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  #81  
Old January 30th, 2005, 05:09 PM
Miss Violette
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told you we were related, Lee
Willow wrote in message
m...
I eat 8 meals or so a day... I would NOT be able to go from my 5 am
breakfast to my 12;30 lunch.. AAAHHHHH

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196.2 / 131.8 / 137 lbs
89 / 59.8 / 62.1 Kg

Personal goal 125 lbs / 56.7 Kg
"judy in fort worth" wrote in message
. ..
I am looking for a good snack to bring to school for a mid-morning

snack.
Here are the requirements: must be high in protein, must not need
refrigeration, remember that I only get 20 points a day so it cannot be

a
high point food. I am going to try string cheese this week and raisins

but
I need something to tide me over between breakfast and lunch. I find

myself
reaching for the Hersey's kisses too often.

judy in fort worth
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  #82  
Old January 30th, 2005, 05:15 PM
Miss Violette
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I think "too much" is an individual thing and we should listen to our bodies
for the answer. Lee
Willow wrote in message
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To much of anything will get you sick... but how do you define too much
proteines ?

Be carefull about those "food warnings" if you listen to all of them you
won't eat anything..

--
Will~

196.2 / 131.8 / 137 lbs
89 / 59.8 / 62.1 Kg

Personal goal 125 lbs / 56.7 Kg
"Anna H." wrote in message
...
In message , Beck
writes

"Lesanne" wrote in message
...
The Thing is different people are Different. Which is no doubt why

she
said High Protein. I cannot eat a snack without some protein

component
to
it without actually stimulating my appetite. Not what I want to do

with
a
snack, make myself more hungry.

Was watching UK Food today and there was a lady on there who said

whenever
you snack on fruit, the natural sugars give you an energy boost making

your
more hungry, so you should eat a form of protein with the fruit like a
handful of nuts which counteracts the sugars and makes you less hungry
afterwards.


OTOH, there's a lot of research coming through now suggesting that too
much protein (particularly animal protein - OK, you got me on the
peanuts) is carcinogenic and can lead to liver disease.

But if it has to be protein, nuts are good (albeit also high fat), also
sunflower seeds, yoghurt and if you have access to a fridge, something
like a ricecake with pastrami or ham on it and/or some LF cream cheese.
--
Anna (in UK)
Start Weight: 174 lbs
Goal Weight: 146 lbs
Current Weight: 165.5 lbs





  #83  
Old January 30th, 2005, 05:18 PM
Miss Violette
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and is the answer to why kidney and liver damage can occur, Lee
Anna H. wrote in message
...
$$ If you eat excess proteins you're body converts them to

carbohydrates
and
stores them as fat.


Nor did I until read the low-carb websites 3 years ago. I often
wondered what happened to excess protein - now I know. And sorry, but
I don't save all the URLS I go to on the net. I'm sure you can find
the info easily if you Google a bit. :-)


Actually, you'll find that what really happens to excess protein is
this, basically:
1. Protein is broken down into its constituent amino acids (the building
blocks of protein).
2. The body uses what it can directly for growth and repair of body
cells.
3. If the wrong sort of amino acid, for that which is required, are
ingested, the liver converts them into more useful amino acids it can
use via a process called transamination.
4. Any amino acids still left over after these two processes are broken
down in a process called deamination, which strips the nitrogenous parts
of the molecule off, producing urea (which is mildly toxic, but not as
toxic as free amino acids flooding your system in vast quantities), uric
acid (the main ingredient in kidney stones) and ammonia (which is deadly
toxic and can mess up your blood chemistry and give you heart attacks).
The rest of the molecule then gets fed into the same system as
carbohydrates and fat and is broken down into energy or taken into the
fat stores.
5. The urea is extracted from the blood by the kidneys and removed from
the body as urine.

So the correct answer to the question "What happens to excess protein?"
is that some of it is broken down to produce energy, but the rest of it
poisons your system and has to be removed by the liver and kidneys. So
it's really not a good idea to have too much.

You are unlikely to read this on most low-carb websites however, as I
would imagine it might be a bit scary for people.

OTOH, being morbidly obese is also dangerous, so for some people it's a
case of weighing up the lesser of two evils.
--
Anna (in UK)
Start Weight: 174 lbs
Goal Weight: 146 lbs
Current Weight: 165.5 lbs



  #84  
Old January 30th, 2005, 05:21 PM
Miss Violette
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google for teenager/kidney failure/Atkins. she died last summer and parents
are suing the Atkins estate because of it, Lee
Nathalie W wrote in message
...

"Wysong *~" P@P wrote in message
...


$$ And yet no one is dying from being *poisoned* by all this exces

protein
as we all know.
and
$$ Why? Where are all the people on low-carb diets being rushed to the
hospital from being *poisoned* by the meats they're eating? Where are

all
those who died from the toxins?


Well here is one. I ended up 3 times in hospital with severe kidney

failure
and was forbidden animal protein, and excess other proteins because I

nearly
died of it.
Anecdotical, but it happens. More than you know. Meanwhile, nearly lost

100
lbs on a healthy WW points diet.

Nathalie





  #85  
Old January 30th, 2005, 05:26 PM
Miss Violette
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I have made a decision I need to share so you guys won't think I am ignoring
your posts. I used my filters the other day, now I find I am letting myself
be drawn back into arguments that are not productive. When a post is seen
by a person I have filtered I am going to mark the entire thread as read. I
am telling you this so you won't think I am being rude. I hope those of you
with excellent information will see fit to share it elsewhere in other
threads at another time, Lee
Anna H. wrote in message
...
Actually, "poisoning" by too much animal protein is exactly what
thousands of people in the Western world, possibly millions, ostensibly
are. Most of us eat far too much, and far too little fruit and veg with
it. (I've had kidney problems myself)


## If by poisoned you mean *OBESE* than yes, I agree with you.


No, I mean liver disease, kidney stones and cancers.

Wysong, you can on on and on about how great a low-carb lifestyle is,


## Where did I claim it was a "great lifestyle?" I said it WORKS for

almost
everyone who tried it.


Except you, evidently. Otherwise you've be slim and wouldn't be
bothering us on the WW NG.

but the fact is you're still overweight and you admit yourself that the
weight-loss stalled after a few months.


## And you keep forgetting that on WW I was losing less than a lb a

month
at the time. How come you never mention that, and the fact I dumped 46

lbs
in 5 months on low-carb? And that' with the same thyroid problem!


But you're still overweight, aren't you? So come back and tell us how
great low-carbing is when you've lost the rest. "It stopped working"
isn't really a great advert - kind of hoisted by your own petard,
actually.

P.S. You're not an Eskimo.
--
Anna (in UK)
Start Weight: 174 lbs
Goal Weight: 146 lbs
Current Weight: 165.5 lbs



  #86  
Old January 30th, 2005, 05:43 PM
Laura
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That's understandable.

What I am doing is just not responding to the person filtered so that I can
enjoy the thread. If I see the thread is getting out of hand THEN I just
mark the thread read and move on.

"Miss Violette" wrote in message
...
I have made a decision I need to share so you guys won't think I am

ignoring
your posts. I used my filters the other day, now I find I am letting

myself
be drawn back into arguments that are not productive. When a post is seen
by a person I have filtered I am going to mark the entire thread as read.

I
am telling you this so you won't think I am being rude. I hope those of

you
with excellent information will see fit to share it elsewhere in other
threads at another time, Lee
Anna H. wrote in message
...
Actually, "poisoning" by too much animal protein is exactly what
thousands of people in the Western world, possibly millions,

ostensibly
are. Most of us eat far too much, and far too little fruit and veg

with
it. (I've had kidney problems myself)

## If by poisoned you mean *OBESE* than yes, I agree with you.


No, I mean liver disease, kidney stones and cancers.

Wysong, you can on on and on about how great a low-carb lifestyle is,

## Where did I claim it was a "great lifestyle?" I said it WORKS for

almost
everyone who tried it.


Except you, evidently. Otherwise you've be slim and wouldn't be
bothering us on the WW NG.

but the fact is you're still overweight and you admit yourself that

the
weight-loss stalled after a few months.

## And you keep forgetting that on WW I was losing less than a lb a

month
at the time. How come you never mention that, and the fact I dumped 46

lbs
in 5 months on low-carb? And that' with the same thyroid problem!


But you're still overweight, aren't you? So come back and tell us how
great low-carbing is when you've lost the rest. "It stopped working"
isn't really a great advert - kind of hoisted by your own petard,
actually.

P.S. You're not an Eskimo.
--
Anna (in UK)
Start Weight: 174 lbs
Goal Weight: 146 lbs
Current Weight: 165.5 lbs




  #87  
Old January 30th, 2005, 05:43 PM
Laura
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That's understandable.

What I am doing is just not responding to the person filtered so that I can
enjoy the thread. If I see the thread is getting out of hand THEN I just
mark the thread read and move on.

"Miss Violette" wrote in message
...
I have made a decision I need to share so you guys won't think I am

ignoring
your posts. I used my filters the other day, now I find I am letting

myself
be drawn back into arguments that are not productive. When a post is seen
by a person I have filtered I am going to mark the entire thread as read.

I
am telling you this so you won't think I am being rude. I hope those of

you
with excellent information will see fit to share it elsewhere in other
threads at another time, Lee
Anna H. wrote in message
...
Actually, "poisoning" by too much animal protein is exactly what
thousands of people in the Western world, possibly millions,

ostensibly
are. Most of us eat far too much, and far too little fruit and veg

with
it. (I've had kidney problems myself)

## If by poisoned you mean *OBESE* than yes, I agree with you.


No, I mean liver disease, kidney stones and cancers.

Wysong, you can on on and on about how great a low-carb lifestyle is,

## Where did I claim it was a "great lifestyle?" I said it WORKS for

almost
everyone who tried it.


Except you, evidently. Otherwise you've be slim and wouldn't be
bothering us on the WW NG.

but the fact is you're still overweight and you admit yourself that

the
weight-loss stalled after a few months.

## And you keep forgetting that on WW I was losing less than a lb a

month
at the time. How come you never mention that, and the fact I dumped 46

lbs
in 5 months on low-carb? And that' with the same thyroid problem!


But you're still overweight, aren't you? So come back and tell us how
great low-carbing is when you've lost the rest. "It stopped working"
isn't really a great advert - kind of hoisted by your own petard,
actually.

P.S. You're not an Eskimo.
--
Anna (in UK)
Start Weight: 174 lbs
Goal Weight: 146 lbs
Current Weight: 165.5 lbs




  #88  
Old February 4th, 2005, 07:08 AM
Willow
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That is the word of wisdom there !

--
Will~

196.2 / 131.8 / 137 lbs
89 / 59.8 / 62.1 Kg

Personal goal 125 lbs / 56.7 Kg
"Miss Violette" wrote in message
...
I think "too much" is an individual thing and we should listen to our

bodies
for the answer. Lee
Willow wrote in message
m...
To much of anything will get you sick... but how do you define too much
proteines ?

Be carefull about those "food warnings" if you listen to all of them you
won't eat anything..

--
Will~

196.2 / 131.8 / 137 lbs
89 / 59.8 / 62.1 Kg

Personal goal 125 lbs / 56.7 Kg
"Anna H." wrote in message
...
In message , Beck
writes

"Lesanne" wrote in message
...
The Thing is different people are Different. Which is no doubt why

she
said High Protein. I cannot eat a snack without some protein

component
to
it without actually stimulating my appetite. Not what I want to do

with
a
snack, make myself more hungry.

Was watching UK Food today and there was a lady on there who said

whenever
you snack on fruit, the natural sugars give you an energy boost

making
your
more hungry, so you should eat a form of protein with the fruit like

a
handful of nuts which counteracts the sugars and makes you less

hungry
afterwards.


OTOH, there's a lot of research coming through now suggesting that too
much protein (particularly animal protein - OK, you got me on the
peanuts) is carcinogenic and can lead to liver disease.

But if it has to be protein, nuts are good (albeit also high fat),

also
sunflower seeds, yoghurt and if you have access to a fridge, something
like a ricecake with pastrami or ham on it and/or some LF cream

cheese.
--
Anna (in UK)
Start Weight: 174 lbs
Goal Weight: 146 lbs
Current Weight: 165.5 lbs








 




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