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Old October 8th, 2003, 12:16 AM
Susan Jones-Anderson
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Ok this is going to sound really shallow.. but I am curious to what
others think.

Which is less physically attractive? Stretch marks or skin/flab? Also,
if I had a tummy tuck when all weightloss is said and done, could they
do anything about the stretchmarks? Because I honestly don't think I
will ever get rid of the flab totally, even as much as I exercise. Maybe
I wont need a tuck?

Susan
260/219/160

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Old October 8th, 2003, 12:27 AM
JayJay
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Personally - I have to say that the less attractive feature would be skin
flab. my reasoning - purely because my legs are covered in stretch marks,
but other than my belly pouch and (IMO) fat thighs, I don't have skin flab.
So, I have to say stretch marks are more attractive - otherwise I'd be SOL.


If you find a cure for stretch marks, please let me know. That is one thing
that I'd love to get rid of. And I haven't heard of any truely successful
treatment for them. The creams and whatnots really don't help. Maybe
retin-A will help a little bit, but that's prescription strength from a
dermatologist, not the OTC variety. And I'm not sure how much it really
would help. Stretch marks appear to be spots where the skin has lost its
elasticity. And even with losing weight they appear diminished because
they aren't stretched out, but they are still there.


"Susan Jones-Anderson" wrote in message
...
Ok this is going to sound really shallow.. but I am curious to what
others think.

Which is less physically attractive? Stretch marks or skin/flab? Also,
if I had a tummy tuck when all weightloss is said and done, could they
do anything about the stretchmarks? Because I honestly don't think I
will ever get rid of the flab totally, even as much as I exercise. Maybe
I wont need a tuck?

Susan
260/219/160

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4weeks 1days 13:15hours of being smoke-free, 1,187 cigs not smoked,
$219.60 saved, 4day 2:55hours of my life saved







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Old October 8th, 2003, 01:01 AM
Julianne
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Uh, so far you have saved 219.60 with your cigarettes and not smoking for a
period of time makes you a better candidate for surgery. In six months, you
might very well have saved enough for surgery or at least a big dent!

Shallow? Yes. You've already met one huge goal with the smoking. You are
working your way to another really huge goal. When you reach it, if you
want to spend a little time indulging yourself, well? Everything you have
done thus far had been through very hard effort and everyone in your
immediate family will reap the benefits. If you want to spend the time and
money to be selfish and indulge a whim, go for it. You deserve it.

My personal opinion is that you would be the same person with or without
flab but if and only if, it would make you feel really good about yourself,
it is worth your time and money.

The amount of flab that never goes away is largely dependent on the person.
Give it time. Eat well. Emphasize foods rich in Vitamin C for collagen
production and E for scarring and zinc for overall healing. Stretch marks
do eventually get to where they are far less obvious on most people.

I remember an aerobics instructor who was thin and very well built. One day
I crossed her path as she was coming out of the shower. In my life, I have
never seen uglier breasts. (I'm a nurse. I've seen lots of naked folks!)
They were small but sagged to her waist with stretch marks that looked like
a road map. Other than that, she was absolutely beautiful. A year or so
later, she had them lifted, tucked, etc. against her husband's wishes. He
loved her the way that she was and didn't want her to undergo the risk of
surgery for what he thought wasn't important. She, on the other hand, made
her living being very conscious of her body and they bothered her.

Since she did it for her and was well aware of the risks and benefits, I
can't begin to criticize her decision.

j
"Susan Jones-Anderson" wrote in message
...
Ok this is going to sound really shallow.. but I am curious to what
others think.

Which is less physically attractive? Stretch marks or skin/flab? Also,
if I had a tummy tuck when all weightloss is said and done, could they
do anything about the stretchmarks? Because I honestly don't think I
will ever get rid of the flab totally, even as much as I exercise. Maybe
I wont need a tuck?

Susan
260/219/160

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4weeks 1days 13:15hours of being smoke-free, 1,187 cigs not smoked,
$219.60 saved, 4day 2:55hours of my life saved







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Old October 8th, 2003, 05:04 AM
myrrha
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Which is less physically attractive? Stretch marks or skin/flab? Also,
if I had a tummy tuck when all weightloss is said and done, could they
do anything about the stretchmarks? Because I honestly don't think I
will ever get rid of the flab totally, even as much as I exercise. Maybe
I wont need a tuck?


I personally find skin flab to be less attractive than stretch marks,
stretch marks can be hidden to a small extent with tanning, or some creams
(the effectiveness can be debated) One thing people might look into is a
burn centre. Where I am (Ontario Canada) there is a clinic/hospital that
specializes in burn victims, and if you meet their criteria, they will
basically do a tummy tuck (or what ever else you want to tuck) covered by
health care (I know Canada is different from the states in terms of cost)
and they use the skin they remove for skin grafts on burn victims. Just
something to look into if it is available in your area.

Is it vain, yes, but so what? We all do something that is vain now and
then, if it makes you feel better then go for it, how you feel about
yourself in my mind is more important than what anyone else thinks of you.

myrrha



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Old October 8th, 2003, 07:22 AM
Owen Lowe
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In article RtIgb.22819$k74.21235@lakeread05,
"Julianne" wrote:

A year or so
later, she had them lifted, tucked, etc. against her husband's wishes. He
loved her the way that she was and didn't want her to undergo the risk of
surgery for what he thought wasn't important.


That's what they all say.
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Old October 8th, 2003, 03:26 PM
Beeswing
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x-no-archive: no

Jayjay wrote:


I think of "flab" as being lose hanging skin or skin w/ a little
residual fat still left inside, but left hanging. Fat, on the other
hand, fills the skin to a good degree.


Yippee! I'm flabby!

*sob*

bees
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Old October 8th, 2003, 03:27 PM
Kelly
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I have a friend who is using Mederma for stretch marks and is having great
results. It's also not very expensive ($30.00 per 50g. tube)


"JayJay" wrote in message
...
Personally - I have to say that the less attractive feature would be skin
flab. my reasoning - purely because my legs are covered in stretch

marks,
but other than my belly pouch and (IMO) fat thighs, I don't have skin

flab.
So, I have to say stretch marks are more attractive - otherwise I'd be

SOL.


If you find a cure for stretch marks, please let me know. That is one

thing
that I'd love to get rid of. And I haven't heard of any truely successful
treatment for them. The creams and whatnots really don't help. Maybe
retin-A will help a little bit, but that's prescription strength from a
dermatologist, not the OTC variety. And I'm not sure how much it really
would help. Stretch marks appear to be spots where the skin has lost its
elasticity. And even with losing weight they appear diminished because
they aren't stretched out, but they are still there.


"Susan Jones-Anderson" wrote in message
...
Ok this is going to sound really shallow.. but I am curious to what
others think.

Which is less physically attractive? Stretch marks or skin/flab? Also,
if I had a tummy tuck when all weightloss is said and done, could they
do anything about the stretchmarks? Because I honestly don't think I
will ever get rid of the flab totally, even as much as I exercise. Maybe
I wont need a tuck?

Susan
260/219/160

---
4weeks 1days 13:15hours of being smoke-free, 1,187 cigs not smoked,
$219.60 saved, 4day 2:55hours of my life saved









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Old October 8th, 2003, 03:39 PM
A Ross
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In article , "Susan Jones-Anderson"
wrote:

Ok this is going to sound really shallow.. but I am curious to what
others think.

Which is less physically attractive? Stretch marks or skin/flab? Also,
if I had a tummy tuck when all weightloss is said and done, could they
do anything about the stretchmarks? Because I honestly don't think I
will ever get rid of the flab totally, even as much as I exercise. Maybe
I wont need a tuck?

Susan
260/219/160



Well, I have both--that stubborn flap of tummy flab that refuses to
shrink with the rest of me, and it's covered with spidery-white stretch
marks from two kids and too many potato chips.

I know I'll never have surgery, so I'll have to find alternative methods
of reduction. I added pilates to my exercise routine to see if it helps
re-shape me--or at least teaches me to suck it in and not slouch. And
someone on this group mentioned that moisturizing really helps to reduce
the lines and keep the skin supple...we'll see.

Amy (sucking in...)
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Old October 8th, 2003, 04:41 PM
determined
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"Susan Jones-Anderson" wrote in message
...
Ok this is going to sound really shallow.. but I am curious to what
others think.

Which is less physically attractive? Stretch marks or skin/flab? Also,
if I had a tummy tuck when all weightloss is said and done, could they
do anything about the stretchmarks? Because I honestly don't think I
will ever get rid of the flab totally, even as much as I exercise. Maybe
I wont need a tuck?


A tummy tuck will get rid of all the skin below the belly button - and all
the stretch marks there too. I've already looked into it... I think flab
is less attractive. When I achieve 18% bodyfat, and have maintained there
for a few months, I will reconsider a tummy tuck.

det


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Old October 8th, 2003, 04:51 PM
Jayjay
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On Wed, 8 Oct 2003 08:41:35 -0700, "determined"
wrote:


"Susan Jones-Anderson" wrote in message
...
Ok this is going to sound really shallow.. but I am curious to what
others think.

Which is less physically attractive? Stretch marks or skin/flab? Also,
if I had a tummy tuck when all weightloss is said and done, could they
do anything about the stretchmarks? Because I honestly don't think I
will ever get rid of the flab totally, even as much as I exercise. Maybe
I wont need a tuck?


A tummy tuck will get rid of all the skin below the belly button - and all
the stretch marks there too. I've already looked into it... I think flab
is less attractive. When I achieve 18% bodyfat, and have maintained there
for a few months, I will reconsider a tummy tuck.

det


Just remember - in lue of the excess skin, tummy tucks leave one hell
of a scar across the abdomin. If you are hoping to be a bikini wearer
- then you might want to consider other alternatives.
 




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