Close to goal jitters

On Sat, 22 May 2004 03:27:27 GMT, Luna
wrote:

I have to assume you're kidding. Eating less and exercising more will help
get rid of flabby fat, sure, but I don't see how it will do anything for my
boobs. Tits aren't muscle, there's no way to exercise them. They used to
be sacks of skin filled with fat, now they're sacks of skin filled with
less fat, but all that skin is still there so they just look like deflated
balloons.

Yep.

My stomach and inner thighs have that same deflated balloon
appearance. Maybe you mean I could build up those muscles some and fill
those sacks back up with muscle, and have bulging thighs and a bulging
stomach, but bulging with muscle instead of fat? I can't do that with my
breasts though, there's no muscles in there.

Yep.
http://antwrp.gsfc.nasa.gov/apod/ap960222.html
Lift well, Eat less, Walk fast, Live long.

In article ,
Mosaic M_uns wrote:

On Fri, 21 May 2004 22:53:45 GMT, Luna
wrote:

I think she's too much of a girlie girl to wrap her mind around that
notion,
Queen.


Nah, I do plan to "graduate" to free weights eventually, or at least add
them to my machine circuit. At present, I feel like I'm getting a really
good workout on the machines though, and I like the "no brainer" aspect of
it. I think when I do reach my goal weight, I will get instruction on free
weights.

Why at goal weight?

Why not now?

Email me.
http://antwrp.gsfc.nasa.gov/apod/ap960222.html
Lift well, Eat less, Walk fast, Live long.

I just thought it was a good milestone. To tell you the truth I'm not
_sure_ I need to switch from machines to free weights. Those machines go
up to quite a bit of weight, more than I'll ever be able to lift. They
tell me if I'm going too fast, the computer system remembers how much and
how many reps I did the last time, and where to set the seat and other
positions. With a circuit of 10 different machines I work my whole body
and I get that "good ache" afterwards. I'm lifting more than I was when I
started, so I'm making some kind of progress, though I still can't lift
very much. I just don't know, especially at this point, how much more
benefit I would get from dumbells. I mean, what difference does it make to
your body if the plates are hooked up to a machine or balanced on the end
of a dumbell? You're still lifting, right? And if machines are somehow
easier than dumbells, well, you can add more weight until they're just as
hard. Tell me what I'm missing out on, and I'll decide if it's worth it to
switch. Other than the fact that it's fun to learn new things, which
right now is the reason I was planning to learn how to use the free
weights.

--
Michelle Levin
http://www.mindspring.com/~lunachick

I have only 3 flaws. My first flaw is thinking that I only have 3 flaws.

Luna wrote:
:: In article ,
:: Mosaic M_uns wrote:
::
::: On Fri, 21 May 2004 22:53:45 GMT, Luna
::: wrote:
:::
::::: I think she's too much of a girlie girl to wrap her mind around
::::: that notion,
::::: Queen.
:::::
::::
:::: Nah, I do plan to "graduate" to free weights eventually, or at
:::: least add them to my machine circuit. At present, I feel like I'm
:::: getting a really good workout on the machines though, and I like
:::: the "no brainer" aspect of it. I think when I do reach my goal
:::: weight, I will get instruction on free weights.
:::
::: Why at goal weight?
:::
::: Why not now?
:::
::: Email me.
::: http://antwrp.gsfc.nasa.gov/apod/ap960222.html
::: Lift well, Eat less, Walk fast, Live long.
::
:: I just thought it was a good milestone. To tell you the truth I'm
:: not _sure_ I need to switch from machines to free weights. Those
:: machines go
:: up to quite a bit of weight, more than I'll ever be able to lift.
:: They
:: tell me if I'm going too fast, the computer system remembers how
:: much and
:: how many reps I did the last time, and where to set the seat and
:: other positions. With a circuit of 10 different machines I work my
:: whole body
:: and I get that "good ache" afterwards. I'm lifting more than I was
:: when I started, so I'm making some kind of progress, though I still
:: can't lift
:: very much. I just don't know, especially at this point, how much
:: more benefit I would get from dumbells. I mean, what difference
:: does it make to your body if the plates are hooked up to a machine
:: or balanced on the end
:: of a dumbell? You're still lifting, right? And if machines are
:: somehow easier than dumbells, well, you can add more weight until
:: they're just as hard. Tell me what I'm missing out on, and I'll
:: decide if it's worth it to switch. Other than the fact that it's
:: fun to learn new things, which
:: right now is the reason I was planning to learn how to use the free
:: weights.

On a machine, because you move along a fixed path (typically, and this
applies to some machines more than others), the stablizer muscles don't get
worked. This limits strength development. Also, because you move along a
fixed path, there could be some danger of injury if you just keep increasing
the weight because your body might not really like that path. With free
weight, those problems go away. Of course, then you have to worry about
dropping the weights on you. So there are pros and cons.

Mosaic M_uns wrote:
:: On Fri, 21 May 2004 17:18:34 -0400, "Roger Zoul"
:: wrote:
::
::::: lift heavier. lift more. use dumbbells instead of machines.
:::
::: I think she's too much of a girlie girl to wrap her mind around
::: that notion, Queen.
::
:: I hope you are being sarcastically supportive.

I was, but why do you care as you're not here for support, are you?

Give your body some time. Your skin my tighten up in a year (when my
husband lost 70 lbs in one year, his skin was just hanging off him, but
a
year after his weight loss, that was not a problem anymore).

That's good to hear. I lost 80 pounds in about 9 months. I have some extra
skin around my stomach. I'm wondering if it will ever snap back into
place.
I'm thinking age may have something to do with this, since as you age,
your
skin loses some elasticity. I'm 47. How old is your husband?

He's 32.
However, he did not excersize at ALL when he lost his weight, nor afterwards
(and I hear that helps with the skin thing).


--
Spring
LC since 1/1/04
260/215/170

I just thought it was a good milestone. To tell you the truth I'm not
_sure_ I need to switch from machines to free weights. Those machines go
up to quite a bit of weight, more than I'll ever be able to lift. They
tell me if I'm going too fast, the computer system remembers how much and
how many reps I did the last time, and where to set the seat and other
positions. With a circuit of 10 different machines I work my whole body
and I get that "good ache" afterwards. I'm lifting more than I was when I
started, so I'm making some kind of progress, though I still can't lift
very much. I just don't know, especially at this point, how much more
benefit I would get from dumbells. I mean, what difference does it make
to
your body if the plates are hooked up to a machine or balanced on the end
of a dumbell? You're still lifting, right? And if machines are somehow
easier than dumbells, well, you can add more weight until they're just as
hard. Tell me what I'm missing out on, and I'll decide if it's worth it
to
switch. Other than the fact that it's fun to learn new things, which
right now is the reason I was planning to learn how to use the free
weights.

I think the biggest difference with free weights is you end up using more
muscles to do that "same" movement. This is because you end up using
muscles to keep the weight from wobbling around, in addition to the basic
lifting/lowering movements. Because of this, you're actually stronger for
real life movements, because you've developed your muscles in a way they
would actually be used. Also, when you switch from machine to free weights,
you will likely notice the need to lower the amount of weights compared to
doing the same movement from the machine (because your support muscles won't
be used to it yet).

Good luck!


--
Spring
LC since 1/1/04
260/215/170

Luna,

I had been exploring the idea of a little lifting & tucking and here are my
thoughts.

Just keep on working out & eating right for now. You are young and your body
will adjust to being smaller. IMO, little bit of boob-sag is no big deal
because no one bigger than a C should go bra-less anyway (unless you have
implants and don't mind having to go in for touch-up work every couple of
years). The problem with getting a boob-lift is that if you have the kind of
skin that doesn't recover well from weightloss, you might be really unhappy
with the amount of scarring that you will have. If you really want a lift, find
a dr that gives freee consults, get an idea of the cost & predicted outcome and
then plan on a year or so to let your body settle into its size.

As for "goal weights," I am taller than you (5'6") and at 135 I am at 23-24%
BF.

I am about 10 pounds up from my lowest weight because my BF and other male
friends were telling me that I looked too thin, but I didn't really care until
a very blunt and honest friend told me that my face was starting to look older.


I started eating more while still lifting and while I think that I would like
to get my BF back down to 21-22% (or lower) the fact of the matter is I look
better at 23-24%.

You will know when you are at "goal"

Robyn

"Sprgtime" wrote in
news

Give your body some time. Your skin my tighten up in a year (when
my husband lost 70 lbs in one year, his skin was just hanging off
him, but
a
year after his weight loss, that was not a problem anymore).

That's good to hear. I lost 80 pounds in about 9 months. I have some
extra skin around my stomach. I'm wondering if it will ever snap back
into
place.
I'm thinking age may have something to do with this, since as you
age,
your
skin loses some elasticity. I'm 47. How old is your husband?

He's 32.
However, he did not excersize at ALL when he lost his weight, nor
afterwards (and I hear that helps with the skin thing).

I do exercise. I'm currently running 50+ miles per week for marathon
training. That's one big reason for the weight loss. However, this
doesn't seem to help the skin to reshape itself.

Phil M.

--
"I gotta go. You're killin' me."

Luna said,
Maybe you mean I could build up those muscles some and fill
those sacks back up with muscle, and have bulging thighs and a bulging
stomach, but bulging with muscle instead of fat? I can't do that with my

breasts though, there's no muscles in there.


Becky says,

Luna...there is HOPE! check out this website. http://www.brava.com/ My
sister talked with her doctor about this problem (as she has lost about
100 lbs) and this is what he recommended for people who don't want to have
surgery. My sister bought a system off of Ebay and a lady sent her
pictures of before and after she used the system...and didn't need it
anymore--it was pretty good, and no, I won't post them here. It's not
cheap, but somehow gives some of us "hope" as I am one who doesn't have
much "up top" and never have, as my weight tends to be in my hips and
thighs.

Let me add, I love your posts. I look for yours when I get a chance to
read the Google posts.

One reason is because we are about the same place. I started 199 and am
currently 139 (!) with a goal weight of 135. There is a sense of security
in not being at goal yet, I know. I've already decided that I want to
start with 135 how I always weigh and then I want to be 135 in the middle
of the day just as if I were going to the doctor's office...so that will
probably be more like 130 how I weigh (a certain nightgown, first thing in
the morning).

But I am experiencing serious "jitters" at heading to the US in a couple
of days and being tempted by all the "treats" that are available there.
Of course, baking in my kitchen all day presents some serious temptations,
but somehow when I travel, I find the challenges more severe than in my
own kitchen where I have chosen to bake for others but don't participate
myself.

I, too, have almost all the same problems you mentioned. My skin just
hangs, but I'm trying crunches and hoping that it will soon get better.
One area that is different is, that I've had 5 kids..and nursed each one,
so I suppose I have a "reason" for the drooping, but it doesn't help me
feel better. My clothes are all pretty loose now, even the ones I bought
way too small.

I've not noticed much change in me in my last 20 lbs, though. I've been
taking pictures since 160 pretty religiously, and can't really tell much
of a difference in my 160, 152, 147, and 142 pictures. I can see
differences, but not too much..not like the radical difference from 199 to
160.

I have them on a website ready to be posted, but can't figure out how to
get use of the ftp server--keeps telling me password isn't good but I'm
using the password my husband told me, so obviously something else is
wrong. (Sigh). My husband is out of town and gets back Monday, so I can
do it when he gets back and helps me figure out the problem.

Anyway, check out the Brava system...esp. by a successful user, and not a
salesperson. My sister got it and definitely said it is working for her.

Becky P.

Luna wrote:

Tee-hee, you're so cute.

the emphasis should be on the "exercise more" part.

i'm still not at goal weight, but i don't mind the way i look naked and
the reason for that is because i exercise a lot. it makes all the
difference in the world.