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Old August 25th, 2004, 02:47 AM
JMA
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"Ignoramus13955" wrote in message
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http://www.nynewsday.com/news/health...alth-headlines

The subject of this post is an embellishment, but the results so far
are very interesting.

Should we be looking to being fit, lean, and strong couch potatoes?
Would you take a drug that would make you lean, strong and boost your
endurance? I would, if there was no side effects.


Umm sure, if you're lazy and exercise is a chore. No pill is going to
replace things like the sunshine and breezes that make being outdoors
pleasant for some of us, nor will a pill give the feeling of accomplishment
when reaching a new fitness goal (lifting more, running farther or faster,
making that 8 ft. putt, etc.).

Jenn


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Old August 25th, 2004, 04:13 AM
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Ignoramus13955 wrote:

http://www.nynewsday.com/news/health...int.story?coll
=ny-health-headlines

The subject of this post is an embellishment, but the results so far
are very interesting.

Should we be looking to being fit, lean, and strong couch potatoes?
Would you take a drug that would make you lean, strong and boost your
endurance? I would, if there was no side effects.


Well, I tend to believe in the addage that any medicine that is strong
enough to cure is strong enough to hurt. The only things that don't have
the potential to cause side effects are things that don't work at all.

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Old August 25th, 2004, 05:59 AM
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Ignoramus13955 wrote:

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| Genetic tests in the mice suggest that a gene that regulates the brain
| chemical dopamine may be involved in this enhanced ... | ability. Dopamine
is a key chemical that regulates motivation and
| reward, as well as movement.

Dopamine is the same chemical that cocaine boosts (and prevents re-uptake
of) to make the user feel good and lose his appetite. So now they can
genetically engineer a crack high and give us that skinny "crack ho" look
without having to smoke it? Cool!
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Old August 25th, 2004, 09:41 AM
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"Luna" wrote in message
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Well, I tend to believe in the addage that any medicine that is strong
enough to cure is strong enough to hurt. The only things that don't have
the potential to cause side effects are things that don't work at all.


This also apply to exercise... I wonder how high the medical cost for all
the New Year champions is...
Drugs like that will mostly be beneficial to the food industry. If we are to
maintain a positive economical growth rate, we will eventually have to use
pills like that in order to keep consumming more and more. The men in
Napoleon's infantry used to burn 7k calories a day - if every American
started to eat that much while staying healthy, that would cause a huge
economical boom, of the kind you experienced after WWII.
I wonder who funds these researches...


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Old August 25th, 2004, 09:41 AM
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"Luna" wrote in message
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Well, I tend to believe in the addage that any medicine that is strong
enough to cure is strong enough to hurt. The only things that don't have
the potential to cause side effects are things that don't work at all.


This also apply to exercise... I wonder how high the medical cost for all
the New Year champions is...
Drugs like that will mostly be beneficial to the food industry. If we are to
maintain a positive economical growth rate, we will eventually have to use
pills like that in order to keep consumming more and more. The men in
Napoleon's infantry used to burn 7k calories a day - if every American
started to eat that much while staying healthy, that would cause a huge
economical boom, of the kind you experienced after WWII.
I wonder who funds these researches...


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Old August 25th, 2004, 09:43 AM
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"marengo" wrote in message
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Dopamine is the same chemical that cocaine boosts (and prevents re-uptake
of) to make the user feel good and lose his appetite.


Dopamine metabolism is also involved in schizophrenia (too high) and
parkinson (too low). Now, a nation of schizophrenic couch potato body
builders would be a fun sight to see ... from afar...


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Old August 25th, 2004, 09:43 AM
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"marengo" wrote in message
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Dopamine is the same chemical that cocaine boosts (and prevents re-uptake
of) to make the user feel good and lose his appetite.


Dopamine metabolism is also involved in schizophrenia (too high) and
parkinson (too low). Now, a nation of schizophrenic couch potato body
builders would be a fun sight to see ... from afar...


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Old August 25th, 2004, 12:31 PM
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Ignoramus13955 wrote:
::
http://www.nynewsday.com/news/health...alth-headlines
::
:: The subject of this post is an embellishment, but the results so far
:: are very interesting.
::
:: Should we be looking to being fit, lean, and strong couch potatoes?
:: Would you take a drug that would make you lean, strong and boost your
:: endurance? I would, if there was no side effects.
::
:: ``The animals given the drug experienced the same muscle and
:: metabolic benefits of the genetically-bred mice, including
:: protection against weight gain.''
::

I doubt this drug would make exercise obsolete:

::" Researchers found a correlation between how much the animals had run
:: and the activity in certain parts of the brain. And brain regions
:: involved with motivation and movement registered more activity in the
:: animals that didn't get to run on the seventh day, suggesting that
:: the motivational circuits were craving the next opportunity, Rhodes
:: said. "

"Exercise is naturally rewarding."


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Old August 26th, 2004, 12:38 PM
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This reminds me of an article I read recenlty about a school-aged
child who was far stronger than the rest of the students in his age
group, had greater endurance, and less body-fat. Almost kind of a
"Super-Boy". Apart from his physical advantages, he was no different
mentally or socially for the other kids. He looked and acted like
any other child on the playgroud (albiet a really fit child).

After extensive medical investigation, they found that he had a
genetic mutation (which I think had something to do with protiens).
Most of us have a control mechanism in the body which regulates muscle
growth - a switch that says 'OK, that's enough muscle growth for now'.
This child was either missing that control, or it functioned
differently for him.

His uncle, who worked in construction, was known to be able to hoist
huge, heavy slabs of concrete and perform other amazing strengh tasks.

The researches speculated that this mutation might not be that rare,
but rather more common (found in something like 2-4% of the
population?) and largely goes undetected since it requires some very
elaborate tests to determine, and there are no know ill effect or
symptoms of this mutation.

I wonder if this new research is related? Unfortunately, I can't
remember the medical publication that the article appeared in, or the
doctors involved. The child's identity was kept anonymous.

Should we be looking to being fit, lean, and strong couch potatoes?
Would you take a drug that would make you lean, strong and boost your
endurance? I would, if there was no side effects.


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Old August 26th, 2004, 12:38 PM
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This reminds me of an article I read recenlty about a school-aged
child who was far stronger than the rest of the students in his age
group, had greater endurance, and less body-fat. Almost kind of a
"Super-Boy". Apart from his physical advantages, he was no different
mentally or socially for the other kids. He looked and acted like
any other child on the playgroud (albiet a really fit child).

After extensive medical investigation, they found that he had a
genetic mutation (which I think had something to do with protiens).
Most of us have a control mechanism in the body which regulates muscle
growth - a switch that says 'OK, that's enough muscle growth for now'.
This child was either missing that control, or it functioned
differently for him.

His uncle, who worked in construction, was known to be able to hoist
huge, heavy slabs of concrete and perform other amazing strengh tasks.

The researches speculated that this mutation might not be that rare,
but rather more common (found in something like 2-4% of the
population?) and largely goes undetected since it requires some very
elaborate tests to determine, and there are no know ill effect or
symptoms of this mutation.

I wonder if this new research is related? Unfortunately, I can't
remember the medical publication that the article appeared in, or the
doctors involved. The child's identity was kept anonymous.

Should we be looking to being fit, lean, and strong couch potatoes?
Would you take a drug that would make you lean, strong and boost your
endurance? I would, if there was no side effects.


 




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