and diabetes, researchers found. Visceral fat = "wheat belly" -- I would love to see the studies that show that visceral fat is specific to wheat, as opposed to other causes, including refined carbs from sources other than wheat. As for insulin resistance being correlated with pre-diabetes and diabetes, wow, this is news? |
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Visceral Fat And Insulin Resistance Not Obesity Increases Risk of Diabetes
On Sun, 23 Sep 2012 08:12:15 -0700 (PDT), "
wrote: On Sep 22, 2:52*pm, Dogman wrote: http://www.diabetesincontrol.com/ind...ontent&view=ar... * There were no associations between prediabetes or diabetes incidence with general markers of obesity, such as body mass index (BMI) or total body fat * Having excess visceral fat and insulin resistance, but not being obese in and of itself, puts heavier patients at risk for prediabetes and diabetes, researchers found. Visceral fat = "wheat belly" I would love to see the studies that show that visceral fat is specific to wheat, as opposed to other causes, including refined carbs from sources other than wheat. Read the book. Or keep eating all those pancakes, etc. I couldn't care less. As for insulin resistance being correlated with pre-diabetes and diabetes, wow, this is news? It's a reminder for interested parties. Take your complaints to And whatever you do, don't test your BG levels until after your doctor tells you that you already have diabetes. And never, ever check your cholesterol, and what effect wheat has on LDL particle size and number. That way, you'll eventually (if you survive that long) get to take even more drugs, and we know how you love your drugs, EH? Moron. Nota bene: How you ever ended up on a low-carb newsgroup is still a mystery to me. Wouldn't you feel more at home over at alt.support.diet.rx or alt.drugs? -- Dogman "I have approximate answers and possible beliefs in different degrees of certainty about different things, but I'm not absolutely sure of anything" - Richard Feynman |
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Visceral Fat And Insulin Resistance Not Obesity Increases Risk of Diabetes
On Sep 23, 12:56*pm, Dogman wrote:
On Sun, 23 Sep 2012 08:12:15 -0700 (PDT), " wrote: On Sep 22, 2:52 pm, Dogman wrote: http://www.diabetesincontrol.com/ind...ontent&view=ar... * There were no associations between prediabetes or diabetes incidence with general markers of obesity, such as body mass index (BMI) or total body fat * Having excess visceral fat and insulin resistance, but not being obese in and of itself, puts heavier patients at risk for prediabetes and diabetes, researchers found. Visceral fat = "wheat belly" I would love to see the studies that show that visceral fat is specific to wheat, as opposed to other causes, including refined carbs from sources other than wheat. Read the book. As usual, you have no studies. |
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Visceral Fat And Insulin Resistance Not Obesity Increases Risk of Diabetes
On Mon, 24 Sep 2012 12:07:03 -0700 (PDT), "
wrote: [...] Visceral fat = "wheat belly" I would love to see the studies that show that visceral fat is specific to wheat, as opposed to other causes, including refined carbs from sources other than wheat. Read the book. As usual, you have no studies. As usual, you expect others to do the work for you. Note: Visceral fat isn't *specific* to wheat (those are your words, not mine), but wheat causes visceral fat (the worst kind). Two slices of bread will raise your blood sugars more than a Snickers candy bar, a can of Coke, etc. Why anyone who purports to be on a low-carb diet would ever eat a Snickers candy bar, drink a can of Coke, or eat two slices of bread, escapes me. You claim that you eat/ate low-carb "just to lose a few pounds" (hopefully, you've lost them by now and can go someplace else?) but most people eat low-carb to lose more than just a few pounds, to avoid or cure diabetes, to avoid or cure metabolic syndrome, to get off of medicines, to improve their overall health markers, etc, so my posts aren't aimed at you. They're aimed at them. You're just an ignorant, ankle-biting asshole -- and a TROLL. So... ......................./´¯/) .....................,/¯../ ..................../..../ ............../´¯/'...'/´¯¯`·¸ .........../'/.../..../......./¨¯\ .........('(...´...´.... ¯~/'...') ..........\.................'...../ ...........''...\.......... _.·´ .............\..............( ...............\.............\... -- Dogman "I have approximate answers and possible beliefs in different degrees of certainty about different things, but I'm not absolutely sure of anything" - Richard Feynman |
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Visceral Fat And Insulin Resistance Not Obesity Increases Risk of Diabetes
On Sep 24, 3:52*pm, Dogman wrote:
On Mon, 24 Sep 2012 12:07:03 -0700 (PDT), " wrote: [...] Visceral fat = "wheat belly" I would love to see the studies that show that visceral fat is specific to wheat, as opposed to other causes, including refined carbs from sources other than wheat. Read the book. As usual, you have no studies. As usual, you expect others to do the work for you. Note: Visceral fat isn't *specific* to wheat (those are your words, not mine), Must have been someone else sitting at your keyboard that typed this: "Visceral fat = "wheat belly" And when I questioned if there was a study that showed visceral fat was specific to wheat as opposed to say refined carbs in general, must have been someone else sitting at your keyboard that replied that I should read the Wheat Belly book. but wheat causes visceral fat (the worst kind). Two slices of bread will raise your blood sugars more than a Snickers candy bar, a can of Coke, etc. Let's look at the facts: http://www.mendosa.com/gilists.htm I'm not a fan on Dr Mendosa, but he has a good list of the glycemic load of various foods. On it we find: Wonder Bread 30g GL 10 Snickers 60g GL 15 to 23 Coke 250ml GL 16 Those are per the serving size listed and they seem reasonable to me. So, it's hard for me to get my shorts up in a knot that wheat is somehow uniquely bad and worse than drinking coke or eating a snickers bar. Even if you double the bread serving, it's still in the GL range of the snickers bar. And IMO, it's a lot easier to swill down several cokes than it is to eat six slices of bread. Why anyone who purports to be on a low-carb diet would ever eat a Snickers candy bar, drink a can of Coke, or eat two slices of bread, escapes me. Maybe because once in a while they feel like it and they aren't an extremist. I'm not saying everyone should do it, but if it works for some, it doesn't bother me. You claim that you eat/ate low-carb "just to lose a few pounds" I never said any such thing. (hopefully, you've lost them by now and can go someplace else?) I've been here a lot longer than you. but most people eat low-carb to lose more than just a few pounds, to avoid or cure diabetes, to avoid or cure metabolic syndrome, to get off of medicines, to improve their overall health markers, etc, so my posts aren't aimed at you. They're aimed at them. You're just an ignorant, ankle-biting asshole -- and a TROLL. And you're the poster who claims: HIV isn't the cause of AIDS HIV is harmless Diet and lack of sleep cause AIDS No virus can cause cancer HPV isn't a cause of cervical cancer. Folks can evaluate the quality of your scientific knowledge and then decide who's the ignorant one. |
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